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    Barclays fraud -Heads up

    I have recently been the victim of an online fraud. I went onto the barclays site to transfer some money for a fs/ft. I was asked to go through a 10 step verification process.

    I am usually very careful, but I felt safe on the site and didn't notice a redirect. The long and short of it is someone defrauded me out of 2 grand!

    Barclays picked up on it and refunded me within 2 days even before I had checked my account and picked up on it. I have no idea how they knew it was fraud but i moan about barclays sometimes but on this occasion they were spot on.

    This is just a heads up and hopefully will stop someone else getting conned by these dirty scumbags.

    95 Comments

    Mod & Ed

    thanks, was that still using the pin sentry?

    Original Poster

    wishihadadonkey

    thanks, was that still using the pin sentry?



    Yup, these criminals and there phishing programs are getting highly advanced

    Banned

    do you use a card reader? with Natwest and Lloyds I use one when online banking.

    Original Poster

    goldmax

    do you use a card reader? with Natwest and Lloyds I use one when online … do you use a card reader? with Natwest and Lloyds I use one when online banking.



    yes, its called pinsentry. It is basically this that allowed them to get me to basically give them 2 grand.



    This verification process was me basically transfering them the 2,000

    Edited by: "jonny619447" 16th May 2011

    How did you manage that if you went to the Barclays site directly ???

    OP did you get a email from your bank & you followed the Link ?
    Did you then give them all your bank details ?

    Original Poster

    ChrisUK

    How did you manage that if you went to the Barclays site directly ???



    Basically barclays are saying I have a trojan on my computer that redirected me, without me knowing

    Original Poster

    WheresMeNuts

    OP did you get a email from your bank & you followed the Link ?Did you … OP did you get a email from your bank & you followed the Link ?Did you then give them all your bank details ?



    No, I went to the barclays site, clicked the login button and thats when the redirect must of taken place.

    I am fully aware of phishing emails, but this was a much more highly advanced scam.

    Nice work.

    **** for you, but clever !!

    Glad your all sorted anyway fella.

    Did Barclays give you any advice on how to avoid this happening in the future (apart from opening dodgy files, visiting dodgy websites & keeping your security upto date) ?

    Original Poster

    ChrisUK

    Nice work.**** for you, but clever !!Glad your all sorted anyway … Nice work.**** for you, but clever !!Glad your all sorted anyway fella.Did Barclays give you any advice on how to avoid this happening in the future (apart from opening dodgy files, visiting dodgy websites & keeping your security upto date) ?



    Thanks Chris,

    They are sending me a trojan remover by email to get rid of it from me computer and advised me to change my card.

    Possibly an inside job? as this is the first time I have been frauded and funnily enough never really had this much in this account until about 2 weeks ago! big conincidence.

    ChrisUK

    Nice work.**** for you, but clever !!Glad your all sorted anyway … Nice work.**** for you, but clever !!Glad your all sorted anyway fella.Did Barclays give you any advice on how to avoid this happening in the future (apart from opening dodgy files, visiting dodgy websites & keeping your security upto date) ?


    All the above Jonny will help you.

    Original Poster

    WheresMeNuts

    All the above Jonny will help you.



    yup, thanks wheresmenuts and chris uk.


    Oh no, was you trying to transfer to me? Hope you sort it out mate, good luck

    Original Poster

    roadie

    Oh no, was you trying to transfer to me? Hope you sort it out mate, good … Oh no, was you trying to transfer to me? Hope you sort it out mate, good luck



    Hi mate, no this was someone else. But everytime I then went on to the barclays site it said the site was unavailable probably because I kept getting redirected to the dodgy site.

    I am going to sort it and then buy that game off you if still available. I'll PM you later about it.

    Thanks

    OP have you done a full AV run on the PC ?

    Get a Mac and no problems like this whatsoever..:p

    Original Poster

    WheresMeNuts

    OP have you done a full AV run on the PC ?



    Just got back from work, I'm running a full mcafee scan now, and I will then run the special trojan remover barclays have emailed to me.

    I will post the results. I will also try and find the redirect page I was moved to and post it (with part of it starred out)

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    heovang

    Get a Mac and no problems like this whatsoever..:p



    Not yet, but as mac becomes more popular so the scammers will attack your little safe haven too

    heovang

    Get a Mac and no problems like this whatsoever..:p


    yeah but then you look like a knob, would rather get frauded

    Original Poster

    Is it possible, that a trojan can redirect without showing a redirect url? I know it sounds crazy but I can't see a redirect page in my history

    heovang

    Get a Mac and no problems like this whatsoever..:p



    Oh dear. A comment like that leads me to think that you are either a sucker for advertising, incredibly naive or work for Mr. Jobs. Most likely a combination of the first two...

    jonny619447

    Is it possible, that a trojan can redirect without showing a redirect … Is it possible, that a trojan can redirect without showing a redirect url? I know it sounds crazy but I can't see a redirect page in my history



    Im sure it can, just masks it like when you link 2 or more domains together to have the same address(in appearance) but how they do it without permissions from barclays is unclear. Scammers are always one step ahead

    Edited by: "simplex" 16th May 2011

    Original Poster

    simplex

    Im sure it can, just masks it like when you link 2 or more domains … Im sure it can, just masks it like when you link 2 or more domains together to have the same address(in appearance) but how they do it without permissions from barclays is unclear. Scammers are always one step ahead



    Unless they managed to hack the barclays systems (obviously Barclays would never make such a breach public) and that is why I was also refunded so quickly. The money was out and back in my account with 2 days without any input from me. How did they know I was frauded and did not send the money legitimately for a product that I bought? I think there is much they are not telling me.

    Any customers of Barclays just be on your guard

    Original Poster

    Mcafee only found 1 thing "adware-loudmo.e"

    I'm also running Emisisoft Antimalware and that is finding lots of things and still scanning.

    With the one Mcafee found, it said it could only partially remove it. I'm guessing the malware is going to reinstall itself. Any ideas?

    run MalwareBytes Anti-Malware
    Edited by: "munaaf" 16th May 2011

    jonny619447

    Not yet, but as mac becomes more popular so the scammers will attack your … Not yet, but as mac becomes more popular so the scammers will attack your little safe haven too



    :p..so far so good lol

    dataload

    yeah but then you look like a knob, would rather get frauded



    Hahaha..hope you won't start another thread about getting "frauded"

    jah128

    Oh dear. A comment like that leads me to think that you are either a … Oh dear. A comment like that leads me to think that you are either a sucker for advertising, incredibly naive or work for Mr. Jobs. Most likely a combination of the first two...



    Maybe I am but I am more than happy to pay for the premium package:

    A) Best customer care service I have ever experienced.
    B) Something that holds value well, pay £1000 today, this day next year I would be able to sell it again at £850ish.. May be I am too naive for this..

    Perhaps you can point out to me if your "Gates" can offer me better services than this, rather than being worry to install firewalls, anti-virus software, etc. Don't want to start a classic debate again here (PC vs Mac)

    Or perhaps you should experienced it for yourself

    I had the same thing happen but with HSBC. It just asked for the full security number then it said I couldn't access my account at that time. Thought it was dodgy and phoned HSBC to see if they'd changed the process and they hadn't. Same issue - had a virus that was redirecting me and no, it didn't show a redirect page or anything!

    Banned

    and get a decent AV suite

    mcafee is crap!

    heovang

    Maybe I am but I am more than happy to pay for the premium package:



    You are paying double what you are actually receive in physical tangable equipment. Apple invented "posh" electronics, and you sir are a class a sucker. no offense.

    Original Poster

    csiman

    and get a decent AV suitemcafee is crap!



    its a brand new laptop only using it because its free for 3 months.

    I usually use avg

    jonny619447

    its a brand new laptop only using it because its free for 3 months.I … its a brand new laptop only using it because its free for 3 months.I usually use avg


    filehippo.com/dow…us/

    Banned

    jonny619447

    its a brand new laptop only using it because its free for 3 months.I … its a brand new laptop only using it because its free for 3 months.I usually use avg


    Thats even worse!

    heovang

    Maybe I am but I am more than happy to pay for the premium package:A) … Maybe I am but I am more than happy to pay for the premium package:A) Best customer care service I have ever experienced. B) Something that holds value well, pay £1000 today, this day next year I would be able to sell it again at £850ish.. May be I am too naive for this..Perhaps you can point out to me if your "Gates" can offer me better services than this, rather than being worry to install firewalls, anti-virus software, etc. Don't want to start a classic debate again here (PC vs Mac)Or perhaps you should experienced it for yourself



    Its not a 'PC' vs Mac debate (they are both PCs), neither is it a Windows vs Mac debate, Gates is a much yours as he is mine. But your attitude is shared by many other Mac owners and you must realise it makes you a perfect candidate for targeting: plenty of disposable money and a flippant, naive trust in the security of their operating system - particularly if you choose not to run any firewall or AV software. Its only a matter of time before this trust begins to get exploited in severe ways...

    splatsplatsplat

    You are paying double what you are actually receive in physical tangable … You are paying double what you are actually receive in physical tangable equipment. Apple invented "posh" electronics, and you sir are a class a sucker. no offense.



    No worry and thanks, at least I have the capability to do so..



    jah128

    Its only a matter of time before this trust begins to get exploited in … Its only a matter of time before this trust begins to get exploited in severe ways...



    Obviously technology things are vulnerable for target by fraudsters so it is only a matter of time, but for now at least I know I am ok,

    And it is you people who took my comment to the OP as a joke seriously and start the debate again.

    I will stop commenting on this thread


    Edited by: "heovang" 17th May 2011

    if im reading this correctly, this is basically a redirect to the hackers's website from using the official barclays website?
    Sounds like pretty advanced stuff to escape that from barclays themselves.
    Edited by: "Artonox" 17th May 2011

    Free tech help here if required

    Download and install malwarebytes as discussed above.

    Download and install hijackthis :

    free.antivirus.com/hij…is/

    Do scan only, then click save log, copy/paste post up results, you can do this here or via pm.

    Thanks

    Banned

    I am usually very careful



    All signs point to the opposite.

    Original Poster

    vibeone

    All signs point to the opposite.



    vibeone, this was a redirect from the official barclays site with no redirect url. You telling me you or anyone else would not have fell for this, it was basically undetectable.

    Original Poster

    Artonox

    if im reading this correctly, this is basically a redirect to the … if im reading this correctly, this is basically a redirect to the hackers's website from using the official barclays website?Sounds like pretty advanced stuff to escape that from barclays themselves.



    Yup done by some very clever w******

    Which is why I posted to make sure others are extra vigilant when using online banking
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