Avoid pubs and restaurants

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Posted 17th Mar
The existing advice is to avoid pubs and restaurants.

For those of you who go out do you plan to stop going to the pubs, restaurants and cafes?
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No. I am part of a secret team who has been tasked to spread the virus and help build herd immunity. So my plan is to look at whatever is the medical / government advice and do the opposite, after checking the irrelevant opinion of online strangers.
Arto17/03/2020 11:59

I’m due to go to Weatherspoons on Thursday, I’m still going if it’s open. I …I’m due to go to Weatherspoons on Thursday, I’m still going if it’s open. If I’m going to catch the virus then I can’t stop it


But you can, by avoiding places like pubs and restaurants. It's also quite selfish thinking about catching the virus thinking you'll be fine anyway but not the bigger picture that you might transmit it to some poor biddy that can't cope with it.
I work in a place where i am surrounded by hundreds of people. I cant work from home. I cannot afford to stay off work. So if i am ok to be around all these people at work i am ok to go to a restaurant.
I know people say we cant risk passing it on but its the people at risk who should stay away. then everyone should live life as normal. the economy can continue.
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No. I am part of a secret team who has been tasked to spread the virus and help build herd immunity. So my plan is to look at whatever is the medical / government advice and do the opposite, after checking the irrelevant opinion of online strangers.
I love how they're "advising" people to avoid pubs and restaurants - if they actually stopped people,they would risk uproar! Is it safe or advisable to be in close proximity with lots of other people at this moment in time? I really want a beer but I think I can hold off, and if I can, then there's no reason others can't!

Plus, if they were to actually force pubs to close, would the pubs then be able to claim something back for loss of business?
I’m due to go to Weatherspoons on Thursday, I’m still going if it’s open. If I’m going to catch the virus then I can’t stop it
Arto17/03/2020 11:59

I’m due to go to Weatherspoons on Thursday, I’m still going if it’s open. I …I’m due to go to Weatherspoons on Thursday, I’m still going if it’s open. If I’m going to catch the virus then I can’t stop it


But you can, by avoiding places like pubs and restaurants. It's also quite selfish thinking about catching the virus thinking you'll be fine anyway but not the bigger picture that you might transmit it to some poor biddy that can't cope with it.
Krs-won17/03/2020 11:44

, if they were to actually force pubs to close, would the pubs then be …, if they were to actually force pubs to close, would the pubs then be able to claim something back for loss of business?


No, this is a falsehood inadvertently propagated by some pub landlords.

The Association of British Insurers has issued a statement today saying that, for most businesses, even if the government were to order their closure, they would not be protected by insurance. The ABI says: Irrespective of whether or not the government orders closure of a business, the vast majority of firms won’t have purchased cover that will enable them to claim on their insurance to compensate for their business being closed by the coronavirus.

Standard business interruption cover - the type the majority of businesses purchase - does not include forced closure by authorities as it is intended to respond to physical damage at the property which results in the business being unable to continue to trade.
Sc4mp017/03/2020 12:10

But you can, by avoiding places like pubs and restaurants. It's also quite …But you can, by avoiding places like pubs and restaurants. It's also quite selfish thinking about catching the virus thinking you'll be fine anyway but not the bigger picture that you might transmit it to some poor biddy that can't cope with it.


A lot of people really don't care about anyone but themselves - that much is evident when you use any public forum or read any of the threads on here!
IamMT17/03/2020 12:12

No, this is a falsehood inadvertently propagated by some pub landlords.The …No, this is a falsehood inadvertently propagated by some pub landlords.The Association of British Insurers has issued a statement today saying that, for most businesses, even if the government were to order their closure, they would not be protected by insurance. The ABI says: Irrespective of whether or not the government orders closure of a business, the vast majority of firms won’t have purchased cover that will enable them to claim on their insurance to compensate for their business being closed by the coronavirus. Standard business interruption cover - the type the majority of businesses purchase - does not include forced closure by authorities as it is intended to respond to physical damage at the property which results in the business being unable to continue to trade.


And what about them actually forcing the pubs and restaurants to close? Where is the logic of letting them open? Yet again, they're just half-ar*sing things! This is passed directly by close contact, having people confined in close proximity for leisure makes zero sense. By that logic we might as well restart the sporting events and leave it up to the individual if he/she want's to take the risk and then risk passing it on to other people

Big, unpopular decisions need to be made, and made now.
I work in a place where i am surrounded by hundreds of people. I cant work from home. I cannot afford to stay off work. So if i am ok to be around all these people at work i am ok to go to a restaurant.
I know people say we cant risk passing it on but its the people at risk who should stay away. then everyone should live life as normal. the economy can continue.
Sc4mp017/03/2020 12:10

But you can, by avoiding places like pubs and restaurants. It's also quite …But you can, by avoiding places like pubs and restaurants. It's also quite selfish thinking about catching the virus thinking you'll be fine anyway but not the bigger picture that you might transmit it to some poor biddy that can't cope with it.


It's necessary for some to catch the virus tbh at this early stage.
SmokinAce717/03/2020 12:44

I work in a place where i am surrounded by hundreds of people. I cant work …I work in a place where i am surrounded by hundreds of people. I cant work from home. I cannot afford to stay off work. So if i am ok to be around all these people at work i am ok to go to a restaurant. I know people say we cant risk passing it on but its the people at risk who should stay away. then everyone should live life as normal. the economy can continue.



The risk of going to work is comparable to going to a pub. On the face of it the advice appears inconsistent. The reason the advice differs is because one is more important for the economy/business than the other. It's all about risk/return ratio where the gov have decided that the return is quantified in ££ rather than peoples pleasure/socialising.
Edited by: "honeststeveo" 17th Mar
davewave17/03/2020 12:48

It's necessary for some to catch the virus tbh at this early stage.


Yeah, lets have more index cases out there to assist with the spread to those immuno-compromised who may die after exposure.
Sorry but i think this virus was here last year so bit late in it all
Edited by: "ClaireC39" 17th Mar
SmokinAce717/03/2020 12:44

I work in a place where i am surrounded by hundreds of people. I cant work …I work in a place where i am surrounded by hundreds of people. I cant work from home. I cannot afford to stay off work. So if i am ok to be around all these people at work i am ok to go to a restaurant. I know people say we cant risk passing it on but its the people at risk who should stay away. then everyone should live life as normal. the economy can continue.


i think it is about minimising social contact unless absolutely necessary and restaurants, pubs, cafes, cinemas, theatres etc are considered non essential socialising. so we all have to become hermits until they have come up with a vaccine or cure for the disease.

i personally think people are actually socialising more as we now have to go to the supermarkets several times a week instead of once so for me personally my exposure to other people have increased about 5 times!
Krs-won17/03/2020 12:24

A lot of people really don't care about anyone but themselves - that much …A lot of people really don't care about anyone but themselves - that much is evident when you use any public forum or read any of the threads on here!


I think your wrong, there is a lot of selfishness, but there is also a lot of people doing good and using common sense...
Krs-won17/03/2020 12:24

A lot of people really don't care about anyone but themselves - that much …A lot of people really don't care about anyone but themselves - that much is evident when you use any public forum or read any of the threads on here!



It takes all sorts. If people want to assist they can.

I ought to self isolate for a period of around 9 weeks, but I went to my local M&S foodhall today and asked manager to do a small shop for me and he was only too happy to oblige.

When talking to the manager I overheard a member of staff saying she couldn't find any paracetamol for her 75 year old mother. I bought some yesterday from the close by pharmacy so I decided to go there whilst my shopping was being done. When I arrived I was told there was none for sale. When I explained that it was shame because M&S staff member wanted some for her elderly mother the woman on till spoke to the pharmacist and then sold me paracetamol that was for prescription only saying it wouldn't have any instructions. I paid and collected my shopping and handed over the paracetamol for the staff member who thought I was from planet Mars.

Earlier on in the morning I was in my CrossFit gym from 8.00am to 8.45am where the normal sessions are 7.00am-7.45am then 9.30am-10.15am. So I had the place to myself after the owner talked through the workout for the day with me.
Edited by: "OllieSt" 17th Mar
honeststeveo17/03/2020 12:53

The risk of going to work is comparable to going to a pub. On the face of …The risk of going to work is comparable to going to a pub. On the face of it the advice appears inconsistent. The reason the advice differs is because one is more important for the economy/business than the other. It's all about risk/return ratio where the gov have decided that the return is quantified in ££ rather than peoples pleasure/socialising.


You have to work in order to live and keep things going, food supply, power, water, nhs, police. Not financial a must. Going to the pub isn’t a must and if you didn’t work you wouldn’t be able to afford to go anyway..
Bargainhead17/03/2020 13:24

You have to work in order to live and keep things going, food supply, …You have to work in order to live and keep things going, food supply, power, water, nhs, police. Not financial a must. Going to the pub isn’t a must and if you didn’t work you wouldn’t be able to afford to go anyway..


i am thinking about all the people who work in the service industry. what will happen to them now that no one will be going to these places any more for months to come. are they going to be laid off? how are they going to live without pay?

and the far wider impact as what about those people who work in the supply chain for these services? are they still going to get paid even though there is no work for them any more?
Edited by: "mutley1" 17th Mar
Bargainhead17/03/2020 13:21

I think your wrong, there is a lot of selfishness, but there is also a lot …I think your wrong, there is a lot of selfishness, but there is also a lot of people doing good and using common sense...


How does your opinion make me wrong? Did I say, "everyone"? I said, "a lot".
OllieSt17/03/2020 13:23

It takes all sorts. If people want to assist they can. I ought to self …It takes all sorts. If people want to assist they can. I ought to self isolate for a period of around 9 weeks, but I went to my local M&S foodhall today and asked manager to do a small shop for me and he was only too happy to oblige. When talking to the manager I overheard a member of staff saying she couldn't find any paracetamol for her 75 year old mother. I bought some yesterday from the close by pharmacy so I decided to go there whilst my shopping was being done. When I arrived I was told there was none for sale. When I explained that it was shame because M&S staff member wanted some for her elderly mother the woman on till spoke to the pharmacist and then sold me paracetamol that was for prescription only saying it wouldn't have any instructions. I paid and collected my shopping and handed over the paracetamol for the staff member who thought I was from planet Mars.Earlier on in the morning I was in my CrossFit gym from 8.00am to 8.45am where the normal sessions are 7.00am-7.45am then 9.30am-10.15am. So I had the place to myself after the owner talked through the workout for the day with me.


I'm not quite sure what that has to do with my comment but oh well!
moob17/03/2020 13:02

Yeah, lets have more index cases out there to assist with the spread to …Yeah, lets have more index cases out there to assist with the spread to those immuno-compromised who may die after exposure.


Seems like you may be an expert.
OllieSt17/03/2020 13:59

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No, you illustrated that "you" cared. Again, at no point did I say that no one made any effort

But anyway, well done for "bigging yourself up". We all like selfless acts of kindness, especially when people insist on telling us how selfless they are

(muted)
Edited by: "Krs-won" 17th Mar
mutley117/03/2020 13:28

i am thinking about all the people who work in the service industry. what …i am thinking about all the people who work in the service industry. what will happen to them now that no one will be going to these places any more for months to come. are they going to be laid off? how are they going to live without pay?and the far wider impact as what about those people who work in the supply chain for these services? are they still going to get paid even though there is no work for them any more?


Workers will sign on the dole, supply chain also supply care homes, work canteens, hospitals not just pubs and restaurants, also they will be drafted to supply shops if it goes on long enough. People just scaring themselves for no reason, just get on with your life. It’s not the end of the world..
Krs-won17/03/2020 13:52

How does your opinion make me wrong? Did I say, "everyone"? I said, "a …How does your opinion make me wrong? Did I say, "everyone"? I said, "a lot".


Your wrong...
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Edited by: "longbowassassin" 17th Mar
Went for a carvery yesterday , straight to the counter zero queue , long may it continue
Bargainhead17/03/2020 14:14

Workers will sign on the dole, supply chain also supply care homes, work …Workers will sign on the dole, supply chain also supply care homes, work canteens, hospitals not just pubs and restaurants, also they will be drafted to supply shops if it goes on long enough. People just scaring themselves for no reason, just get on with your life. It’s not the end of the world..


i think we will end up in a global recession with mass unemployment as people in the service industry losing their jobs will have an impact on the rest of society. in the worry people will stop spending and so the income stream will start to affect all industry soon and not just the service industry. already this morning laura ashley has declared bankruptcy as people are no longer spending because of uncertainties at the moment.
AndyRoyd17/03/2020 14:12

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no they are not. they belong to the social distancing group as well as friends and family.

"Avoid large gatherings, and gatherings in smaller public spaces such as pubs, cinemas, restaurants, theatres, bars, clubs

Avoid gatherings with friends and family. Keep in touch using remote technology such as phone, internet, and social media"


gov.uk/gov…lts
mutley117/03/2020 15:10

i think we will end up in a global recession with mass unemployment as …i think we will end up in a global recession with mass unemployment as people in the service industry losing their jobs will have an impact on the rest of society. in the worry people will stop spending and so the income stream will start to affect all industry soon and not just the service industry. already this morning laura ashley has declared bankruptcy as people are no longer spending because of uncertainties at the moment.


Lol they didn’t just decide that in the last week, there had to be problems already... you have choices your glass is either half full or half empty it’s how you look at things... all this doom and gloom isn’t helping you.. apart from I won’t goto the pub or restaurants, my life still carries on and I have enough to occupy myself with having to worry about this. As it gets you know where...
Edited by: "Bargainhead" 17th Mar
My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting cant pay due to no fault of their own and you cant evict them either.
fearona17/03/2020 15:18

My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting …My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting cant pay due to no fault of their own and you cant evict them either.


Hopefully it’s registered as a business and your friend might get help from the government, they are publishing the help later today..
Bargainhead17/03/2020 15:17

Lol they didn’t just decide that in the last week, there had to be p …Lol they didn’t just decide that in the last week, there had to be problems already... you have choices your glass is either half full or half empty it’s how you look at things... all this doom and gloom isn’t helping you.. apart from I won’t goto the pub or restaurants, my life still carries on and I have enough to occupy myself with having to worry about this. As it gets you know where...


i agree that looking on the positive side is better all round and that being pessimistic is not going to help, as what will be will be, but it is hard to carry on as normal when you can see where things are going.

already we can't carry on as normal as you are meant not just stay away from restaurants and pubs and the like but also avoid contact with friends and family unless absolutely necessary. we can't do a normal shop and we can't go on holiday. we may lose our jobs soon and we shouldn't travel in the uk unless we need to.

so sticking our head in the sand in denial is not going to help either.
mikeportsmouth17/03/2020 14:54

Went for a carvery yesterday , straight to the counter zero queue , long …Went for a carvery yesterday , straight to the counter zero queue , long may it continue


Is this some kind of sick joke?
fearona17/03/2020 15:18

My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting …My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting cant pay due to no fault of their own and you cant evict them either.


It might be worth suggesting to them that they try to secure cash up front. I just managed to do just that for a 6 month AST rather than a 12 month pay monthly AST. Got to be worth the question
mutley117/03/2020 15:24

i agree that looking on the positive side is better all round and that …i agree that looking on the positive side is better all round and that being pessimistic is not going to help, as what will be will be, but it is hard to carry on as normal when you can see where things are going. already we can't carry on as normal as you are meant not just stay away from restaurants and pubs and the like but also avoid contact with friends and family unless absolutely necessary. we can't do a normal shop and we can't go on holiday. we may lose our jobs soon and we shouldn't travel in the uk unless we need to.so sticking our head in the sand in denial is not going to help either.


Not sticking head in sand, everything you mentioned is out of your control so no point dwelling on it. Get a hobby, decorate the house, play Xbox... these are only ideas you got to think for yourself...Apart from the time I may have to isolate if I’m ill or family member. I will have to work it all. No difference to me...
mutley117/03/2020 15:24

i agree that looking on the positive side is better all round and that …i agree that looking on the positive side is better all round and that being pessimistic is not going to help, as what will be will be, but it is hard to carry on as normal when you can see where things are going. already we can't carry on as normal as you are meant not just stay away from restaurants and pubs and the like but also avoid contact with friends and family unless absolutely necessary. we can't do a normal shop and we can't go on holiday. we may lose our jobs soon and we shouldn't travel in the uk unless we need to.so sticking our head in the sand in denial is not going to help either.



You can go on holiday in the uk, as you are unemployed atm you can also go when you want and also shop at what ever hour you want.
fearona17/03/2020 15:18

My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting …My friend owns and rents out 6 houses, big income drop when those renting cant pay due to no fault of their own and you cant evict them either.


Most prudent people would have previously prioritised reserves / savings where possible to cover reasonable periods of uncertainty in their lives, be it accident, redundancy, non-pandemic sickness and other such "no fault of their own" reasons. A similar contingency concept would be an essential part of a rational business plan of the entity receiving the rental income. But that is another debate for another time.
AndyRoyd17/03/2020 15:35

Most prudent people would have previously prioritised reserves / savings …Most prudent people would have previously prioritised reserves / savings where possible to cover reasonable periods of uncertainty in their lives, be it accident, redundancy, non-pandemic sickness and other such "no fault of their own" reasons. A similar contingency concept would be an essential part of a rational business plan of the entity receiving the rental income. But that is another debate for another time.



He has loads of money worth millions so will hardly have any real effect on him.
fearona17/03/2020 15:32

You can go on holiday in the uk, as you are unemployed atm you can also go …You can go on holiday in the uk, as you are unemployed atm you can also go when you want and also shop at what ever hour you want.


the advice is against any unneccessary travel so that includes going anywhere in the uk unless absolutely necessary. going on holiday is not necesssary and that is why airbnb are allowing people to cancel their holidays without penalty even if it is in the uk, where the scheduled stay is within the next few weeks.

also, if even if you did go, you wouldn't be able to enjoy yourself as you can't go out to eat and have to avoid crowds. you might as well stay at home. i may not be working but millions are and they may soon find themselves without income. these are worrying times as the future prospect looks bleak.
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