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    So my laptop is around 4 years old now and windows 10 basically ruined it (before anybody suggests anything, I've tried updating the drivers, tried a clean install of windows 10, tried checking for viruses, tried disabling all non-essential startup programs and uninstalled stuff I didn't need, it just always says the hard drive/disk space whatever it is is always full).

    I'm a second year college student going on to university next year. It would be nice to be able to carry it around with me (my current one is too big and heavy) as I tend to type a lot using google docs (

    I don't do much gaming (although I did use to play games on Facebook and used to play sims 4, minecraft, need for speed most wanted etc, none of which my computer could handle).

    I was looking at the Microsoft surfaces and apple MacBooks but to be honest I think they may be just overpriced and overhyped (like phones are). Price doesn't matter as I work (though below £1500 would be nice!) but there is no point buying something that is worse than something cheaper.

    In addition to this, my tablet and phone are apple ones so having a MacBook would ensure consistency. But, I looked at the specifications and like I said they seem very very overpriced and overhyped and I have no clue what they're actually like.

    I do dislike windows 10 but it is probably just because of my laptop and I'm not unwilling to give it another go. Though if I were to give it another go, the laptop would have to have windows 10 as it's original OS and not windows 8 (as all my family's laptops- minus 1- were like that and then had bad windows 10 upgrades/experiences).

    Storage doesn't matter as I will probably store most of my stuff on google docs, though I transfer the photos on my iPad and iPhone to the computer when I have to reset them. This doesn't take much storage though. I've heard that high storage makes the computer slower.

    So summary is:
    -pref decent graphics card
    -Above i3 as i9 has just been released, unless it can be proven decent enough
    -not a low amount of RAM
    -any amount of storage (pref below 1TB unless the computer isn't slowed down by it)
    -A price below £1500
    -Didn't originally have Windows 8 if it's a windows one

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    Dolphinzz

    So my laptop is around 4 years old now and windows 10 basically ruined it … So my laptop is around 4 years old now and windows 10 basically ruined it (before anybody suggests anything, I've tried updating the drivers, tried a clean install of windows 10, tried checking for viruses, tried disabling all non-essential startup programs and uninstalled stuff I didn't need, it just always says the hard drive/disk space whatever it is is always full)....


    From that description, it is probably user misunderstanding that has ruined Windows rather than Windows 10 itself. It may be more cost-effective to spend some time troubleshooting the "always full" issue rather than spend hard cash on a replacement device, but if you have simply decided that it is time to move on, then that is respected. Just consider that your current "always full" issue is likely not a direct result of W10, especially as you say you have completed a clean installation.

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    AndyRoyd

    From that description, it is probably user misunderstanding that has … From that description, it is probably user misunderstanding that has ruined Windows rather than Windows 10 itself. It may be more cost-effective to invest spend some time troubleshooting the "always full" issue rather than spend hard cash on a replacement device, but if you have simply decided that it is time to move on, then that is respected. Just consider that your current "always full" issue is likely not a direct result of W10, especially as you say you have completed a clean installation.



    But I never had the problem before I installed windows 10. I would downgrade but I'm worried about security

    Dolphinzz

    But I never had the problem before I installed windows 10. I would … But I never had the problem before I installed windows 10. I would downgrade but I'm worried about security


    Maybe we should ask a question: are you prepared to spend some exploritory time on the current issue, or do you just want to move on? I think you know that there are many folks on here that will try to assist you if you wish. Equally, your preference will be respected whatever your answer.

    Try a diifferent OS like chrome os stick it onto a usb and give it a try with your current lappy before shelling out more money

    Dual boot with Linux mint. Easy enough to install. All I use now on my pc. Sounds like you would get on well with a chrome book

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    AndyRoyd

    Maybe we should ask a question: are you prepared to spend some … Maybe we should ask a question: are you prepared to spend some exploritory time on the current issue, or do you just want to move on? I think you know that there are many folks on here that will try to assist you if you wish. Equally, your preference will be respected whatever your answer.



    I guess I'll try a bit more but I don't see what else I can do I've spent a guy of time trying to fix it already. Even checked for any memory problems. I guess next thing is to do a disk partition. Forgot to add, but I also did look for malware and did do a benchmark which was considerably low (quite significantly in graphics).

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    wayners

    Dual boot with Linux mint. Easy enough to install. All I use now on my … Dual boot with Linux mint. Easy enough to install. All I use now on my pc. Sounds like you would get on well with a chrome book



    Yup been considering it as it's what college uses but I'm worried about the lack of internal memory and the fact it can't be used offline. I regularly use my laptop to upload my music to iTunes so that wouldn't be possible if i got a chromebook

    If you upgraded to W10 and it kept your old installation files etc then that could account for the storage issue, this rings a bell for some reason.

    Dolphinzz

    -Above i3 as i9 has just been released, unless it can be proven decent … -Above i3 as i9 has just been released, unless it can be proven decent enough



    The power of marketing...

    The i9 processors are rebrands of Intel's middle sized workstation/server chip with a few features disabled. This is just a joint attempt to keep up in the PR stakes with AMD and explore the market for high performance chips without those feature enabled.

    The CPU range itself has been going for years now so I wouldn't expect the announcement to have any effect on laptop technology.

    Generally speaking the i3/i5/i7 branding isn't very significant to begin with. Of course the faster ones at the same power level are a bit faster, but it's usually by a fairly modest amount. For the most common laptop power level (15W TDP) an i7-7500U is only about 20% faster than an i3-7100U.

    Generally quality is a bigger factor in the price of a laptop than performance. A top of the range machine may be only 20-30% faster than a bottom of the range one but it's got a much higher quality screen, a keyboard you don't give up with in disgust after the third word, a larger battery, lighter materials and so on.

    GPUs are very power hungry right now, so getting anything near to a decent one in desktop terms in a laptop requires you to look at the heavier end of the scale, and gaming on battery never works very well. The latest integrated graphics should be capable of running facebook games, The Sims and minecraft at an enjoyable level though.

    Gaming machines also tend to come with Intel's higher power level laptop chips, the HQ suffix models.

    I would have a wander around your local shops and get an idea of what level of keyboard & screen quality you can live with and what sort of size and weight you'd prefer.

    Dolphinzz

    I guess I'll try a bit more but I don't see what else I can do I've … I guess I'll try a bit more but I don't see what else I can do I've spent a guy of time trying to fix it already. Even checked for any memory problems. I guess next thing is to do a disk partition. Forgot to add, but I also did look for malware and did do a benchmark which was considerably low (quite significantly in graphics).


    OK, let's do some very quick basic checks. You use some PC-related terms such as partition, so this request should be no issue to you (but I can expand if required):
    rightclick windows 10 icon, select "Disk Management"
    1) in the lower section of the window, how many "basic" disks are listed? (ignore any removable or optical disks)
    2) what are the overall sizes of the basic disks?
    3) for the disk that has the word "boot" appearing in its description, please list the number of partitions and the size of each partition
    4) for clarity, please confirm the size of the partition that contains "boot"
    5) looking at the upper part of the window: for the partition containing "boot", a) please state the "capacity", and b) please state "% Free".
    Thanks.

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    AndyRoyd

    OK, let's do some very quick basic checks. You use some PC-related terms … OK, let's do some very quick basic checks. You use some PC-related terms such as partition, so this request should be no issue to you (but I can expand if required): rightclick windows 10 icon, select "Disk Management" 1) in the lower section of the window, how many "basic" disks are listed? (ignore any removable or optical disks)2) what are the overall sizes of the basic disks?3) for the disk that has the word "boot" appearing in its description, please list the number of partitions and the size of each partition4) for clarity, please confirm the size of the partition that contains "boot" 5) looking at the upper part of the window: for the partition containing "boot", a) please state the "capacity", and b) please state "% Free".Thanks.



    I only know what partition means because of doing IT in college but I think I understand what you mean for each task, and definitely will when I go on my computer. Will go on it tomorrow as it's late now

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    AndyRoyd

    OK, let's do some very quick basic checks. You use some PC-related terms … OK, let's do some very quick basic checks. You use some PC-related terms such as partition, so this request should be no issue to you (but I can expand if required): rightclick windows 10 icon, select "Disk Management" 1) in the lower section of the window, how many "basic" disks are listed? (ignore any removable or optical disks)2) what are the overall sizes of the basic disks?3) for the disk that has the word "boot" appearing in its description, please list the number of partitions and the size of each partition4) for clarity, please confirm the size of the partition that contains "boot" 5) looking at the upper part of the window: for the partition containing "boot", a) please state the "capacity", and b) please state "% Free".Thanks.


    Sounds like he may have made 2 partitions?

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    WheresMeNuts

    Sounds like he may have made 2 partitions?



    I haven't done anything with partitioning yet haven't even looked into it. As far as I know there's only one drive on the computer, but I'll have a look later.

    Dolphinzz

    What's it like? Good for all needs?



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