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    been ripped off again on hukd

    as stated i need to check if someone is using hukd as ive tried pm etc and had no luck and wanna know if they are still using it?!?! ive been ripped off once again on hotdeals

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    Banned

    I think from memory if you click on the username, then view profile you can find out when they were last online

    how have you been ripped off if you don't mind me asking?

    Original Poster

    ive just looked and it seems they havent been on for 5 days?? what happened is i did a swap item and i sent mine off and not recieved anything from them ive tried to email and phone but had no luck??

    Sorry to hear that. What happen before when you were ripped off? Same?

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    angelfacexx;1453862

    ive just looked and it seems they havent been on for 5 days?? what … ive just looked and it seems they havent been on for 5 days?? what happened is i did a swap item and i sent mine off and not recieved anything from them ive tried to email and phone but had no luck??


    ok did you send the item with proof of postage ? if not was the item sent recorded.?

    Original Poster

    yes i did send item with proof of posting and know i can claim off royal mail but its just not fair and think this site should look into it more and maybe admin etc should contact buyer with threat as ebay would!!

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    angelfacexx;1453926

    yes i did send item with proof of posting and know i can claim off royal … yes i did send item with proof of posting and know i can claim off royal mail but its just not fair and think this site should look into it more and maybe admin etc should contact buyer with threat as ebay would!!


    well there are two hopes of the latter .. BOB and No

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/images/stop.gifStop! Do not start a trade before reading and following this guide: ]FS/FT trading advice and reading the ]FS/FT rules

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    angelfacexx;1453926

    yes i did send item with proof of posting and know i can claim off royal … yes i did send item with proof of posting and know i can claim off royal mail but its just not fair and think this site should look into it more and maybe admin etc should contact buyer with threat as ebay would!!


    You wont be able to claim off the RM unless the item failed to arrive which I doubt is the case here.

    can you name and shame?

    I think the FS section rules could do with a bit of a overhaul,are people making offers and not following through all the time now,it could do with tightening up a lot.

    Did you actually follow the guidelines or did you trade by pm? I can't see any offers or acceptances within that thread...

    Probably worth giving them a little longer just incase, maybe something serious has stopped them getting online.

    which thread is it?

    Original Poster

    i did do all on hd not through pm and followed all the rules i did get phone number etc and was all ok but cant get no reply now maybe it is being delayed as i did get email to say she didnt managed to get to post office as agreed but this was after id sent mine and that she will do asap the following day but thats still 4 days ago and ive sent pm etc but had no reply i do think hot deals should improve in fact if someone dosnt follow through should get email etc from hotdeals stating its against the law to recieve goods under faulse etc if you know what i mean ebay do this i mean im quite lucky it was 3 games not a ps3 or something of more value and as stated royal mail cannot cop this as item has been delivered most probably!!

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    can you post the link to the thread, as i cannot see it anwhere (bring back view posts made by)

    Assume its] this one?

    Sassie - the "Find all threads containing posts by" link on a users profile page still works (although I agree they should repair the other broken links!)

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    jah128;1454196

    Assume its] this one?Sassie - the "Find all threads containing posts by" … Assume its] this one?Sassie - the "Find all threads containing posts by" link on a users profile page still works (although I agree they should repair the other broken links!)



    your link didnt work

    Yes the one i have found is this, but i cant see anywhere where the op accepted anything:?

    hotukdeals.com/ite…e=3

    Original Poster

    yes its that one did online on post and if you see later she put sold now but dont know how to remove

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    angelfacexx;1454215

    yes its that one did online on post and if you see later she put sold now … yes its that one did online on post and if you see later she put sold now but dont know how to remove



    all offers and acceptance should be done on the boards, not helpful now, but future referrence. The op states hat games will be sent on receipt of traded games, so if its been a week then maybe ts on its way as we type, not sure you have actually been ripped off as yet

    you wouldn't be able to claim of royal mail anyway as they state it can take up to 15 days

    Please wait 15 working days (from the due date of delivery) before … Please wait 15 working days (from the due date of delivery) before completing this form as we would not consider an item as lost until 15 working days have elapsed. We allow the 15 working days for items to be returned to the sender if there are any delivery problems

    Oops managed to break the link when I edited it. Personally I'd give them a little longer - they haven't logged in to check pm so something might have happened, post is pretty terrible these days and it has been weekend, then presumably you have there address and details so you should be able to take further action if necessary.

    Do remember to make sure you post details of what you are actually trading in the thread in future though as otherwise we only have your word that a trade has been agreed...

    Original Poster

    yes ive just realise that i didnt put all on thread it is hard when they reply by pm and you just then reply to that but i must keep in mind for future referance also u state games will be sent when they recieve traded games supoose you send yours then they dont send theres where do u stand??? i did say they may be on there way but then also wanna know why hotdeals dont do much in if item is not recieved as ive purchased a couple of items off hotdeals for bargain prices then havent recieved item but ive managed to get my money back through paypal but why wont hotdeals deal with situations like this yet its there site

    Original Poster

    thanks for everyones help and ill let you know what happens !! i didnt realise you had to wait for them to recieve games first i thought it wwas you both send games out on same day lol

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    angelfacexx;1454259

    thanks for everyones help and ill let you know what happens !! i didnt … thanks for everyones help and ill let you know what happens !! i didnt realise you had to wait for them to recieve games first i thought it wwas you both send games out on same day lol



    it says on ther op how they would deal, as for why hukd doesnt get involved thats summat you will need to take up with admin, it will only get worse on there as time goes on, there are scammers evrywhere and having a board like the for sale board only encourages them

    markechapman;1454038

    can you name and shame?




    Here, here.

    I agree with the name and shame option.

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    kyalion;1454273

    Here, here.I agree with the name and shame option.



    and sadly this seller looks like they have been shamed already, and has done nothing wrong yet, it clearly states in the op that they will despatch their end when the traded game has been received, probably already despatched and lost in the post:roll:

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    angelfacexx;1454248

    yes ive just realise that i didnt put all on thread it is hard when they … yes ive just realise that i didnt put all on thread it is hard when they reply by pm and you just then reply to that but i must keep in mind for future referance also u state games will be sent when they recieve traded games supoose you send yours then they dont send theres where do u stand??? i did say they may be on there way but then also wanna know why hotdeals dont do much in if item is not recieved as ive purchased a couple of items off hotdeals for bargain prices then havent recieved item but ive managed to get my money back through paypal but why wont hotdeals deal with situations like this yet its there site


    I think you might find that, admin has put up the remit for safe trading, but thats as far as it goes, its all down to the seller and buyers being honest, and as you kow from the ammount of banned traders and posts of being ripped off etc, the forum is toppers with chancers and ripp off artists.
    My advice for what its worth, before I would buy off anyone and so far I have been lucky plus those who I have bought off have scruples, is do your home work, and then before you send your valuable item and your dealing with somone with no feedback/no ebay blah blah is it really worth it., only you can answer that question :-D

    angelfacexx;1454248

    but then also wanna know why hotdeals dont do much in if item is not … but then also wanna know why hotdeals dont do much in if item is not recieved as ive purchased a couple of items off hotdeals for bargain prices then havent recieved item but ive managed to get my money back through paypal but why wont hotdeals deal with situations like this yet its there site



    Because HUKD isn't an auction/trading site and the For Sale/Trading forum is nothing more than a free to use noticeboard. eBay on the other hand take a percentage of the money from each transaction, which in turn is used to employ staff and legal representatives to deal with such situations, but even they very rarely get involved in disputes (beyond sending standard e-mails) and actually do anything.

    angelfacexx;1454248

    yes ive just realise that i didnt put all on thread it is hard when they … yes ive just realise that i didnt put all on thread it is hard when they reply by pm and you just then reply to that but i must keep in mind for future referance also u state games will be sent when they recieve traded games supoose you send yours then they dont send theres where do u stand??? i did say they may be on there way but then also wanna know why hotdeals dont do much in if item is not recieved as ive purchased a couple of items off hotdeals for bargain prices then havent recieved item but ive managed to get my money back through paypal but why wont hotdeals deal with situations like this yet its there site


    Admin has stated several times that the F/S F/T section is monitered by the users. If it causes to many problems he'll just shut it down adter all its no skin of hin nose. He doesn't get anything from it but as it stands it takes ALOT of mod time which realistically could be used eles where

    Loads of people moan about how little the admin/mods do but in all honesty what can they do? There options are probably limited to sending an email to the registered email address and sending a PM using the PM system. They presumably can't use any other personal detail due to data protection laws etc. The FS/FT board is here to benefit the members and if members follow the guidelines and use commonsense trades should work out okay.

    angelface - You have their name, address and verified phone number so it should be straightforward to find out whats happened (is it still in post, lost in post or not sent) and sort it out...

    Give it till say Wednesday and if no response by then follow it up

    The posts above summarise our position in something like this and I've also been pm'ing with you angelfacexx. I don't mean to be blunt but this quote should be a warning to yourself: "ive purchased a couple of items off hotdeals for bargain prices then havent recieved item but ive managed to get my money back through paypal".

    As dog_cop says you're the only one who can make a decision of is it worth it to deal with someone without feedback etc. Personally I wouldn't take the risk and would only deal with someone with a good reputation and feedback or someone I know. If you decide you will take the risk of dealing with someone unknown then....

    Original Poster

    thanks for all the advice i do see from a wider angle i suppose hotdeals dont get paid like ebay so like said its just a posting board and you do have to rely on honest people and hopefully it is in post but i guess not everyone is on it everday like me lol and only go one every so often dont get me wrong i really love hot deals and have had some help from admin but you just get annoyed by scammers but i have learnt alot from this post (feedback etc) and at the end of the day im more wary so it has helped me and just wanna say i was moaning about admin not doing enough but then like said why should they,they dont get paid!!!

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    angelfacexx;1454380

    thanks for all the advice i do see from a wider angle i suppose hotdeals … thanks for all the advice i do see from a wider angle i suppose hotdeals dont get paid like ebay so like said its just a posting board and you do have to rely on honest people and hopefully it is in post but i guess not everyone is on it everday like me lol and only go one every so often dont get me wrong i really love hot deals and have had some help from admin but you just get annoyed by scammers but i have learnt alot from this post (feedback etc) and at the end of the day im more wary so it has helped me and just wanna say i was moaning about admin not doing enough but then like said why should they,they dont get paid!!!


    No offence, but someone needs to show you where the comma and period keys are. Your posts are difficult to read when you put 200 words in one sentence. Reminds me of that bird from little britain :-D

    BTW, admin most certainly get paid. The site makes big money from everyone clicking on the links (commission basis from retailers).

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    csiman;1454481

    BTW, admin most certainly get paid. The site makes big money from … BTW, admin most certainly get paid. The site makes big money from everyone clicking on the links (commission basis from retailers).



    not from the for sale board he doesnt, that is what angel was referring too

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    sassie;1454500

    not from the for sale board he doesnt, that is what angel was referring … not from the for sale board he doesnt, that is what angel was referring too


    Are you telepathic

    Original Poster

    yes didnt you know sassie is!!! that is what i meant and as for my commas etc its a board not a school

    At the end of the day, you need to do your own risk assessment on the site. The information provided, the way they have dealt with things, the pictures, the feedback on here and ebay. Buying anything is a risk, but buying it on here can be even more of a risk. You have to look at alot of things on here and ask is it just too much of a "bargain". This site is not guaranteed, it's just a 3rd party between you and a stranger.

    I do however think that the site is more or less safe...if your buying or selling. I don't really like trading and I think it leaves open alot of things that can't be sorted. Such as one person forgetting (or not able) to send on the same day you do. So, that means the other person that something arrive for "free" on the doorstep the next day...tempting not to the post the other part of the deal isn't it?

    However...give it a bit more time yet. All could work out fine.

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    angelfacexx;1454610

    yes didnt you know sassie is!!! that is what i meant and as for my commas … yes didnt you know sassie is!!! that is what i meant and as for my commas etc its a board not a school


    Then maybe you should have paid more attention when you were at one!

    My point is that you are asking for help and advice and to write a 100-200 word sentence is just plain bad manners. Have you ever tried reading your posts? They don't make a lot of sense so everyone has to re-read them.

    Life's too short mate, I'll add you to my "ignore" list. :whistling:
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