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    Should be a great game today and hopefully Cesc will be fit so that he can outperform Xavi. It's difficult to predict what will happen though, they have so many good players we need to stop! I think we can win though.

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    Supermod

    Fabregas or Xavi? Xavi.

    Hopefully the game delivers how much it promises.

    Fabregas is a good player, but hes not on Xavi's level, maybe one day but not now, tbh I reckon Iniesta is the best player out of the lot of them

    Can't see anything but Barca progressing from this tie. Will be close tonight though.

    oh yeah I'd be very surpised if Arsenal went through to the next round, they have a decent team but not a great team by any means

    Don't think Fabregas will play, I thought Xavi was doubtful too.

    Really hard to call this game without Iniesta and maybe Xavi Arseanl could really beat Barca quite comfortably.

    Could be an Arsenal win, a boring stalemate draw or a Barca demolition, can't make my mind up on this one.

    Thing is I'm an Arsenal fan but I'm not worried if we do loose because it wont be luck or anything, just pure football. And tbh I'm quite confident, I dont think we would have beat man u bayern or inter anyway at this stage. Barca is our best chance and if we do beat them the confidence that the team will have after it will be phenomenal! Might even win the competition

    roryk83;8252390

    Fabregas is a good player, but hes not on Xavi's level, maybe one day but … Fabregas is a good player, but hes not on Xavi's level, maybe one day but not now, tbh I reckon Iniesta is the best player out of the lot of them



    Unfortunately this is true.

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    roryk83;8252390

    Fabregas is a good player, but hes not on Xavi's level, maybe one day but … Fabregas is a good player, but hes not on Xavi's level, maybe one day but not now, tbh I reckon Iniesta is the best player out of the lot of them



    No, I don't agree. Firstly with regards to the Iniesta point even Barca fans have admitted he's been poor this season so I don't know about overall but definitely looking at this season's form Xavi and Cesc have been better. As for Xavi being better than Cesc, he might be but I think that's only down to experience. Tbh I think we have a better chance than many give us credit for but we are playing the world champions so it's understandable if we do get knocked out. Whoever progresses out of this tie though I think will win the Champions League, especially if United do get knocked out by Bayern.

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    greg_68;8252402

    Don't think Fabregas will play, I thought Xavi was doubtful too.Really … Don't think Fabregas will play, I thought Xavi was doubtful too.Really hard to call this game without Iniesta and maybe Xavi Arseanl could really beat Barca quite comfortably.Could be an Arsenal win, a boring stalemate draw or a Barca demolition, can't make my mind up on this one.



    Cesc and Xavi will most likely be playing. Xavi should definitely be playing and Cesc will be assessed before kick-off but hopefully he will be fine, and although he'd be a loss Nasri showed against Porto that he can also play that role very well. And yeah I can't guess what's going to happen either, it's unusual for both teams to come up against a team that plays with a similar style.

    0 - 0. Like the Liverpool v Man C game everyone was going on about before it turned into a dull stalemate.

    Foxy102;8252650

    0 - 0. Like the Liverpool v Man C game everyone was going on about before … 0 - 0. Like the Liverpool v Man C game everyone was going on about before it turned into a dull stalemate.



    This is a different level to two very basic teams having a kick about. :whistling:

    I am quitly confident Arsenal can produce the goods tonight and hold out in Spain. As long as we don't have to face United at any point, I can see us winning the competition.

    Hope Sol doesn't play, he will be run ragged!!

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    mr.potato_head;8252710

    I am quitly confident Arsenal can produce the goods tonight and hold out … I am quitly confident Arsenal can produce the goods tonight and hold out in Spain. As long as we don't have to face United at any point, I can see us winning the competition.Hope Sol doesn't play, he will be run ragged!!



    Gallas should be fit :-D Ibrahimovich has just hit form though, and Messi is always in form so Clichy needs to have a good game and maybe think about staying back rather than joining attacks all the time as usual.

    Fabregas is the better player,just not as consistant as xavi in my opinion. I think as said on paper tonights game should be a cracking goal fest.........so 0-0 it is.

    im a spurs fan Btw but still want arsenal to win, cant bloody stand foriegn teams,cheating diving whingers!!

    P.S. anyone know the odds for a Spurs v Arsenal final next season?:w00t:

    Arsenal Fan;8252611

    No, I don't agree. Firstly with regards to the Iniesta point even Barca … No, I don't agree. Firstly with regards to the Iniesta point even Barca fans have admitted he's been poor this season so I don't know about overall but definitely looking at this season's form Xavi and Cesc have been better. As for Xavi being better than Cesc, he might be but I think that's only down to experience. Tbh I think we have a better chance than many give us credit for but we are playing the world champions so it's understandable if we do get knocked out. Whoever progresses out of this tie though I think will win the Champions League, especially if United do get knocked out by Bayern.



    WHAT?!!? My cousin lives in Barcelona and all the fans have done this year have raved about Messi and Iniesta (espicaly since Ibrahimovic's slump in form). Secondly, even if Iniesta did have a poor season he would still be a better player than Cesc. Come back when Cesc has actually won something, and dont forget Cesc gas had a lot of first team experience for his age, hes been a regular since 16

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    roryk83;8252807

    WHAT?!!? My cousin lives in Barcelona and all the fans have done this … WHAT?!!? My cousin lives in Barcelona and all the fans have done this year have raved about Messi and Iniesta (espicaly since Ibrahimovic's slump in form). Secondly, even if Iniesta did have a poor season he would still be a better player than Cesc. Come back when Cesc has actually won something, and dont forget Cesc gas had a lot of first team experience for his age, hes been a regular since 16



    Lol and what about Iniesta? He's been in Barca's team since he was a teenager. Cesc has more goals and assists this season than both Xavi and Iniesta and his overall play has improved drastically. What Iniesta and Xavi do have over him is experience but I don't think there's that much difference. And Iniesta has been pretty poor, during Ibrahimovich's slump Iniesta didn't do much and everything fell on Messi, lucky for them he was good enough to carry the team. And also what does winning anything have to do with who's a better player? Even pub rubbish like John O'Shea have won more than some of the world's top players, doesn't mean he's a top player.

    Arsenal Fan;8252897

    Lol and what about Iniesta? He's been in Barca's team since he was a … Lol and what about Iniesta? He's been in Barca's team since he was a teenager. Cesc has more goals and assists this season than both Xavi and Iniesta and his overall play has improved drastically. What Iniesta and Xavi do have over him is experience but I don't think there's that much difference. And Iniesta has been pretty poor, during Ibrahimovich's slump Iniesta didn't do much and everything fell on Messi, lucky for them he was good enough to carry the team. And also what does winning anything have to do with who's a better player? Even pub rubbish like John O'Shea have won more than some of the world's top players, doesn't mean he's a top player.



    I wasnt pointing to Iniesta's lack of experience, like u do with cesc. Iniesta has not been in poor form, and if you think Messi carrys the team you dont much about footy, he is allowed to play because of Iniesta and Xavi and the way they play and pass.

    What does winning have anything to do with it? Everything. Iniesta and Xavi are two times Champs League winners, have won the league and spanish cups a good few times, and were the starters (ahead of Cesc) when Spain won the Euros. "Rubbish" players win medals because they do a job in the team, not every player is there to score 30 a season and grab the headlines

    Dont get me wrong Cesc is a good player, but the way arsenal fans make him out to be the best midfeilder in the world is infuriating!

    winnings got nowt to do with it
    Alan Shearer, 1 title, enough said:p

    mr.potato_head;8252678

    This is a different level to two very basic teams having a kick about. … This is a different level to two very basic teams having a kick about. :whistling:



    Ill agree with Liverpool this year without playing like a team, but your sounding like another bitter Arsenal fan.

    I hope you win tonight.

    I'm routing for a british champions league final.

    If you loose though I will await the Wenger blame game.

    roryk83;8252944

    I wasnt pointing to Iniesta's lack of experience, like u do with cesc. … I wasnt pointing to Iniesta's lack of experience, like u do with cesc. Iniesta has not been in poor form, and if you think Messi carrys the team you dont much about footy, he is allowed to play because of Iniesta and Xavi and the way they play and pass.What does winning have anything to do with it? Everything. Iniesta and Xavi are two times Champs League winners, have won the league and spanish cups a good few times, and were the starters (ahead of Cesc) when Spain won the Euros. "Rubbish" players win medals because they do a job in the team, not every player is there to score 30 a season and grab the headlinesDont get me wrong Cesc is a good player, but the way arsenal fans make him out to be the best midfeilder in the world is infuriating!



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    roryk83;8252944

    I wasnt pointing to Iniesta's lack of experience, like u do with cesc. … I wasnt pointing to Iniesta's lack of experience, like u do with cesc. Iniesta has not been in poor form, and if you think Messi carrys the team you dont much about footy, he is allowed to play because of Iniesta and Xavi and the way they play and pass.What does winning have anything to do with it? Everything. Iniesta and Xavi are two times Champs League winners, have won the league and spanish cups a good few times, and were the starters (ahead of Cesc) when Spain won the Euros. "Rubbish" players win medals because they do a job in the team, not every player is there to score 30 a season and grab the headlinesDont get me wrong Cesc is a good player, but the way arsenal fans make him out to be the best midfeilder in the world is infuriating!



    Messi at one point a few weeks ago had scored 9 consecutive goals for Barca in the league, it wasn't until Ibrahimovich's penalty that Messi won that someone else scored. Xavi's been out with injury recently and Iniesta hadn't been playing well, but they are both class players so it's a boost that Iniesta's out.

    And one day Cesc will be the best midfielder in the world, whether that will be while he's at Arsenal or Barcelona I don't know. In fact, I can't think of another midfielder that has played as well as Fabregas throughout this season.

    [COLOR="Red"]There will be a goal.

    (serious)[/COLOR]

    pistol6000;8252760

    im a spurs fan Btw but still want arsenal to win, cant bloody stand … im a spurs fan Btw but still want arsenal to win, cant bloody stand foriegn teams,cheating diving whingers!!:



    I can't get my head around a spurs fan supporting Arsenal

    The same yesterday with a liverpool fan supporting united!!!!!


    Hopefully Barca will destroy wenger and his cry babies

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    hassony;8253050

    I can't get my head around a spurs fan supporting ArsenalThe same … I can't get my head around a spurs fan supporting ArsenalThe same yesterday with a liverpool fan supporting united!!!!!Hopefully Barca will destroy wenger and his cry babies



    Can you just get back to focusing on your huge game against Benfica ffs, they're a bit better than teams like Wigan and Portsmouth who you've lost to this season.

    Adam2050;8253013

    Ill agree with Liverpool this year without playing like a team, but I'm … Ill agree with Liverpool this year without playing like a team, but I'm routing for a british champions league final.^



    Weirdo

    hassony;8253050

    I can't get my head around a spurs fan supporting ArsenalThe same … I can't get my head around a spurs fan supporting ArsenalThe same yesterday with a liverpool fan supporting united!!!!!Hopefully Barca will destroy wenger and his cry babies


    supportings a strong word!!! just dont want barca to win:-D

    hassony;8253073

    Weirdo



    Oi to much hatred in football, domestically, all oposition can go to hell, but European I want to see sucess from british clubs.

    Would rather support Arsenal then United of course.

    Arsenal Fan;8253066

    Can you just get back to focusing on your huge game against Benfica ffs, … Can you just get back to focusing on your huge game against Benfica ffs, they're a bit better than teams like Wigan and Portsmouth who you've lost to this season.




    can you focus on the European Cups in your cabinet? We've beaten the best there is when we put the 5 cups in our trophy

    roryk83;8253096

    can you focus on the European trophies in your cabinet? We've beaten the … can you focus on the European trophies in your cabinet? We've beaten the best there is when we put the 5 cups in our trophy



    yeah, but just wait until wenger's babies reach puberty, they'll really blossom then

    Adam2050;8253088

    [SIZE="2"]Oi to much hatred in football, domestically, all oposition can … [SIZE="2"]Oi to much hatred in football, domestically, all oposition can go to hell, but European I want to see sucess from british clubs.[/SIZE]Would rather support Arsenal then United of course.



    Agree(not the last part though)

    Adam2050;8253088

    Oi to much hatred in football, domestically, all oposition can go to … Oi to much hatred in football, domestically, all oposition can go to hell, but European I want to see sucess from british clubs.Would rather support Arsenal then United of course.



    I'd hate to see united winning their fourth european cup, and I bet they'll hate to see us winning anything as well

    hassony;8253130

    I'd hate to see united winning their fourth european cup, and I bet … I'd hate to see united winning their fourth european cup, and I bet they'll hate to see us winning anything as well



    Part of me would hate them to win, but It's our own fault we ain't winning stuff like United.

    come on u gunnnnnnerrrrsss

    The JFK;8253033

    [COLOR=red]There will be a goal.[/COLOR][COLOR=red](serious)[/COLOR]



    I hope so. Im following your theory!

    should be very interesting! Both teams attack like crazy..just hope they don't cancel each other out...

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    roryk83;8253096

    can you focus on the European Cups in your cabinet? We've beaten the … can you focus on the European Cups in your cabinet? We've beaten the best there is when we put the 5 cups in our trophy



    Yeah, ok this thread isn't to discuss how Liverpool used to be dominant over 20 years ago and how poor they are now in comparison.

    As for tonight im hoping for:

    ------------------Almunia------------------
    Sagna--Gallas--Vermaelen--Clichy
    ------------------Song----------------------
    ------------Cesc-------Diaby-------------
    Nasri-----------------------------Arshavin
    -----------------Bendtner------------------

    You can't even really pinpoint someone that will be key, because everyone will have to play well. In terms of technical ability though, we are just as good as them and both teams look to keep possession so maybe the midfield will be very important, if Song and Diaby can stop Xavi and Keita/Toure and stop the supply to Messi we could do well. We know that last season, definitely away, Chelsea just put 10 men behind the ball and looked to nullify any of Barca's threat but I don't think we'll do that.

    i hope barcelona thump them

    Arsenal Fan;8253526

    Yeah, ok this thread isn't to discuss how Liverpool used to be dominant … Yeah, ok this thread isn't to discuss how Liverpool used to be dominant over 20 years ago and how poor they are now in comparison. As for tonight im hoping for:------------------Almunia------------------Sagna--Gallas--Vermaelen--Clichy------------------Song----------------------------------Cesc-------Diaby-------------Nasri-----------------------------Arshavin-----------------Bendtner------------------You can't even really pinpoint someone that will be key, because everyone will have to play well. In terms of technical ability though, we are just as good as them and both teams look to keep possession so maybe the midfield will be very important, if Song and Diaby can stop Xavi and Keita/Toure and stop the supply to Messi we could do well. We know that last season, definitely away, Chelsea just put 10 men behind the ball and looked to nullify any of Barca's threat but I don't think we'll do that.





    Partially agree with the above line up I would swap eboue for sagna as he's playing much better atm.... and I would start Rosicky over arshavin or bedtner not sure who though as we need a strike and one of them would have to go. Nasri is in fine form so if we dont have fabbers its a big loss but not huge. we do need Diaby, song, verm, and Gallas to be at the top of their games tonight

    Adam2050;8253013

    Ill agree with Liverpool this year without playing like a team, but your … Ill agree with Liverpool this year without playing like a team, but your sounding like another bitter Arsenal fan.



    Was said in jest hence the whistling.

    Nothing to be bitter about...team is exceeding all expectations this season.

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    bfjem;8253606

    Partially agree with the above line up I would swap eboue for sagna as … Partially agree with the above line up I would swap eboue for sagna as he's playing much better atm.... and I would start Rosicky over arshavin or bedtner not sure who though as we need a strike and one of them would have to go. Nasri is in fine form so if we dont have fabbers its a big loss but not huge. we do need Diaby, song, verm, and Gallas to be at the top of their games tonight



    Eboue is better offensively but defensively Sagna is definitely better, which is why Wenger will go with Sagna. Also Bendtner has to play as we need a focal point for the attacks, but Arshavin has looked very off form recently and Rosicky is better at tracking back as well, and it is Messi that plays down that side. However, Arshavin can score a goal out of nothing and even in games where he plays poorly he has the potential to hit 4 goals so Wenger will probably go for him although I wouldn't be shocked if Rosicky did start.

    Arsenal Fan;8253526

    Yeah, ok this thread isn't to discuss how Liverpool used to be dominant … Yeah, ok this thread isn't to discuss how Liverpool used to be dominant over 20 years ago and how poor they are now in comparison.



    Our record in Europe since 2005 is far superior to yours!:) We've actually knocked out Barca a couple of seasons ago and beat them at the Nou Camp in the process

    Liverpool have one bad season and suddenly people think they havnt been contesting for anything in years
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