Found 5th Dec 2009
Ok, im getting a 720p T v for christmas and want to be able to watch blu-rays.

I could get a Blu-ray player or for a bit more a PS3. Im not too bothered about gaming on it because im a 360 player.

so which would be better to get?

is the PS3 loud when its on compared to a Blu-ray player and is there a difference in blu-ray quality and upscaling capability?

Thank You

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ps3, it will have a 250gb hard drive and can download HD pictures.

and you can watch bbc iplayer on your tv via the ps3 for free.

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The bluray, bbc I player really isn't that good. You can always hook a pc/laptop up to the tv anyway and watch 4OD, BBC I etc etc.... BBC iplayer will probably be on xbox eventually so not worth buying a PS3 just for HD pictures and this

You can also stream your media (films, music & photos) from your pc via wireless network if you have one or if you plug a memory stick with films, music & photos on it , it will play them. Also Sony updates the firmware of the ps3 so it is always the latest blu ray player wheras not all blu ray players have this ability. Then if children visit, you can keep them occupied with the games capability. It is really quite versitile. So get the PS3!

Sloth/Mod

If you are not bothered about gaming on it then get a Blu-Ray player...........much more reliable.

garbage456;7121270

ps3 so you can update it !!!!!!



you can update the new blu ray players by wirless connection !!!!

I have a PS3 , but am currently looking for a stand alone blu ray player

the stand alone will have better picture and will be miles quieter

ive narrowed it down to the sony bdp s360 , which is £130 with 3 free blu rays on play.com ( good films as well ) the 360 got 5* review in what hi-fi ( although it is sony biased)

or the onkyo DV-BD606 which i found for £199


DEFO stand alone mate if you aint bothered for games

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RudiBryson;7121392

you can update the new blu ray players by wirless connection !!!!I have a … you can update the new blu ray players by wirless connection !!!!I have a PS3 , but am currently looking for a stand alone blu ray playerthe stand alone will have better picture and will be miles quieterive narrowed it down to the sony bdp [COLOR="Red"]s360[/COLOR] , which is £130 with 3 free blu rays on play.com ( good films as well ) the 360 got 5* review in what hi-fi ( although it is sony biased)or the onkyo DV-BD606 which i found for £199DEFO stand alone mate if you aint bothered for games



Ironic :-D

RudiBryson;7121392

you can update the new blu ray players by wirless connection !!!!I have a … you can update the new blu ray players by wirless connection !!!!I have a PS3 , but am currently looking for a stand alone blu ray playerthe stand alone will have better picture and will be miles quieterive narrowed it down to the sony bdp s360 , which is £130 with 3 free blu rays on play.com ( good films as well ) the 360 got 5* review in what hi-fi ( although it is sony biased)or the onkyo DV-BD606 which i found for £199DEFO stand alone mate if you aint bothered for games



how will it have a better pic than the ps3 is that not rubbish is the only diffrence maybe loading times?

no , the ps3 will have better loading times , a dedicated blu ray player will have a better picture .

Read plenty of reviews before you buy

Also something to bare in mind , a standalone such as s360 is hackable , so you can watch multi region dvds , you cant do this on the ps3

RudiBryson;7121519

no , the ps3 will have better loading times , a dedicated blu ray player … no , the ps3 will have better loading times , a dedicated blu ray player will have a better picture .Read plenty of reviews before you buy



alright well i am honestly shocked by that i thought the ps3 pic would be as good i will need to think twice then as i was going to sell my 60gb to get a new one so i can get true hd when i buy all the stuff av receiver etc.
i am really shocked by that

Original Poster

cheers for the advice guys. think ill go with the blu-ray player

yeap, the ps3 is the obvious choice here, as its quiet, small and you can update it.
what hifi call it the best blu-prayer on the market

tonico;7121597

alright well i am honestly shocked by that i thought the ps3 pic would be … alright well i am honestly shocked by that i thought the ps3 pic would be as good i will need to think twice then as i was going to sell my 60gb to get a new one so i can get true hd when i buy all the stuff av receiver etc.i am really shocked by that



hes talking ****, the ps3s picture is actually the best, because of the setting, i,e superwhite etc

tony_dudz;7121787

hes talking ****, the ps3s picture is actually the best, because of the … hes talking ****, the ps3s picture is actually the best, because of the setting, i,e superwhite etc



yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the world

Then they bring out stand alone blu ray players for up to £2000


yea im talking *****


what a tit

I had both, a PS3 and a Panasonic Blu Ray player.

Originally the PS3 was the cheapest way to get a descent Blu Ray Player but now that's not the case.

The picture is better on the Panasonic and is also fully updateable.

Sold the PS3 and kept the Panasonic Blu Ray player, kids play games on the 360.

A dedicated machine will always be better than a multi tasking machine.

If games aren't important then get a dedicated player, plenty of choice and cheaper than a PS3 in most cases.

RudiBryson;7121828

yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the … yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the worldThen they bring out stand alone blu ray players for up to £2000yea im talking *****what a tit



Hes not wanting a £2000 he wants one thats cheaper than the PS3 you tit.

ryman1000;7121261

The bluray, bbc I player really isn't that good. You can always hook a … The bluray, bbc I player really isn't that good. You can always hook a pc/laptop up to the tv anyway and watch 4OD, BBC I etc etc.... BBC iplayer will probably be on xbox eventually so not worth buying a PS3 just for HD pictures and this



BBC said they won't be any time soon because Microsoft want to charge for it (GOLD or maybe more).

so is the pic diffrence really that much diffrent?

Original Poster

Also is there much difference in upscaling capability?

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ignore rudi. hes talking out his backside

pic quality is superb on the ps3

no idea what you mean by 'loud'!

your TV will actually downscale the ps3 1080p picture output

ps3 holds 80% of its value after 1 year

blu-ray player holds 30-40% of its value after 1 year

ps3 plays divx, photos, mp3s, dvd, bd etc

blu-ray player just plays bd.

you'd be mad to ignore a ps3

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05jamhad;7122311

Also is there much difference in upscaling capability?


blu-ray is higer resolution than 720p so your new TV will be downscaling

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RudiBryson;7121828

yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the … yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the worldThen they bring out stand alone blu ray players for up to £2000yea im talking *****


at least you acknowledge the fact you are talking *****

Really ?
Well here are just a few comments from people on AV forums , which is a specialist site on av equipment

" Re: PS3 vs Stand Alone bd player
I just completed a back to back comparison of my ps3 and my pioneer lx71 player. I was a bit wary of doing it as I paid £500 for the player. Luckily there was clearly a world of difference, colours were more saturated and contrast was far better. A techy friend thought so too. I am really pleased. I just saw the pioneer for £352 in my local comet without box or remote. "


" Re: PS3 vs Stand Alone bd player
As far as i understand it, a single input on the screen, input one, was isf calibrated. This input is the only one I use as the HDMI from the amp goes to it.
I now have a ISF setting on the screen which I use all the time. It has its settings fixed so no one can fiddle.
In this setting, everything looks better then when the screen is on user or dynamic or pure or whatever.
When I switch the amp from the PS3 to the blueray, [COLOR="Red"]the same disc looks miles better[/COLOR]. "


[COLOR="Red"]THIS IS FROM WHAT-HIFI[/COLOR]

So far so impressive. What about quality? In essence, it's the same as before, which is to say very good for what it is.

Sure, in outright quality terms, the PS3's picture doesn't quite stand comparison with a cheaper dedicated BD player like Sony's BDP-S360: playing both Blu-rays and DVDs, you'll notice slight losses in clarity, low-light detail and stability.

But we think that's acceptable given the breath of the new console's abilities: in fairness, a dedicated Blu-ray player is lousy as a games console. So, five stars it is.



LINK
whathifi.com/Rev…im/

csiman;7125584

blu-ray is higer resolution than 720p so your new TV will be downscaling



OMG clueless or what , not ALL blu rays are 1080p , some are 720p , a lot of ps3 games are also only 720p .

lol , any 1 who takes your limited knowledge on the subject would be rather stupid .

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RudiBryson;7173071

[COLOR="Red"]THIS IS FROM WHAT-HIFI[/COLOR]So far so impressive. What … [COLOR="Red"]THIS IS FROM WHAT-HIFI[/COLOR]So far so impressive. What about quality? In essence, it's the same as before, which is to say very good for what it is.Sure, in outright quality terms, the PS3's picture doesn't quite stand comparison with a cheaper dedicated BD player like Sony's BDP-S360: playing both Blu-rays and DVDs, you'll notice slight losses in clarity, low-light detail and stability.But we think that's acceptable given the breath of the new console's abilities: in fairness, a dedicated Blu-ray player is lousy as a games console. So, five stars it is.LINKhttp://www.whathifi.com/Review/Sony-PS3-Slim/




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csiman;7125584

blu-ray is higer resolution than 720p so your new TV will be downscaling



He is asking about UPSCALING DVDS , and that is your answer , OMG !!!!! lol

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RudiBryson;7173113

OMG clueless or what , not ALL blu rays are 1080p , some are 720p , a … OMG clueless or what , not ALL blu rays are 1080p , some are 720p , a lot of ps3 games are also only 720p .lol , any 1 who takes your limited knowledge on the subject would be rather stupid .


DOH! Did I say they were all 1080p or even mention ps3 games :roll:

The fact remains that the ops tv is 720p so I was correcting them when they kept mentioning upscaling capabilities of a ps3 / BR player. Get your info straight next time.

And you call me clueless, Jeez! :whistling: Now who's the one looking rather dumb................

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ps3 Vs Standalone


Standalone Wins Easy , End Of Your Argument

To Me Csiman Looks A Tad Clueless

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bojanbazelli;7173159

ps3 Vs StandaloneStandalone Wins Easy , End Of Your ArgumentTo Me Csiman … ps3 Vs StandaloneStandalone Wins Easy , End Of Your ArgumentTo Me Csiman Looks A Tad Clueless


lol - where did I say anything to the contrary apart from the ps3 will have a far better resale value and that the ps3 is a a far better media server? :whistling:

its quite simple yes

stand alone dedicated blu ray player is outright winner
FACT

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Alfonse;7173223

its quite simple yes stand alone dedicated blu ray player is outright … its quite simple yes stand alone dedicated blu ray player is outright winnerFACT



It's a fact that every standalone is better than the PS3?:?

FilthAndFurry;7173243

It's a fact that every standalone is better than the PS3?:?



yep and you can;t change my mind oh unless of course you have had the kit i have been through.

as I said yesterday I'm now using the Sony BDP-S5000ES

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Alfonse;7173254

yep and you can;t change my mind oh unless of course you have had the kit … yep and you can;t change my mind oh unless of course you have had the kit i have been through.as I said yesterday I'm now using the Sony BDP-S5000ES



But every single standalone is better than the PS3? I'm no expert but that seems unlikely:?

I'm sure that your £1k kit does a better job though.

FilthAndFurry;7173286

But every single standalone is better than the PS3? I'm no expert but … But every single standalone is better than the PS3? I'm no expert but that seems unlikely:?I'm sure that your £1k kit does a better job though.



whathifi.com/Rev…im/

*
For
As impressively flexible as ever, but now sleeker and quieter than before; more storage space than older models; now outputs bitstream HD audio
*
Against
Still not quite the equal of a dedicated BD player


seems to be a common opinion

csiman;7173201

lol - where did I say anything to the contrary apart from the ps3 will … lol - where did I say anything to the contrary apart from the ps3 will have a far better resale value and that the ps3 is a a far better media server? :whistling:





Hmmmm here >> tiny.cc/her…783

some are your facts of there are funny. such as "[COLOR="Red"]ps3 plays divx, photos, mp3s, dvd, bd etc[/COLOR]"
" [COLOR="Red"]blu-ray player just plays bd[/COLOR] "

Because thats another point , some of the better stand alone players have CD playback capability almost as good as a dedicated "quality" CD player , they nearly all play divx , photos,mp3s,dvd etc . limited knowledge you show

ryman1000;7121261

The bluray, bbc I player really isn't that good. You can always hook a … The bluray, bbc I player really isn't that good. You can always hook a pc/laptop up to the tv anyway and watch 4OD, BBC I etc etc.... BBC iplayer will probably be on xbox eventually so not worth buying a PS3 just for HD pictures and this


The BBC iPlayer on PS3 is great, i view it on a 42" LG Plasma and the image is equivalent to freeview that is built in.

RudiBryson;7121519

no , the ps3 will have better loading times , a dedicated blu ray player … no , the ps3 will have better loading times , a dedicated blu ray player will have a better picture .Read plenty of reviews before you buy


Wow...really? No...Some expensive models may do, but obviously factor in what else you can do.

tonico;7121597

alright well i am honestly shocked by that i thought the ps3 pic would be … alright well i am honestly shocked by that i thought the ps3 pic would be as good i will need to think twice then as i was going to sell my 60gb to get a new one so i can get true hd when i buy all the stuff av receiver etc.i am really shocked by that


It is as good. TrueHD is sound only though remember, but is so good!

RudiBryson;7121828

yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the … yea thats why sony make a ps3 for £300 , the BEST blu ray player in the worldThen they bring out stand alone blu ray players for up to £2000yea im talking *****what a tit


£2000? were not after reference players!

csiman;7125581

ignore rudi. hes talking out his backsidepic quality is superb on the … ignore rudi. hes talking out his backsidepic quality is superb on the ps3no idea what you mean by 'loud'!your TV will actually downscale the ps3 1080p picture outputps3 holds 80% of its value after 1 yearblu-ray player holds 30-40% of its value after 1 yearps3 plays divx, photos, mp3s, dvd, bd etcblu-ray player just plays bd.you'd be mad to ignore a ps3



Couldnt agree more, picture quality is amazing and compared to a sharp bluray player and a sony £200 model id say the ps3 was easily equal, and better then the sharp player.
Think by loud means someone hasnt set up their tv correctly...


PS3 when it first came out was one of the cheapest and also one of the best bluray players, now i agree a standalone player will be much better if you plan on only playing blurays, but also do your homework on which player, as not all players are that good.
But if you might stream stuff from the internet, use iplayer, stream over network, play a couple of exclusives, then a ps3 is a very good choice.

I originally bought my ps3 as i sold my HD-DVD player and wanted Blu-Ray, and I am not disappointed, and to be honest the PS3 is just getting better with the updates, ie VidZone, iPlayer, then realised how much better it was at streaming over a network then the 360, especially as it has built in wireless too.

RudiBryson;7173354

Hmmmm here http://tiny.cc/here783some are your facts of there are funny. … Hmmmm here >> http://tiny.cc/here783some are your facts of there are funny. such as "[COLOR="Red"]ps3 plays divx, photos, mp3s, dvd, bd etc[/COLOR]"" [COLOR="Red"]blu-ray player just plays bd[/COLOR] "Because thats another point , some of the better stand alone players have CD playback capability almost as good as a dedicated "quality" CD player , they nearly all play divx , photos,mp3s,dvd etc . limited knowledge you show


some, but not a great deal that ive seen. But the other thing is they no way are almost as good as a dedicated cd player!
Damn you need to get a new set up if thats what you believe!

the ps3 is a cool machine don't get me wrong, its just not up to my needs for my cinema system and my need for a good blu ray/cinema experience.

RudiBryson;7173071

Really ?Well here are just a few comments from people on AV forums , … Really ?Well here are just a few comments from people on AV forums , which is a specialist site on av equipment" Re: PS3 vs Stand Alone bd playerI just completed a back to back comparison of my ps3 and my pioneer lx71 player. I was a bit wary of doing it as I paid £500 for the player. Luckily there was clearly a world of difference, colours were more saturated and contrast was far better. A techy friend thought so too. I am really pleased. I just saw the pioneer for £352 in my local comet without box or remote. "" Re: PS3 vs Stand Alone bd playerAs far as i understand it, a single input on the screen, input one, was isf calibrated. This input is the only one I use as the HDMI from the amp goes to it.I now have a ISF setting on the screen which I use all the time. It has its settings fixed so no one can fiddle.In this setting, everything looks better then when the screen is on user or dynamic or pure or whatever.When I switch the amp from the PS3 to the blueray, [COLOR="Red"]the same disc looks miles better[/COLOR]. "



AVForums does have many experts, many who spend thousands, and others even tens of thousands. However a comparasion of £500 player and a ps3 = two different ball parks!
Furthermore "user or dynamic or pure or whatever" the guy doesnt sound the most bright spark either...if youve had your TV ISF calibrated you would know your TV, and the rest of your equipment off by heart.

Furthermore: "the same disc looks miles better" but yet no further explanation of how! Clarity? Colour? Saturation? Contrast?

Furthermore, a stand alone player out of the box has very little to fiddle with, whereas the ps3 has many options to fiddle with to get the best image for your TV...thus who knows if he even set that up!

A huge PLUS for the PS3 that nobody seems to has mentioned is Streaming Divx, etc via PS3 Media Server or TVersity ! :thumbsup:

For flexibility go for a PS3 ...... :thumbsup:

Mecoconuts;7173470

A huge PLUS for the PS3 that nobody seems to has mentioned is Streaming … A huge PLUS for the PS3 that nobody seems to has mentioned is Streaming Divx, etc via PS3 Media Server or TVersity ! :thumbsup:For flexibility go for a PS3 ...... :thumbsup:



i don't watch crappy pirates/rips/divx rubbish with sub par sound and picture,

for my cinema experience I have even purchased the HD trailer of the Pearl and Dean logo......:whistling:

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