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    Just after some advice really - do people still mark things with their post code these days with ultra violet pens? I remember being told to do it to our bikes when we were kids but is it worth marking the xbox\media center\TV\NAS etc etc.

    Just wondering if the police still check for this when they find something or if things have moved on since then!

    Also if anyone knows about locks where is a good place to start? We have standard PVC doors but I've been reading about deadbolts and 3 point locks - will these fit any door or just certain types?

    Thanks for any pointers,
    worto.

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    Original Poster

    might get one of these & thinking of getting better locks installed if it's possible

    UV Pen

    I Wanted some cameras but the GF wasn't happy with the idea and they are expensive so looking for other tips instead.
    Edited by: "worto03" 26th May 2011

    Banned

    These days I just urinate on my stuff.

    All our stuff is marked with Smart Water..........the Police and Council had a city wide initiative to get people to do it. All free.........worth checking with your local force.

    whatsThePoint

    Is that the smartwater you can clearly see when its been put on something



    No, it's invisible to the naked eye. I can't see it on anything i've put it on.

    Original Poster

    hummm smartwater looks good but you seem to have to pay a yearly subscription (not seen how much yet)

    edit - I'm not sure urinating on my xbox, tv and media center etc. etc. is a very good idea!
    Edited by: "worto03" 26th May 2011

    worto03

    hummm smartwater looks good but you seem to have to pay a yearly … hummm smartwater looks good but you seem to have to pay a yearly subscription (not seen how much yet)



    As i say worth checking with your local force as it was all free here and no subscription. I don't know who ended up paying the tab though........whether it was the Police, the Council, both or possibly a government grant.

    Home security is a big complex area - but here is what I do to minimise the chances of becoming a victim.

    Marking with a UV pen. As little as £1 on the bay, post code and house number in a few places on each valuable item.

    Insurance - go around your house with a camera and photograph ALL you valuables, inc serial numbers if possible. This makes insurance claims a LOT easier.

    Locks - three point locks are great, and are standard with new double glazing - can't really be fitted to existing windows and doors though. There are plenty of aftermarket locks and bolts for windows and doors available though. Exterior doors should have two, if not three points where they are locks, ideally top, middle and bottom. Yale locks are great for this.

    Fit an alarm system - a Yale wireless alarm can be bought for £100 that will let a burglar know (clear exterior siren and window stickers) that if they break in, there's going to be a lot of noise. Most importantly, it stops people breaking in while you are upstairs asleep.

    Finally, fit security lighting - burglars love dark, enclosed areas.

    whatsThePoint

    Is that the smartwater you can clearly see when its been put on something



    No, it's invisible in normal light. But if someone gets arrested for the burglary, then certain police forces make everyone going through custody go through a UV lit part of corridor and that is when the Smartwater will show up. Only a few forces do this as yet so check your force does before thinking of investing in it. Last I knew, Hampshire were when I took people in there, not sure if they still do.

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    profet

    Home security is a big complex area - but here is what I do to minimise … Home security is a big complex area - but here is what I do to minimise the chances of becoming a victim.Marking with a UV pen. As little as £1 on the bay, post code and house number in a few places on each valuable item.Insurance - go around your house with a camera and photograph ALL you valuables, inc serial numbers if possible. This makes insurance claims a LOT easier.Locks - three point locks are great, and are standard with new double glazing - can't really be fitted to existing windows and doors though. There are plenty of aftermarket locks and bolts for windows and doors available though. Exterior doors should have two, if not three points where they are locks, ideally top, middle and bottom. Yale locks are great for this.Fit an alarm system - a Yale wireless alarm can be bought for £100 that will let a burglar know (clear exterior siren and window stickers) that if they break in, there's going to be a lot of noise. Most importantly, it stops people breaking in while you are upstairs asleep.Finally, fit security lighting - burglars love dark, enclosed areas.



    Move to a decent area needs adding to your list!

    whatsThePoint

    I've seen smartwater on stuff and it looks like a small blob of glue



    They've done it wrong. X) you just need a little swish of the brush and job done.

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    vibeone

    These days I just urinate on my stuff.



    That doesn't sound much like smart water!

    master_chief

    Move to a decent area needs adding to your list!



    The proper crims get together in their old battered up fiestas and drive to the good areas to go stealing. There are only so many PS3s you can palm off to cash converters.

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    profet

    The proper crims get together in their old battered up fiestas and drive … The proper crims get together in their old battered up fiestas and drive to the good areas to go stealing. There are only so many PS3s you can palm off to cash converters.



    Crime statistics don't back that up. If you live in a low crime area you live in a low crime area.

    Original Poster

    Crime statistics don't back that up. If you live in a low crime area you … Crime statistics don't back that up. If you live in a low crime area you live in a low crime area.



    Either way it still doesn't make you immune to being robbed - you may be the only person robbed in your village that year resulting in a nice low crime area - you've still been robbed though!

    Most of the free stuff in south derbyshire (where I am) seems to be for people over 60, I'll go for the UV pen and at least do that - then we're having a new kitchen fitted in a few weeks so I'll ask them about what locks would be suitable for our doors - it's a family friend fitting the kitchen I'm pretty sure he does locks for people too.

    Thanks for the replies.

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    worto03

    Either way it still doesn't make you immune to being robbed - you may be … Either way it still doesn't make you immune to being robbed - you may be the only person robbed in your village that year resulting in a nice low crime area - you've still been robbed though!Most of the free stuff in south derbyshire (where I am) seems to be for people over 60, I'll go for the UV pen and at least do that - then we're having a new kitchen fitted in a few weeks so I'll ask them about what locks would be suitable for our doors - it's a family friend fitting the kitchen I'm pretty sure he does locks for people too.Thanks for the replies.



    Doesn't make you immune no, I never claimed it did. The same as all the points I quoted don't make you immune either.

    Original Poster

    Doesn't make you immune no, I never claimed it did. The same as all the … Doesn't make you immune no, I never claimed it did. The same as all the points I quoted don't make you immune either



    indeed - might help though.

    to be honest - it's a bit debatable if I'd want my stuff back after it's been abused by some robbing gits, it's all insured so I'm probably better off claiming on that but if marking it helps the police prove it's been stolen so they can charge someone thats gotta be good I guess.

    edit - actually how does that work - if you get robbed you make an insurance claim then what happens if the police return your stuff to you a couple of months later?
    Edited by: "worto03" 26th May 2011

    master_chief

    Crime statistics don't back that up. If you live in a low crime area you … Crime statistics don't back that up. If you live in a low crime area you live in a low crime area.



    Fair enough. As long as you don't think you are safe just cause you live in a good area!

    After watching Law Abiding Citizen and having my two little girls in the house I think I'll be sleeping with a baseball bat under my pillow, and that's only because I can't get hold of a shotgun!
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