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Are teaching assistants allowed to take a class??

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Found 3rd Mar 2009
My son's class teacher was off sick today and the TA took the class (reception), there was also another TA, a one on one teacher (for a paricular pupil) and me (parent helper - I didn't see this as a problem but when I mentioned it to a mum she said they aren't allowed to do that! Anyone know if that is the case? I'm just curious
Thanks x

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of course teaching assistans can take the class!!!

Depends on the policy of the school and what level the TA is.Quite often the TA knows the children well and school routine and can be a lot less disrupting than having a supply teacher.The TA also is often more up to date with the plans the teacher wishes to carry out.

Level 2 NVQ trained TAs are not allowed to take the class (although I had to on more than one occasion)
Level 3's and above are....
Also see above statement :thumbsup:

A TA can only take the class from a legal point of view in a state school if they have QTS, as far as I know. That policy may be viewed in a more relaxed manner by certain schools, however, and doesn't apply to private schools.

Just re-read your post and see that you say there was a teacher present-even though that was 1:1 think legally the class is covered whatever the level of TA.

You do not have to have QTS to cover a class as level 3's frequently cover PPA time and also HLTAS cover.(Higher level teaching Assistants)

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DangerGod;4544735

of course teaching assistans can take the class!!!



Y 'Of course' ??!! :?

kt21;4544741

Depends on the policy of the school and what level the TA is.Quite often … Depends on the policy of the school and what level the TA is.Quite often the TA knows the children well and school routine and can be a lot less disrupting than having a supply teacher.The TA also is often more up to date with the plans the teacher wishes to carry out.



chryssie;4544758

Level 2 NVQ trained TAs are not allowed to take the class (although I had … Level 2 NVQ trained TAs are not allowed to take the class (although I had to on more than one occasion)Level 3's and above are....Also see above statement :thumbsup:



Muhammadoli;4544762

A TA can only take the class from a legal point of view in a state school … A TA can only take the class from a legal point of view in a state school if they have QTS, as far as I know. That policy may be viewed in a more relaxed manner by certain schools, however, and doesn't apply to private schools.



Thanks guys, thought it might be something like that, help appreciated:thumbsup:

What would the other option be?
Everyone sit around while they try and find a replacement at short notice?

Whether it is "legally" right or wrong I have no idea, but I know what I would prefer it were for one of my daughters. :thumbsup:

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kt21;4544834

Just re-read your post and see that you say there was a teacher … Just re-read your post and see that you say there was a teacher present-even though that was 1:1 think legally the class is covered whatever the level of TA.You do not have to have QTS to cover a class as level 3's frequently cover PPA time and also HLTAS cover.(Higher level teaching Assistants)



Ah yh, not sure she is actually a teacher as such. She could well be a TA of sorts too. I'm pretty sure the other two TA's are at least level 3 though. I thought it wasn't a problem, but wanted to clarify so I can tell the other mum tomorrow:)

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Jumpingphil;4544856

What would the other option be? Everyone sit around while they try and … What would the other option be? Everyone sit around while they try and find a replacement at short notice?Whether it is "legally" right or wrong I have no idea, but I know what I would prefer it were for one of my daughters. :thumbsup:



Well a supply teacher is my best bet:?

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hannah19790;4544842

Y 'Of course' ??!! :?



Cuz they used to take my class lol

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DangerGod;4544934

Cuz they used to take my class lol




Oh, :lol: lol

There is definitely a shortage of Foundation1 and 2 (F2 is the equivalent to Reception) supply staff in our area, so headteacher may have had problems getting cover.The new legislation does state that classes of up to 30 pupils must have a teacher for this year group, but, cover by good TA's is often better for the children if struggling for teachers.
For an unexpected absence for this year group it could be a bit of a grey area but know I would rather my child with staff they knew and routines they were familiar with.

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kt21;4544961

There is definitely a shortage of Foundation1 and 2 (F2 is the equivalent … There is definitely a shortage of Foundation1 and 2 (F2 is the equivalent to Reception) supply staff in our area, so headteacher may have had problems getting cover.The new legislation does state that classes of up to 30 pupils must have a teacher for this year group, but, cover by good TA's is often better for the children if struggling for teachers. For an unexpected absence for this year group it could be a bit of a grey area but know I would rather my child with staff they knew and routines they were familiar with.



Yh I agree 100% and it's not like it's a whole term or anything. I help out regulaly with them and they are very capable and the kids love them so like you say much better for them imo.
Thanks again for the help. Have left rep for those I could but have ran out now. Sorry, will try again 2mro:thumbsup:

hannah19790;4544891

Well a supply teacher is my best bet:?





What I was trying to say is I would rather a TA take the class than have everyone sitting around waiting for a supply teacher to turn up.
I must admit, I don't know how supply teachers work. Do they have them on standby in case someone is off sick, or do they have to wait for a few hours to phone round and find one and then wait for them to make their way to the school.


PS, you have two more additions for your South Easters.

My understanding of the law regarding TAs is that they aren't allowed to teach, because they aren't qualified teachers. They can, however, issue coursework as specified by the real teacher or by higher authorities, and do things with it, like read it aloud and run the students through it. In effect, they're scriptmonkeys.

I don't know whether they're allowed or not, but in an emergency, I'd have no problems with my daughters TA's taking the class. My daughter has 4 in her class and they know as much about her as her actual teacher does. They're really hands on with them all and help out with their reading/writing etc and I've even talked to one of them about a couple of problems my little girl was having because she was just as concerned and eager to settle her in as I was.

I guess the quality of the TA's differ from school to school though, but I certainly wouldn't have any issues with the ones my daughter has taking over for a bit.

kt21;4544834

Just re-read your post and see that you say there was a teacher … Just re-read your post and see that you say there was a teacher present-even though that was 1:1 think legally the class is covered whatever the level of TA.You do not have to have QTS to cover a class as level 3's frequently cover PPA time and also HLTAS cover.(Higher level teaching Assistants)



This is definitely correct - I line manage TAs.

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Thanks for all ur replies peeps - appreciated :thumbsup:

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Jumpingphil;4545095

What I was trying to say is I would rather a TA take the class than have … What I was trying to say is I would rather a TA take the class than have everyone sitting around waiting for a supply teacher to turn up.I must admit, I don't know how supply teachers work. Do they have them on standby in case someone is off sick, or do they have to wait for a few hours to phone round and find one and then wait for them to make their way to the school.PS, you have two more additions for your South Easters.



I'm with u on that, without a doubt but I'd mentioned it to another mum and was concerned that I could have got them in trouble, if it was against the law.

Ooh and thanks, so we're building up then?:w00t:

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dcx_badass;4545776

I've no idea about this but they're not supposed to do it regularly. My … I've no idea about this but they're not supposed to do it regularly. My Auntie used to work at a school and they had her doing reception on her own alot of the time(with no teacher), really regularly, eventually after a few years she quit as she was getting paid loads less than a teacher but doing their job.



Yh I'd be pretty miffed too:x

i know at my sons school the ta takes the class but i dont agree as she is not qualified as ta's do not need to be qualified if working with children above reception age.

In my duties,I had to put on an application form. I listed having the majority of the class year one every afternoon. In my feedback I was told very firmly this would not happen,I did not get an interview nevermind the position. I think her feedback was wrong and I am trying to get in contact with the head of the school as lady who gave feedback worked in the school office,no idea if she got teaching experience. I am qualified to level 3 teaching assistant.

Have you just been dug up from a grave oO

Meanwhile..........5 years later,

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