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    blu ray quality???? is this what I should expect

    hi all,

    my other half got a panasonic blupay player to link in with his Panasonic viera 1080p tv. We put in a fairly old dvd, point break which has been played lots, and it was grainy....

    we've just watched Surf's up - Blu ray edition and the whole time it moved between grainy and HD quality??? is this how the film was made...or is there a problem with the blu ray player

    I half expected a TV quality when playing normal dvd, but expeted far higher when using an actual blu ray disk

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    sounds like there is a problem somewhere.. what are you cables like between you blu ray and your tv...

    Have you got good connections to cables & are they good quality

    Original Poster

    please do not go there on the cable I was up for buying a £10 one and was quite swiftly put in my place and told I must spend £60 to get the absolute quality.....so i would only hope so...otherwise hubby will be in hot water!!!

    the quality on the surfs up was hit and miss, certainly a disappointment, however at times it was v good others grainy...but I though it upscales so playing a normal dvd would be as good as tv at least...but certainly not the case....

    I dont know the make of the cables, but the guy at the shop, had various ones and these he receommend to get the A++++ top viewing quality...

    so any comments, as i'm bitterly disappointed, and after the who are about this piece of machinery, i think my hubby is too

    give the set time to bed in, might take a few days to get best quality

    2. the factory settings on most LCDs are pants, panasonic are very dull, you need to turn the backlight up, colour up a bit and fiddle for a while w different settings or look on google for the optimum settings and use that as a guide, also go into the settings on your bluray player you may get better results by changing one or two settings

    the fact that you are seeing the grain is because the picture simulates the look of a film accurately, you will get grain on most films, see here forum.blu-ray.com/sho…374

    Just so you know, Surfs Up is deliberately grainy in places. It is supposed to make it look like a documentary. Watch something like Wall-e or even The Dark Knight to see how good blu-ray is.

    Regarding cables - because the signal from the blu-ray player to your HDTV is digital, a cheaper cable would have been fine. The average person would not be able to tell the difference between a £10 HDMI cable and a £100 cable. You only really need high quality cables when using an analogue connection such as scart.

    If you still have your receipt for the HDMI cable I would suggest that you get a refund and buy a cheaper one.

    Ps. You may want to visit avforums.com to see what the best settings for your TV are.

    Cars or sunshine are fantastic films to show off the quality of picture you can get from bluray on a good tv.

    I dont know about your specific model but most HD TVs have a sharpness setting which when set on high only makes grain twice as bad as it actually is,

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    millw00d;4021871

    Just so you know, Surfs Up is deliberately grainy in places. It is … Just so you know, Surfs Up is deliberately grainy in places. It is supposed to make it look like a documentary. Watch something like Wall-e or even The Dark Knight to see how good blu-ray is. Regarding cables - because the signal from the blu-ray player to your HDTV is digital, a cheaper cable would have been fine. The average person would not be able to tell the difference between a £10 HDMI cable and a £100 cable. You only really need high quality cables when using an analogue connection such as scart.If you still have your receipt for the HDMI cable I would suggest that you get a refund and buy a cheaper one. Ps. You may want to visit avforums.com to see what the best settings for your TV are.


    Correct. You only need to spend a max of £10 on a cable. Whoever told you otherwise was talking rubbish and owes you £50 ;-)

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    tonyg1962;4022410

    I dont know about your specific model but most HD TVs have a sharpness … I dont know about your specific model but most HD TVs have a sharpness setting which when set on high only makes grain twice as bad as it actually is,


    yep - sharpness should be on zero.

    Original Poster

    I think we were recommend to get the expensive cable was because I am running viera through it....

    my other half knows more about these things, but is this true or are they spinning yarns at the shop


    Thanks for all your comments, I did get the impression that the surfs up was grainy in places, just some areas where I didnt think it should be were, I will try Cars, as the demo disk seemed to be okay

    Thanks again and any suggestion are still welcome

    Original Poster

    well we've checked the cables and compared a dvd in both our xbox360 and the blu ray player, I'm not sure if I should get a better picture with the blu ray player, since it upscales, but I dont.

    However the disk that came with the blur ray seems fine.

    But it is certainly not giving half as good picture as we expected, or were told we would get

    gotta throw in a lol at the 60 quid cable!

    Some films do end up with grainy moments... usually down to how it was shot (Band of Brothers has some grainy moments on the shots done at night/in buildings with low light, but shots done in daytime/cgi are spot on).

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    kungfu;4028941

    gotta throw in a lol at the 60 quid cable!



    Perhaps you could recommend a decent cable...so that I do not need to spend £60 - the player and cable are going back tomorrow -since they are quite clearly not working as they should

    Can deal with grainy moments, but general quality is not up to it. Our old hd player and xbox play better

    tlck9;4029255

    Perhaps you could recommend a decent cable...so that I do not need to … Perhaps you could recommend a decent cable...so that I do not need to spend £60 - the player and cable are going back tomorrow -since they are quite clearly not working as they shouldCan deal with grainy moments, but general quality is not up to it. Our old hd player and xbox play better



    been reading around, you'd best off with a good quality upscaler or decent standard dvd player for standard def footage, the BD35 is known for this, it's a good SD picture, but can be beaten

    hdmi, go here if you want a cheap cable ebay Item number: 110335277909
    amazon marketplace have a good few cheap ones too

    Have you checked to see if your player has the most up to date filmware? The most recent update is 22/12/2008.

    As for HDMI cables at this level most cheap ones will be fine. If you are or plan to use Dolby trueHD or DTS HD then you need it to be HDMI 1.3 Specification. I suggest you don't buy from ebay unless you are buying a branded boxed product.

    Try this: ]http//ww…tml

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    AugQX;4029352

    been reading around, you'd best off with a good quality upscaler or … been reading around, you'd best off with a good quality upscaler or decent standard dvd player for standard def footage



    to be honest he is after HD quality - having bought at the time the 1080p Panasonic LCD he went down the road of the HD player, but they scrapped it a week or two after buying one, so that went back

    So he has been wanting and looking for a decent HD replacement, quality is a big thing....and having been told that this panasonic beat the ps3 for quality that is the route we took

    we'll see what the shop says when we take it back to be checked

    I have ]this cable and it's great! It's a shame you're not getting the picture quality you expect, I do agree with millw00d, you should check avforums for recomended picture settings for your TV, that will probably improve things at least a bit :thumbsup:

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    RickyBobby;4035337

    I have ]this cable and it's great! It's a shame you're not getting the … I have ]this cable and it's great! It's a shame you're not getting the picture quality you expect, I do agree with millw00d, you should check avforums for recomended picture settings for your TV, that will probably improve things at least a bit :thumbsup:



    cheers for that, will take a look

    fingers crossed we get it sorted

    avsforum.com/avs…316

    Shows Surfs Up as Demo Quality - Gold 1.0 so you should get very good results from it once you tweak your TV settings.

    Original Poster

    thanks for your help on this...we had an engineer out today to check it, as they tested it at the shop and it was spot on apparently

    when the engineer came out he said it did look grainy, and agreed that although there were parts on the film that were, the other bits were not right....he adjusted some settings on the tv

    but it is slightly better but not by much...
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