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    Ashes to Ashes/ Life on Mars Theories/Speculation

    I'm completly confused.

    I've heard speculation about Sam being Gene's so, or Shaz being Gene's daughter and Gene is in a coma.

    Also heard some religious veiws like Gene being God and stuff like that.

    Who is the young copper with half a face?

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    Best quote so far "Are you riding the cotton pony?" genius

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    Took a sentane out as it was false information about the reg plates.

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    ADZ1478;8441744

    Best quote so far "Are you riding the cotton pony?" genius


    oi get back on patrol .. blimin wooden tops :-D

    gene just made a Mr Muscle/clean bathroom comment, surely that wasnt about in them thar days

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    michelleleemoo;8441776

    gene just made a Mr Muscle/clean bathroom comment, surely that wasnt … gene just made a Mr Muscle/clean bathroom comment, surely that wasnt about in them thar days



    Keats also made a comment to Drake about Jeffrey Dhamar, he was caught in 1992. :?

    dog_cop;8441753

    oi get back on patrol .. blimin wooden tops :-D



    nice to see you back :thumbsup:

    pre-pace must have been great!!

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    ADZ1478;8441863

    nice to see you back :thumbsup:pre-pace must have been great!!


    yeah pre pace wish we could go back some and deal with the scum who blight our streets..
    nice to see you again where you been ?

    borolad94;8441826

    Keats also made a comment to Drake about Jeffrey Dhamar, he was caught in … Keats also made a comment to Drake about Jeffrey Dhamar, he was caught in 1992. :?



    oh dear :roll:

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    What doy you guys think about the stuff thats happening? Speculation/Theories.. like OP states?

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    michelleleemoo;8441910

    oh dear :roll:



    huh :?

    borolad94;8441921

    huh :?



    2 mistakes, not good.

    I think the half face copper is chris :? and its a premonition

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    michelleleemoo;8441946

    2 mistakes, not good. I think the copper is chris :? and its a … 2 mistakes, not good. I think the copper is chris :? and its a premonition



    i think Keates is from the future, i dont think they are mistakes...

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    That is GENIUS!!!

    borolad94;8441953

    i think Keates is from the future, i dont think they are mistakes...



    aaah, I like your thinking, clever bogger :-D

    although wouldnt that make gene from the future too re his comment?

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    michelleleemoo;8441984

    aaah, I like your thinking, clever bogger :-Dalthough wouldnt that make … aaah, I like your thinking, clever bogger :-Dalthough wouldnt that make gene from the future too re his comment?



    Hmmmm, who knows???

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    Or maybe not...

    Mr. Muscle is a brand of hard surface cleaners. It has been manufactured by S. C. Johnson & Son, since their purchase of Drackett from Bristol-Myers in 1992. The original product was developed at Drackett in the early 1976

    borolad94;8442031

    Or maybe not...Mr. Muscle is a brand of hard surface cleaners. It has … Or maybe not...Mr. Muscle is a brand of hard surface cleaners. It has been manufactured by S. C. Johnson & Son, since their purchase of Drackett from Bristol-Myers in 1992. The original product was developed at Drackett in the early 1976



    I'm finding the lack of 'contact' and flashbacks (forwards :thinking:) strange, its almost as if its not relevant

    the bloodied copper might be sam tyler

    michelleleemoo;8442242

    the bloodied copper might be sam tyler



    There are rumours that John Simm will be back (somewhere) in Ashes to Ashes.

    I just hope they done go to far down the metaphor and allegory route.

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    Sooooooo, anyone watch? Whatcha think?

    borolad94;8666002

    Sooooooo, anyone watch? Whatcha think?



    It was brilliant. Most of it was guessable, but the denouement was still brilliantly done.

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    borolad94;8666002

    Sooooooo, anyone watch? Whatcha think?



    Loved it; proper loved it
    Can't wait for "Karma Police"

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    no spoilers please as not yet watched it

    hasn't got into the whole "life on mars / ashes to ashes" programme - so i have no input.. but i think that Chuck is God on Supernatural. Does that help anyone?

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    dog_cop;8666308

    no spoilers please as not yet watched it



    Probably not best to click on this thread then....

    thought the whole 80's thing has been quite poor tbh, not a patch on the first series
    - should have left it after Sam's story

    excellent way to end it but it really needed sam tyler.

    I'd much rather have seen how sam figured it all out and I was gutted that dr who can get john sim to shoot lasers out his fingers and eat from bins yet the ashes to ashes crowd couldn't get him back for at least one last scene with gene hunt.

    Don't get me wrong alex drake and everyone else were good but it was still like watching the reserves when compared with tyler.

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    dog_cop;8666308

    no spoilers please as not yet watched it


    lol - speculating without mentioning events is a bit tricky :roll:

    I think Gene Hunt imagined the whole series and once he got killed, woke up again whilst in the shower

    Agreed, I hadn't actually watched this series as I thought it went rapidly downhill once they changed the main character. The mrs has watched it though so I had to watch last nights episode. I must admit it was brilliant the way they explained it all and eneded it instead of leaving it up in the air.

    It would have been great to see John Sim come back as it was good to see the barman return.

    Is it definitely finished as they left it slightly open at the end didn't they?

    good summation of last episode here: (spoilers a plenty, so be warned)
    denofgeek.com/tel…tml

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    ants97;8667376

    excellent way to end it but it really needed sam tyler. I'd much rather … excellent way to end it but it really needed sam tyler. I'd much rather have seen how sam figured it all out and I was gutted that dr who can get john sim to shoot lasers out his fingers and eat from bins yet the ashes to ashes crowd couldn't get him back for at least one last scene with gene hunt. Don't get me wrong alex drake and everyone else were good but it was still like watching the reserves when compared with tyler.



    They didn't want him back, very good article ]here about the final (massive spoilers if you haven't watched it)

    I guessed it could have been Genes dream last week so i was bit right. What got me was what was Keats he was taking them in a lift going downwards was he supposed to be some sort of devil or something that bit got me stumped.

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    colinsunderland;8667483

    They didn't want him back, very good article ]here about the final … They didn't want him back, very good article ]here about the final (massive spoilers if you haven't watched it)



    thanks for that, pretty good insight into what happened.

    Still think it was a mistake not getting him back for at least that final scene, if gene hunt can create that world then there's no reason why sam couldn't either or at least be a part of it.

    I can see ther point about not wanting to steal drakes thunder but lets be honest she's been in the shadow of tyler and hunt since day one and for most she is just pretty much eye candy while wating for hunt to kick someone or hoping tyler reappears.

    I and i'm pretty sure most people would rather have watched sam tyler figure it all out and take his last trip to the pub with gene.

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    Apparently the writers were planning on Sam coming back, and it was going to be Sam greeting them instead of Nelson, but then they thought, how could that happen? Gene had already passed Sam off into 'heaven'. He can't come back now.

    ah well it least they never dumbed down the ending in the same way that the yanks done it with life on mars USA

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    boabbyrab;8669632

    ah well it least they never dumbed down the ending in the same way that … ah well it least they never dumbed down the ending in the same way that the yanks done it with life on mars USA



    eeee that ending was TERRIBLE.

    I'm trying to people who dont watch it who Gene Hunt is and what he does, but when i say it, it makes it sound crap. 'Gene Hunt was shot in 1953 and managed to make his own world in between life and death and his job is to get people into the afterlife (the pub) but during his time he forgot what his job was and thought it was real' .... when you say it like that, it does seem pretty crap.

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    Ashes to Ashes was terrible and that ending sounds pretty rubbish.

    It didn't really need explaining, the mystery in Life on Mars worked well.

    Dumbing it down and turning it into the 'Gene Hunt franchise' was unnecessary.

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    FilthAndFurry;8669783

    Ashes to Ashes was terrible and that ending sounds pretty rubbish.It … Ashes to Ashes was terrible and that ending sounds pretty rubbish.It didn't really need explaining, the mystery in Life on Mars worked well.Dumbing it down and turning it into the 'Gene Hunt franchise' was unnecessary.



    maybe you should watch the final as it was far from rubbish :thumbsup:

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    FilthAndFurry;8669783

    Ashes to Ashes was terrible and that ending sounds pretty rubbish.It … Ashes to Ashes was terrible and that ending sounds pretty rubbish.It didn't really need explaining, the mystery in Life on Mars worked well.Dumbing it down and turning it into the 'Gene Hunt franchise' was unnecessary.



    When the ending is explained by someone, it sounds crap. But watch it and it's great.

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    borolad94;8670483

    When the ending is explained by someone, it sounds crap. But watch it and … When the ending is explained by someone, it sounds crap. But watch it and it's great.



    The show was badly conceived from the start and the basis of the ending (the idea that it needs explaining in such an obvious way) is an extension of that.
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