Are you a PLUMBER or do you know anything about plumbing...?

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Found 8th Nov 2009
Hello.. No deal here im just after some advice.!
After weeks of squeaking hinges and a door that wouldnt close my partner decided to change the hinges on our bathroom door..
He did this then i noticed water dripping thru our kitchen ceiling.. After working out that he must have pierced a pipe.. we decided to investigate..
We removed some tiles in the bathroom to expose the damaged pipe (wasnt so straight forward as the people that fitted our new bathroom had plastered over the pipes)
Once the hole was found we knew we didnt have a clue on how to fix it..
So we have a FlexiPipe not a Copper one with a screw hole in it ..
Is there anybody out there that can advise on the best way to permanantly seal this hole ...
Thanks in advance..

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oh dear..................

did you shout at him much, lol

How the hell did he pierce a pipe changing hinges on a bathroom door? Is it a trap door?

PS Id recommend duct tape































It wont fix your pipe but put enough round your OH he wont be puncturing more pipes.:whistling:

i would cut the pipe by the hole and use a straight pipe connector.

Or cut the pipe and insert this straight? What size of pipe is it?

diy.com/diy…rue

do this ^^^^^^ , if its a plastic pipe then any bonding glue that is waterproof should do it

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PrideandPassion;6821416

Or cut the pipe and insert this straight? What size of pipe is … Or cut the pipe and insert this straight? What size of pipe is it?http://www.diy.com/diy/jsp/bq/nav.jsp?action=detail&fh_secondid=10457535&fh_view_size=10&fh_location=%2f%2fcatalog01%2fen_GB&fh_search=speedfit+stright&fh_eds=%c3%9f&fh_refview=search&ts=1257710053763&isSearch=true



This looks like the perfect thing to use as the repair putty i assume is for copper pipe.. even tho it may work.. this is the cheaper option to try first .. Thank you very much . =)

smallian;6821382

i would cut the pipe by the hole and use a straight pipe connector.



+1

A push fit connection.

http://www.toolstation.com/images/library/stock/webbig/40503.jpg

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wickedteen;6821312

oh dear..................did you shout at him much, lol



Haa No lol it was to funny as he was beating him self up enuff lol...

I am a plumber

However I cannot see how you can put a screw through a pipe changing a door as the screw would have to go through the frame before it hit the pipe and you wouldnt be able to see the damage unless you took the frame out.

You need to drain down the system and bridge the hole, cut the pipe and put a pushfit coupling on. The problem you will have is the fitting is bulky so it will be difficult to cover it as it will be proud of the wall.

You cannot repair a hole, not with glue or anything else, you have to bridge the damaged area with a fitting

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harlzter;6821351

How the hell did he pierce a pipe changing hinges on a bathroom door? Is … How the hell did he pierce a pipe changing hinges on a bathroom door? Is it a trap door?



For some reason the plastic pipe was right next to the wooden door frame so not much room for screws.. Didnt even know there was a pipe there..

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pinkleponkle;6821474

I am a plumberHowever I cannot see how you can put a screw through a pipe … I am a plumberHowever I cannot see how you can put a screw through a pipe changing a door as the screw would have to go through the frame before it hit the pipe and you wouldnt be able to see the damage unless you took the frame out.You need to drain down the system and bridge the hole, cut the pipe and put a pushfit coupling on. The problem you will have is the fitting is bulky so it will be difficult to cover it as it will be proud of the wall.You cannot repair a hole, not with glue or anything else, you have to bridge the damaged area with a fitting



It did go straight thru the frame only just tho.. And the pipe was flush against the frame so it just pierced it..

diy.com/diy…rue

Is the above suitable ..?

yes that's fine

Cut through the pipe at the screw hole and put that on with an insert on each end of the pipe. They are bulky though, gonna be tricky to cover it up.

Is it a heating pipe, or a hot/cold pipe?

Is it 15mm pipe? Do you know what the pipe is for? Heating, cold water, hotwater etc? Is there plenty of room in where the pipe is, ie is it in the cavity between the walls? As the resident plumber says, the coupling is a bit thicker than pipe so you will need a wee bit of room.

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pinkleponkle;6821552

yes that's fineCut through the pipe at the screw hole and put that on … yes that's fineCut through the pipe at the screw hole and put that on with an insert on each end of the pipe. They are bulky though, gonna be tricky to cover it up.Is it a heating pipe, or a hot/cold pipe?



Its a hot water pipe .. There is quite a bit of room in the wall so it shouldnt be a problem...
And its behind the door next to the bath and under a tile..

masterruckus;6821439

do this ^^^^^^ , if its a plastic pipe then any bonding glue that is … do this ^^^^^^ , if its a plastic pipe then any bonding glue that is waterproof should do it



lulz. :-D

Worst advice ever.

thesaint;6821619

lulz. :-DWorst advice ever.



lol the first part of the advice was good. :roll:

should be easy to sort if there's loads of space. Isolate the hot supply, either on the hot water cylinder or the combi boiler (depending on what you have), open the hot tap on the downstairs sink. Buy a coupling and a some inserts (the inserts are very important), cut the pipe through the middle of the hole with a stanley knife ideally as it cuts a cleaner cut than a saw. insert in each end and push into both sides of the coupling.

You going to need to expose more plaster to get the coupling on.

I cant imagine the length of the screws your OH used to rehang the door.........

Hope you get the pipe fixed safely.......... maybe don't let him do it..................lol

steph_reid;6821708

This is the damage ... … This is the damage ... http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp36/steph_reid/PB080203.jpg



Tell him to fill the screw holes with wood. Then re-drill, and use shorter screws.
No way should screws of that length be used.

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We have realised the screws were obviosly to long but we didnt even think about it lol..
What are inserts?
We have already turned the hot water off not such a big deal as its only the kitchen sink that isnt getting any hot water..

pinkleponkle;6822569

http://www.lphs.co.uk/product_info.php?products_id=928

You thought wrong, if the coupling goes onto copper pipe you don't need them. Plastic pipe needs strengthening at the joint .

steph_reid;6821708

This is the damage ... … This is the damage ... http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp36/steph_reid/PB080203.jpg



im not a plumber by any means, i'll stick to repairing cars, but that seems an odd place to run a hot water pipe :thinking:

or was the frame put in at a later date ?

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steph_reid;6821485

For some reason the plastic pipe was right next to the wooden door frame … For some reason the plastic pipe was right next to the wooden door frame so not much room for screws.. Didnt even know there was a pipe there..


Get the fitters back as probably breaks plumbing regs to have done what they did. Threaten trading standards if they refuse.

Seriously, who would put a water pipe behind a door frame!!! :w00t:

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pinkleponkle;6821474

I am a plumberHowever I cannot see how you can put a screw through a pipe … I am a plumberHowever I cannot see how you can put a screw through a pipe changing a door as the screw would have to go through the frame before it hit the pipe and you wouldnt be able to see the damage unless you took the frame out.You need to drain down the system and bridge the hole, cut the pipe and put a pushfit coupling on. The problem you will have is the fitting is bulky so it will be difficult to cover it as it will be proud of the wall.You cannot repair a hole, not with glue or anything else, you have to bridge the damaged area with a fitting


Top advice :thumbsup:

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Thanks everyone for your replies.. All fixed now =)
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