Avon Contact Centre moving to India

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Found 21st Aug 2008
I'm gutted about this, another nail in the british economy.

I am seriously considering my position as a Avon representative because i am against our british job's being sent abroad.

What do you think?

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Im an Avon rep too.
Nobody has said anything to me :O(

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It is on today's delivery sheet, the one with your name and address at the top.

im totally against it aswell, but express your opinion about it and you get branded a racist

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nono2522;2792848

im totally against it aswell, but express your opinion about it and you … im totally against it aswell, but express your opinion about it and you get branded a racist



I'm not ist about anything, i just don't agree with everything being abroad.

There are already too many people down the job centre, that is why young people are murdereing each other because they have no future.

I think the people who are born in this country, should be standing tall against non britishness.

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im an avon rep to... this is totally shocking!

I shall not be using Avon products in future......and I is black. Not racist, just a protection of our economy.

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choc1969;2792878

I shall not be using Avon products in future......and I is black. Not … I shall not be using Avon products in future......and I is black. Not racist, just a protection of our economy.



Good for you, i have black people in my family.

So i hate racism, i just don't believe that our economy, should be sold, so easily.

I think all Avon rep's and customer's should email them and let them know how they feel let down by them.

At the end of the day the people need to show companies like this that if they want our money they have to contribute with jobs, I stopped using Norwich Union and buying Dyson products for the same reason

thankyou..come again

Unfortunatley we have had sucessive governments that have paid people to sit at home doing nothing (dole and other benefits). This costs the country billions of pounds and forces up taxes.

The workers have to pay those taxes, so demand higher salaries.

Those higher salaries cost companies money, which has to be passed on in the price of their products.

So the "cost" of everything in the UK (people AND products) is high.

India and other countries pay their people much less because their cost of living is less, and they dont have a huge costs in welfare and other benefits, keeping the cost of employing workers down. Hence it is MUCH cheaper to have a call centre in India than having it in the UK.

So more UK people on the dole, less jobs, more benefits, taxes go up.

It cannot continue.

We are in big trouble.

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Why is this thread not listed in the current thread's, moderator's?

What part of it is moving?

Manufacturing? Offices?

Will us reps be out of a job then? :O(

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_kells_;2793221

What part of it is moving?Manufacturing? Offices? Will us reps be out of … What part of it is moving?Manufacturing? Offices? Will us reps be out of a job then? :O(



Just the contact centre at the moment, Avon is a worldwide company anyway.

We will probably find it harder to sell the product's because some people are passionate about this country.

guilbert53

"Unfortunatley we have had sucessive governments that have paid people to sit at home doing nothing (dole and other benefits). This costs the country billions of pounds and forces up taxes."

So what do you sugest back to the days of debtors prisons and work or die.

The unemployment figures match the immagration figures, curious !!

Make sure you tell companies EXACTLY why you dont wont use them or are leaving them. or they wont understand.

Let me ask some questions then,

Do you disagree with clothes, bags, shoes and trainers being made in Taiwan and other countries?

Do you eat Chinese, Indian, Italian food?

What is the difference between what you have posted and what I have asked?

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happy donkey;2793343

guilbert53"Unfortunatley we have had sucessive governments that have paid … guilbert53"Unfortunatley we have had sucessive governments that have paid people to sit at home doing nothing (dole and other benefits). This costs the country billions of pounds and forces up taxes."So what do you sugest back to the days of debtors prisons and work or die.The unemployment figures match the immagration figures, curious !! Make sure you tell companies EXACTLY why you dont wont use them or are leaving them. or they wont understand.



I will tell them EXACTLY, so there will be no worrie's on that score :thumbsup:

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LFC Muppet;2793403

Let me ask some questions then,Do you disagree with clothes, bags, shoes … Let me ask some questions then,Do you disagree with clothes, bags, shoes and trainers being made in Taiwan and other countries?Do you eat Chinese, Indian, Italian food?What is the difference between what you have posted and what I have asked?



Yes, i do, why are we being sold out?

choc1969;2792878

I shall not be using Avon products in future......and I is black. Not … I shall not be using Avon products in future......and I is black. Not racist, just a protection of our economy.



What does being black have to do with it?

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DLM;2793416

Yes, i do, why are we being sold out?



No, just in need to making some changes before we are in an actual trouble.

Nothing wrong with jobs being outsourced to India/Pakistan or any other country but there should be a limit to the number that can be outsourced to a given country

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Dell_in_the_bed;2793431

No, just in need to making some changes before we are in an actual … No, just in need to making some changes before we are in an actual trouble.Nothing wrong with jobs being outsourced to India/Pakistan or any other country but there should be a limit to the number that can be outsourced to a given country



I'm not happy with anybody being made redundant, so that they can join the endless queue of unemployed people.

DLM;2793416

Yes, i do, why are we being sold out?



What I am trying to say is people are so hypercritical, you are saying that people coming to this country, getting jobs and making things you benefit from is ok, but companies moving jobs abroad as it benefits them is not ok?

I think we have a lot more to worry about than jobs moving abroad.

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LFC Muppet;2793446

What I am trying to say is people are so hypercritical, you are saying … What I am trying to say is people are so hypercritical, you are saying that people coming to this country, getting jobs and making things you benefit from is ok, but companies moving jobs abroad as it benefits them is not ok?I think we have a lot more to worry about than jobs moving abroad.



When did i say the first bit, of this posting?

DLM;2793603

When did i say the first bit, of this posting?



LFC Muppet;2793403

Let me ask some questions then,Do you disagree with clothes, bags, shoes … Let me ask some questions then,Do you disagree with clothes, bags, shoes and trainers being made in Taiwan and other countries?Do you eat Chinese, Indian, Italian food?What is the difference between what you have posted and what I have asked?



DLM;2793416

Yes, i do.




Hey presto!

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LFC Muppet;2793621

Hey presto!



Yes, i do disagree :thumbsup:

DLM;2793719

Yes, i do disagree :thumbsup:



So you only eat English food?

Never ever been to a Chinese, Indians, Spanish, Thai or Italians?

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LFC Muppet;2793734

So you only eat English food?Never ever been to a Chinese, Indians, … So you only eat English food?Never ever been to a Chinese, Indians, Spanish, Thai or Italians?



Most of the people that work in these establishment's are born in this country.

They are also not making people redundant in their own countrie's by doing this type of work here.

DLM;2793753

Most of the people that work in these establishment's are born in this … Most of the people that work in these establishment's are born in this country.They are also not making people redundant in their own countrie's by doing this type of work here.



Agree and disagree.

Like I said "What suits you".

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DLM;2793753

Most of the people that work in these establishment's are born in this … Most of the people that work in these establishment's are born in this country.They are also not making people redundant in their own countrie's by doing this type of work here.



A. Dont really understand how come eating food and outsourcing jobs be compared :?
B. Again there is no harm in outsourcing jobs, why should'nt we as it benefits the companies and helps in cutting down the cost, and helps third world countries, HELPS HUMANS, but having said that for that to happen....
1. Continuous jobs creation should still be happening in the country
2. There should be a limit to number of jobs being allocated to India, personally I beleive the call center support through pakistan and sri Lanka is much better than coming from India, so why should only India be given preference (where a part of our call center is located as)if the purpose is to bring down cost and/OR help HUMANS

UK is, economically, in trouble and there is no denying that but I think it owes its origin to the few decision made by our brilliant politicians in the last two years of involving in wars and triffles mroe than anything else

Dell_in_the_bed;2793831

A. Dont really understand how come eating food and outsourcing jobs be … A. Dont really understand how come eating food and outsourcing jobs be compared :?



I was talking about Jobs in this country from people not born in this country and jobs from this country being moved to another country (if that makes sense).

How can you be against 1 and not the other?

That is what I meant.

BTW - I am against neither, and a main part of my job in the past was monitoring calls for an Indian call centre.

donnydude;2793424

What does being black have to do with it?



Precisely what I was thinking :?

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LFC Muppet;2793860

BTW - I am against neither, and a main part of my job in the past was … BTW - I am against neither, and a main part of my job in the past was monitoring calls for an Indian call centre.




:thumbsup: I think I misunderstood you then :oops:

I think at the end of the day, we all are humans; hate it when people let themselves be bogged down by bounderies or races and eventually playing into the hands of these dirty policitians (not all, but most) and stupid news channels aka fox and CNN

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King of Thieves;2793929

Precisely what I was thinking :?



lol King you joined in at the right moment :thumbsup:

Dell_in_the_bed;2793949

lol King you joined in at the right moment :thumbsup:



Still trying to read the posts and get an idea of whats going on... Give me a while and if I find it interesting I might post :thumbsup:

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LFC Muppet;2793795

Agree and disagree.Like I said "What suits you".



It doesn't suit me that our economy is in freefall and that our job centre's are full of redundant people.

Don't really see what the problem is. Like most things it has its bad points and its good points, but these pretty much equal out. Its not really something to get fussed over unless it directly affects you... Just my thoughts anyway.

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LFC Muppet;2793860

I was talking about Jobs in this country from people not born in this … I was talking about Jobs in this country from people not born in this country and jobs from this country being moved to another country (if that makes sense).How can you be against 1 and not the other?That is what I meant.BTW - I am against neither, and a main part of my job in the past was monitoring calls for an Indian call centre.



I am not against people opening up shop's in this country, we have a full lane of African shop's in my town.

The only problem is that these shop's do not serve my need's and would probably not employ me because i am not black.

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King of Thieves;2793929

Precisely what I was thinking :?



I think what she was trying to say, was that she is black but has an issue with work going abroad.

She might be a black british born person.

DLM;2794010

I am not against people opening up shop's in this country, we have a full … I am not against people opening up shop's in this country, we have a full lane of African shop's in my town.The only problem is that these shop's do not serve my need's and would probably not employ me because i am not black.



I think you need to be careful in what you are saying :x

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King of Thieves;2794008

Don't really see what the problem is. Like most things it has its bad … Don't really see what the problem is. Like most things it has its bad points and its good points, but these pretty much equal out. Its not really something to get fussed over unless it directly affects you... Just my thoughts anyway.



It does directly effect the people who work at Avon, they will soon be joining the queue of the current unemployed in Northamptonshire.

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LFC Muppet;2794017

I think you need to be careful in what you are saying :x



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