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    Becoming a Yodel self employed neighbour hood driver

    Hey guys

    Has anyone had any experience with this, Yodel have offered me a position doing this, because I am a full time dad I am not looking for a full wage (don't see how you could when you see the numbers) but I can not see how they can claim min wage as the numbers don't stack up?

    I would get 50p a parcel, on average 30-60 parcels a day, but I use my own car and fuel and have to have business insurance

    now, the business insurance I am guessing will be about £50 extra for the year (that is what it was for my wife when we had to do it a few years back, however it may be more when I say it is to be a courier)

    they promise within a 3 mile radius, however you have to do up to 3 attempts of delivery to get your 50p, they work it out that you deliver a parcel every 4 mins (which is plainly daft as traffic kills that before you even turn your key)

    so add to that with fuel (I reckon 30 to a gallon as it is stop start on my diesel car, also not factoring in wear and tear!)

    the numbers don't seem to be all that good, presuming I got 60 parcels, that is £30, but you only need some of the people to not be in and the whole domino chain starts to fall down, a lot of people are out in the day..

    has anyone ever done this job, I am not worried about making loads of money as it is just for pocket money, but on the flip side I don't want to be working for free, if that makes sense?

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    So you make a max of £30 for 4 hours work ergo £7.50/hour less fuel costs .........nope defiantly not a money spinner.As for three deliverys round here they just dump it with a neibour and leave a card through the door.
    Edited by: "arachnoid" 12th Dec 2014

    Probably better off delivering take aways!

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    arachnoid

    So you make a max of £30 for 4 hours work ergo £7.50/hour less fuel costs … So you make a max of £30 for 4 hours work ergo £7.50/hour less fuel costs .........nope defiantly not a money spinner



    agreed, can not see how they claim it is a wage (Tories hey...as long as you work we don't care) but they don't factor in business insurance and they did not really answer my question on if the person is out...as if you have to revisit 3 times your costs are gone, and if they parcel does not get delivered you don't get paid

    for example, if a person is 3 miles away and you attempt 3 deliveries, you would of covered 18 miles for 50p
    Edited by: "Aeschylus" 12th Dec 2014

    Original Poster

    I would not even really consider doing it during the day (as people are out) on their numbers, which kind of defeats the point I guess as it was suppose to be a little run around job while the lad was at school

    guess nothing is ever as it seems

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    Aeschylus

    they did not really answer my question on if the person is out...as if … they did not really answer my question on if the person is out...as if you have to revisit 3 times your costs are gone, and if they parcel does not get delivered you don't get paid



    But you have now answered my question as to why Yodel delivery persons seem quite happy to leave a parcel anywhere regardless of security.

    Editor

    On the plus side mate, Something must be going right somewhere for their delivery drivers because (no word of a lie) a item I ordered from Amazon was dispatched to me via Yodel, the guy delivering it turned up in a brand spanking new 2014 BMW oO

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    BuzzDuraband

    But you have now answered my question as to why Yodel delivery persons … But you have now answered my question as to why Yodel delivery persons seem quite happy to leave a parcel anywhere regardless of security.



    yeah, they would not really let me push them on it, or the 4 mins per parcel..... my basic conclusion was that to get anywhere near their projections one would need to deliver late at night...after 9pm I reckon, but then you are going to **** of a lot of customers who are waiting for that parcel.

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    Aeschylus

    yeah, they would not really let me push them on it, or the 4 mins per … yeah, they would not really let me push them on it, or the 4 mins per parcel..... my basic conclusion was that to get anywhere near their projections one would need to deliver late at night...after 9pm I reckon, but then you are going to **** of a lot of customers who are waiting for that parcel.



    I wouldn't personally work for this company mate, I think ideally you might want to consider working for yourself, dependant on how desperate you are to get out of the house.

    Years ago before I set up the current company I own, I was left unemployed and used to make my money literally buying and selling off the internet, I'm not talking about buying used stuff off eBay and reselling it, I mean maybe look into various wholesale items and make a living that way?

    BuzzDuraband

    On the plus side mate, Something must be going right somewhere for their … On the plus side mate, Something must be going right somewhere for their delivery drivers because (no word of a lie) a item I ordered from Amazon was dispatched to me via Yodel, the guy delivering it turned up in a brand spanking new 2014 BMW oO



    Yeh but they might be onto a nice earner with something else and the parcels are just an extra. Besides just because someone has something doesn't mean it's paid for.

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    Mum2ConnornCerys

    Yeh but they might be onto a nice earner with something else and the … Yeh but they might be onto a nice earner with something else and the parcels are just an extra. Besides just because someone has something doesn't mean it's paid for.



    It was a tongue in cheek comment

    BuzzDuraband

    It was a tongue in cheek comment



    Damn the OP already got signed up now, he was hoping for a new 2015 BMW.

    I looked into this a while back and figured wasn't worth doing.

    I used to have someone coming round from Avon who I used to place orders with and they were moving out of the area and asked me if I wanted their round before they give it up entirely to be passed over to someone else, again that wasn't worth me doing either.

    These kind of little jobs are worth considering if you have a partner with a regular wage coming in and it's a bit of extra top up or if you on your own and got a nice reliable earner yourself and you want a bit extra.

    I would go for it.. but add other companies as well. Maximise your time by including other couriers.
    Also consider door deliveries like Avon, betterware. You can make this work but its abit late as if you started
    in September, you would be making quite abit of £££ as its the busy period of the year.

    Good luck and hope you can make some pocket money.

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    Mum2ConnornCerys

    I looked into this a while back and figured wasn't worth doing.I used to … I looked into this a while back and figured wasn't worth doing.I used to have someone coming round from Avon who I used to place orders with and they were moving out of the area and asked me if I wanted their round before they give it up entirely to be passed over to someone else, again that wasn't worth me doing either. These kind of little jobs are worth considering if you have a partner with a regular wage coming in and it's a bit of extra top up or if you on your own and got a nice reliable earner yourself and you want a bit extra.



    that is me, but it seems very low pay, remember you have to work your route out as well, so you get 60 parcels, how long would it take to work out the route for best speed/cost load up the 60 parcels into you car....

    this is all before you earn a penny

    Have they mentioned anything regarding accountability yet?

    If a parcel is lost will you be docked any money... Ie one customer contest delivery.. if you had to pay say £15 thats a whole afternoons work written off?

    Dont forget to take into account possible overheads like Parking tickets, new tyres etc

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    mork-09

    Have they mentioned anything regarding accountability yet?If a parcel is … Have they mentioned anything regarding accountability yet?If a parcel is lost will you be docked any money... Ie one customer contest delivery.. if you had to pay say £15 thats a whole afternoons work written off?Dont forget to take into account possible overheads like Parking tickets, new tyres etc



    sort of, you get paid by 'confirmed delivery' so basically signed for, the others will get paid I presume if there are no disputes...

    I am a bit gutted as I really wanted to do it, but my local area is a nightmare for parking (unless you pay) factor in the business insurance and wear and tear on car, I really would be doing it for pocket money, but if something happened, crash or break down that all goes out the window and would be minus....

    what is has given me is a new respect for the guys that do this, also you are not guaranteed anything, Vans come first, you get the over flow

    Aeschylus

    sort of, you get paid by 'confirmed delivery' so basically signed for, … sort of, you get paid by 'confirmed delivery' so basically signed for, the others will get paid I presume if there are no disputes...I am a bit gutted as I really wanted to do it, but my local area is a nightmare for parking (unless you pay) factor in the business insurance and wear and tear on car, I really would be doing it for pocket money, but if something happened, crash or break down that all goes out the window and would be minus....what is has given me is a new respect for the guys that do this, also you are not guaranteed anything, Vans come first, you get the over flow



    hmm does sound too risky!

    Why do you not stick to the same idea but as similar posts above... just do your own private courier deliveries... get some business cards and some stickers for the van and start small and build up a portfolio of local customers!

    I know a few people who do this and they still pick up items for interlink etc as part of their rounds...

    I did it for 4 years, I don't like to admit to it because of the abuse you get. but I liked the actual job, It went downhill when they started closing depots and then changing to yodel (was dhl & hdnl), we got our parcels later (instead of 9am - I got them 12 - 2oclock) then the pay cuts came in whilst petrol was rocketing. They stopped giving us cards to leave (had to make my own) and kept lying to us. They were always changing things to their own benefit. So I quit. I enjoyed it for a few years, but it was no fun waiting all day for them to give you your parcels when you knew certain regular customers would be out by the time you got to them or businesses would be closed (delivering during in the school run would be delivery suicide + roads would be chokka) etc.

    TBH, I wouldn't recommend, unless things (wages + conditions, managers) have changed recently.

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    splatsplatsplat

    I did it for 4 years, I don't like to admit to it because of the abuse … I did it for 4 years, I don't like to admit to it because of the abuse you get. but I liked the actual job, It went downhill when they started closing depots and then changing to yodel (was dhl & hdnl), we got our parcels later (instead of 9am - I got them 12 - 2oclock) then the pay cuts came in whilst petrol was rocketing. They stopped giving us cards to leave (had to make my own) and kept lying to us. They were always changing things to their own benefit. So I quit. I enjoyed it for a few years, but it was no fun waiting all day for them to give you your parcels when you knew certain regular customers would be out by the time you got to them or businesses would be closed (delivering during in the school run would be delivery suicide + roads would be chokka) etc.TBH, I wouldn't recommend, unless things (wages + conditions, managers) have changed recently.



    I spoke to one guy and he put his mobile number on the cards and he said to get people to call you to say when they will be in

    I work for Royal Mail and I've seen people from other delivery companies taking photos of the item actually being delivered to proove it to their bosses.

    I wouldn't work for any of them. It's probably not what you want but it's worth checking out RM jobs in your local area as they're offering a lot more P/T jobs these days.

    it is a pitty that it is so low paid, it would be a good small job for many ppl, a chance to get out and meet ppl, our local drive will often chat and we are all happy to take in parcels for eachother, and he has worked out who will be in and when

    I am shocked he is so poorly paid

    Aeschylus

    I spoke to one guy and he put his mobile number on the cards and he said … I spoke to one guy and he put his mobile number on the cards and he said to get people to call you to say when they will be in



    thats right, but for that 50p you get, you have to make 3 attempts. so if noones in first time (& no neighbour IF you are allowed, safe place IF you are allowed), and they dont bother ringing (50% bothered) you have to spend the petrol + time trying 2 more attempts. I had a handful that I sent back to the depot after 3 attempts come back the next week for delivery attempt 4,5..etc and still no money for it until it was delivered.

    seems starnge

    You'd make more money with less hassle working for minimum wage.

    moob

    You'd make more money with less hassle working for minimum wage.



    At least you'd get holiday pay, sickness, maternity/paternity, a contract!, national insurance paid etc etc

    Aeschylus

    [quote=splatsplatsplat] I did it for 4 years, I don't like to admit to it … [quote=splatsplatsplat] I did it for 4 years, I don't like to admit to it because of the abuse you get. but I liked the actual job, It went downhill when they started closing depots and then changing to yodel (was dhl & hdnl), we got our parcels later (instead of 9am - I got them 12 - 2oclock) then the pay cuts came in whilst petrol was rocketing. They stopped giving us cards to leave (had to make my own) and kept lying to us. They were always changing things to their own benefit. So I quit. I enjoyed it for a few years, but it was no fun waiting all day for them to give you your parcels when you knew certain regular customers would be out by the time you got to them or businesses would be closed (delivering during in the school run would be delivery suicide + roads would be chokka) etc.TBH, I wouldn't recommend, unless things (wages + conditions, managers) have changed recently.



    I spoke to one guy and he put his mobile number on the cards and he said to get people to call you to say when they will be in[/quote

    My delivery guy left his number one day and i gave him mi ne and now he just texts me when is the best time to come
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