Best preworkout for gym

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Posted 26th Jun
Thinking of stocking up for when the gym open again and was wondering what everyone’s favourite preworkout is?

I’ve tried loads of the years and quite enjoyed The Curse but I see a lot of people say it’s not that good.

What preworkout do you think is the best?
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@Jordan_Taylor will help you out
I’ve just been having a very strong black coffee for the past 2-3 months. Adding to that - when I used pre workouts in the past I usually cycle off them as to not build up a strong caffeine tolerance, might be why the black coffee is working well for me in the gym at the moment.
Edited by: "Kratos69" 26th Jun
If you enjoyed the curse then I Will change your life .

It's one of the worst.

First question is fella, what's your budget? And what do you want From it?

- heavy stimulants?
- good pumps
- good focus
- road map like veins
- nootropic feel? (Feel good, focus)

Etc etc

Feel sorry for the ones who Just use caffeine From a black coffee. caffeine is nothing but a afterthought in a good pre workout.

A good pre workout is so much more than caffeine, should be the last thing you look for .

Sadly the vast majority of popular ones aren't beyond terrible like the curse, C4, ON gold standard pre workout etc.

But yeah tell us what your looking for And I'll suggest a few
Edited by: "Jordan_Taylor" 26th Jun
Black coffee or a monster energy ultra white works for me
Edited by: "nisc1" 26th Jun
I have black coffee too
Caffeine, normally a pepsi max for me
I’m following this for tips
Toffee crisp and/ or a quarter pounder with fries
Seriously why buy some unproven/ untested/ unregulated snake oil?

Just get some injectable steroids which will actually work.
Cbear8126/06/2020 17:42

I have black coffee too


Black coffee has done me good for a while! I’ve had ore workouts before and they definitely have their place, I find with the type of workouts I do now I don’t need that mad buzz, just a little something to keep me pushing through. It’s person dependent I’d say as with all things gym, what works for one person might not work for the other . I had my first “proper” gym session last week and it felt good to be back! My little home setup hasn’t been too shabby though lol!
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Kratos6926/06/2020 18:27

Black coffee has done me good for a while! I’ve had ore workouts before a …Black coffee has done me good for a while! I’ve had ore workouts before and they definitely have their place, I find with the type of workouts I do now I don’t need that mad buzz, just a little something to keep me pushing through. It’s person dependent I’d say as with all things gym, what works for one person might not work for the other . I had my first “proper” gym session last week and it felt good to be back! My little home setup hasn’t been too shabby though lol!


I’ve always had black coffee.. when I PT he told me to have it before. Always had it since .:. I’ve been doing my workouts all through lockdown nothing else to do when not working
Cbear8126/06/2020 18:29

I’ve always had black coffee.. when I PT he told me to have it before. A …I’ve always had black coffee.. when I PT he told me to have it before. Always had it since .:. I’ve been doing my workouts all through lockdown nothing else to do when not working


Yeah the coffee is always a good shout, again it depends on your training methods I’d say. Tell me about it, I managed to get a couple of bits pre lockdown as I kind of saw what was coming with gyms closing. A friend of mine has a gym and we’ve been going there for the past couple of weeks and just doing a couple of workouts. Can’t wait to get back to ot
properly now!
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 18:29

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Ah mate honestly I’ve tried a ton of them lol! Cellucor, Arnold pump, mutant, nothing extraordinary, just your run of the mill pres. I like the pump, luckily I get extremely vascular, I often use a GDA so that defo helps. Arnold pump was amazing for pumps, literally did nothing else but I could pretty much see every vein in my body lol.
Edited by: "Kratos69" 26th Jun
Kratos6926/06/2020 18:32

Yeah the coffee is always a good shout, again it depends on your training …Yeah the coffee is always a good shout, again it depends on your training methods I’d say. Tell me about it, I managed to get a couple of bits pre lockdown as I kind of saw what was coming with gyms closing. A friend of mine has a gym and we’ve been going there for the past couple of weeks and just doing a couple of workouts. Can’t wait to get back to otproperly now!


Just running at min. I’ve got few weights in the house which I use and kettle bells, but not as good as the ones in the gym. Waiting for them to open back up tbh.
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 18:22

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I'm not doing this argument either just saying if people want gains steroids is the best option.
Cbear8126/06/2020 18:34

Just running at min. I’ve got few weights in the house which I use and k …Just running at min. I’ve got few weights in the house which I use and kettle bells, but not as good as the ones in the gym. Waiting for them to open back up tbh.


I think it will be another month or so, can’t be that much longer they have hung it out more that enough.
Kratos6926/06/2020 18:36

I think it will be another month or so, can’t be that much longer they h …I think it will be another month or so, can’t be that much longer they have hung it out more that enough.


Yeah they’re open bars before the gyms very logic lol (not)
666FU26/06/2020 18:35

I'm not doing this argument either just saying if people want gains …I'm not doing this argument either just saying if people want gains steroids is the best option.


No one is taking a pre workout for gains though haha
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 18:37

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Haha I know, I fully agree they are trash, I don’t know much about pres, I’ve never really looked too far into them. I think you’ve said about that before I should have it bookmarked, Currently use glycobol or slin-rx.
Waste of money with barely any scientific evidence behind claims on the label.

I suggest a blog/podcast by one of the sports dietitians (Australia)
Thinking nutrition.

He has a section on sports supplements
mtsk26/06/2020 18:53

Waste of money with barely any scientific evidence behind claims on the …Waste of money with barely any scientific evidence behind claims on the label.I suggest a blog/podcast by one of the sports dietitians (Australia)Thinking nutrition.He has a section on sports supplements


Yeah that's not true.

Ingredient panels don't lie

And if you want a podcast done by respected people in the industry them kort cooper and Dino tassigiannis have the hive XL podcast.

Richard foster has Strom cast who has had Dr Dean, Dave crosland, Dr Christopher Matthews And more
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But I will listen to your podcast you mentioned as I'll allways listen to an argument From both sides
Edited by: "Jordan_Taylor" 26th Jun
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 19:26

Yeah that's not true.Ingredient panels don't lieAnd if you want a podcast …Yeah that's not true.Ingredient panels don't lieAnd if you want a podcast done by respected people in the industry them kort cooper and Dino tassigiannis have the hive XL podcast.Richard foster has Strom cast who has had Dr Dean, Dave crosland, Dr Christopher Matthews And more[Image] But I will listen to your podcast you mentioned as I'll allways listen to an argument From both sides


What’s a decent pwo for pump/energy? Concentrated, not that natural
I'm sorry but bodybuilder talking about nutrition is not an authority in fact until he obtains a PhD in a subject then I will look at his research and what he has to say.
Christopher Matthews specialises in sociology, not nutrition.
Dave crossland... PhD at Google university at best
Kort Cooper... I bet he doesn't even have a levels
So of all those people you have mentioned how many have any applicable qualifications?
How many of the are in front of an poster or an adver of a supplement, how many are not trying to sell you something


Ps. There is no both sides... There is what can be proven by science
Edited by: "mtsk" 26th Jun
Zero.Chill26/06/2020 19:47

What’s a decent pwo for pump/energy? Concentrated, not that natural


Depends hkw much you want to spend
If you want something bare bones then I put up a entry level usn pre workout for£15.01 but the good stuff would be the mvpre deal I put up, that stuff is Great.

I really like stimumax pro I like for power lifting And Olympic type training, it's good energy and focus, dialed in and clear.
Pump is alright too, not intrusive on your lifts.
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 19:54

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So questioning someone's qualification is childish?

You act like every covidiot and antivaxer
mtsk26/06/2020 19:55

So questioning someone's qualification is childish?You act like every …So questioning someone's qualification is childish?You act like every covidiot and antivaxer


"Kort cooper I bet he doesn't have a levels"
Dave crossland Google university
Etc

Yeah getting childish

And no evidence to claims? Ingredients And doses don't lie, plenty of studies out there for whatever you want ingredient wise.
But ofc you Will write these off because the supplement industry is full of evil snake oil sellers.

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What part of this label is bs?

I can explain every ingredient if you want
Edited by: "Jordan_Taylor" 26th Jun
mtsk26/06/2020 19:49

I'm sorry but bodybuilder talking about nutrition is not an authority in …I'm sorry but bodybuilder talking about nutrition is not an authority in fact until he obtains a PhD in a subject then I will look at his research and what he has to say.Christopher Matthews specialises in sociology, not nutrition. Dave crossland... PhD at Google university at best Kort Cooper... I bet he doesn't even have a levels So of all those people you have mentioned how many have any applicable qualifications?How many of the are in front of an poster or an adver of a supplement, how many are not trying to sell you somethingPs. There is no both sides... There is what can be proven by science


I don’t agree with all of what you’ve said but part of it. While not taking sides or stirring a pot, on paper I don’t have a PHD in nutrition but I’m pretty certain I am in better shape than 99% of “scientists” that do.
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 20:04

"Kort cooper I bet he doesn't have a levels"Dave crossland Google …"Kort cooper I bet he doesn't have a levels"Dave crossland Google universityEtcYeah getting childishAnd no evidence to claims? Ingredients And doses don't lie, plenty of studies out there for whatever you want ingredient wise. But ofc you Will write these off because the supplement industry is full of evil snake oil sellers.[Image] What part of this label is bs?I can explain every ingredient if you want


What is that label suppose to tell me? Does it have actual scientific studies attached to it?

Btw 4 ingredients have some small evidence of marginal performance improvement
Edited by: "mtsk" 26th Jun
Kratos6926/06/2020 20:25

I don’t agree with all of what you’ve said but part of it. While not tak …I don’t agree with all of what you’ve said but part of it. While not taking sides or stirring a pot, on paper I don’t have a PHD in nutrition but I’m pretty certain I am in better shape than 99% of “scientists” that do.


Imagine an areoengineer being dismissed about science of aerodynamics because he can't fly a plane ... Just because they can't fly the plane or do it worse than someone else doesn't mean they are wrong. in fact quite the opposite
Edited by: "mtsk" 26th Jun
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 20:51

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Then you shouldn't have a problem to provide evidence for use of turmeric which is on this list
Donner kebab and chips with coke.
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 17:34

If you enjoyed the curse then I Will change your life .It's one of …If you enjoyed the curse then I Will change your life .It's one of the worst.First question is fella, what's your budget? And what do you want From it?- heavy stimulants?- good pumps- good focus- road map like veins- nootropic feel? (Feel good, focus)Etc etcFeel sorry for the ones who Just use caffeine From a black coffee. caffeine is nothing but a afterthought in a good pre workout.A good pre workout is so much more than caffeine, should be the last thing you look for .Sadly the vast majority of popular ones aren't beyond terrible like the curse, C4, ON gold standard pre workout etc.But yeah tell us what your looking for And I'll suggest a few


Hey!

Looking for good energy and a good pump. I usually go in the morning so something to really get me going and blasting through heavier weights and more reps each week or two would be great. Looking to bulk in the next month or so.

Thanks
A medley of CT Fletcher YouTube vids. I’m mean cmon if you ain’t pumped after 20mins of commanding your muscles to grow what is gonna do it for ya
mtsk26/06/2020 21:25

Then you shouldn't have a problem to provide evidence for use of turmeric …Then you shouldn't have a problem to provide evidence for use of turmeric which is on this list


Cool, I will do
jamiew2327/06/2020 09:06

Hey!Looking for good energy and a good pump. I usually go in the morning …Hey!Looking for good energy and a good pump. I usually go in the morning so something to really get me going and blasting through heavier weights and more reps each week or two would be great. Looking to bulk in the next month or so.Thanks


hotukdeals.com/dea…943
Lowest I've seen it, really good all in one

t-nutrition.com/pro…fib

Has more of a nootropic feel, nice pump very clean, 10% off if you buy before the end of June as it's 10% off £30 basket.
hr labs themselves They did do 2 samples delivered for £2 but you'd probably have to message if he's got any spare

I really like stimumax pro as well, it's a favourite with alot of the power lifting community. There is a stronger one called stimumax black edition but I prefer pro because of the alpha GPC (you can get a sample tub From Strom sports for like £7)

Tried to suggest ones that don't Just rely on a novel stimulant because having a good focus, pump, nootropic side to a panel I feel is better. (you'll still be wired)
mtsk27/06/2020 09:31

I'll wait patiently for your cherry picked study


*Goes by Just the opinion of Dr Tim Crowe

After listening to 6 episodes of his podcast he hasn't discredited any of the ingredients I recommend either and I agree with him on what he's spoken about so far.
Edited by: "Jordan_Taylor" 27th Jun
Jordan_Taylor26/06/2020 18:42

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Sorry to jump in mate but what clinically dosed pre workout can you get for the same price as c4
knighty1YNWA27/06/2020 09:38

Sorry to jump in mate but what clinically dosed pre workout can you get …Sorry to jump in mate but what clinically dosed pre workout can you get for the same price as c4


SPARTA KRAKEN PRE WORKOUT
4 GRAMS OF CITRULLINE
3.2 GRAMS OF BETA-ALANINE
2 GRAMS OF HYDROMAX® GLYCEROL
1 GRAM OF TAURINE
500MG OF N-ACETYL L-TYROSINE
300MG OF VASO-6™
250MG OF TEACRINE® (40% TASTELESS)
250MG CAFFEINE
50MG OF THEOBROMINE
30MG OF TYRAMINE HCL
15MG OF COCOA SEED EXTRACT
£16.95?
Jordan_Taylor27/06/2020 09:32

https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/innovapharm-mvpre-20-pre-workout-3491943Lowest I've seen it, really good all in onehttps://www.t-nutrition.com/products/hr-labs-defibHas more of a nootropic feel, nice pump very clean, 10% off if you buy before the end of June as it's 10% off £30 basket. hr labs themselves They did do 2 samples delivered for £2 but you'd probably have to message if he's got any spareI really like stimumax pro as well, it's a favourite with alot of the power lifting community. There is a stronger one called stimumax black edition but I prefer pro because of the alpha GPC (you can get a sample tub From Strom sports for like £7)Tried to suggest ones that don't Just rely on a novel stimulant because having a good focus, pump, nootropic side to a panel I feel is better. (you'll still be wired)


Wow you know your stuff. Thanks so much! I’ll get MVPRE. Never heard of that one before but looking forward to trying something new
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