Bogof offers/ fast food Tv ads to be banned

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Posted 27th Jul
So annoying. It’s insulting that I’m to be deemed incapable of making an informed choice!
Sugar drinks 2.0

https://apple.news/AAoP0LL8SSLSt7tQu_KIrRg

Try this-

google.co.uk/amp/s/inews.co.uk/news/uk/buy-one-get-one-free-junk-food-boris-johnson-battle-obesity-528063/amp
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I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon slices at tesco when a packet of oreos are 50p.

Personally I think we should tax junk food 25% but offer a 25% subsidy on healthy food like fruit and veg
People who overeat will continue regardless of price, the underlying issue/s needs to be addressed as to why they overeat, banning ads and putting up prices won't work
jb6627/07/2020 07:59

I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon …I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon slices at tesco when a packet of oreos are 50p. Personally I think we should tax junk food 25% but offer a 25% subsidy on healthy food like fruit and veg


Melon slices at £2 are one isolated example, sorry. Bananas are 13p each, TESCO do thé 6 apples for 45p
Or there’s this-

hotukdeals.com/dea…244

Please don’t fall for the ‘ it’s expensive to eat healthily’ thing. It’s not actually true
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I agree, ok, I've put on a few pounds since the lockdown began buts thats because I used to play football 3/4 times a week so my exercise has been greatly reduced.

The fact that everyone is being tarred with the same brush is insulting. Everyone who isn't obese will simply see the odd treat etc they used to buy now go up in price. The fact remains that if someone desperately wants to stuff their faces all day with cakes that they will still do so, something else will have to give in their lives.

The tax on drinks is absolute tosh as well. I think it supposed to be 14%??, well, I used to be able to buy a 2ltr bottle of Pepsi for a £1 quite readily, so you'd expect it to be £1.14 for the same amount? Now it is more like £2 a bottle, a 100% mark up, not 14%

Punish the few, not the many!!!!
I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon slices at tesco when a packet of oreos are 50p.

Personally I think we should tax junk food 25% but offer a 25% subsidy on healthy food like fruit and veg
But is this really about our health, or is it a badly thought out way (lazy) excuse to try and claw back a little bit of the money they've spent on the corona virus?
jb6627/07/2020 07:59

I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon …I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon slices at tesco when a packet of oreos are 50p. Personally I think we should tax junk food 25% but offer a 25% subsidy on healthy food like fruit and veg


Melon slices at £2 are one isolated example, sorry. Bananas are 13p each, TESCO do thé 6 apples for 45p
Or there’s this-

hotukdeals.com/dea…244

Please don’t fall for the ‘ it’s expensive to eat healthily’ thing. It’s not actually true
jb6627/07/2020 07:59

I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon …I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon slices at tesco when a packet of oreos are 50p. Personally I think we should tax junk food 25% but offer a 25% subsidy on healthy food like fruit and veg


You would support, nay propose a tax on “junk food”? What the heck is junk food?

Perhaps you wouldn't mind if we were all just given Soylent Green.
Edited by: "PAISAL" 27th Jul
It's very contradictory when they are also going to push the eat out campaign as well,obviously as usual policies on the hoof again with no cohesion
Hallsie27/07/2020 07:57

I agree, ok, I've put on a few pounds since the lockdown began buts thats …I agree, ok, I've put on a few pounds since the lockdown began buts thats because I used to play football 3/4 times a week so my exercise has been greatly reduced.The fact that everyone is being tarred with the same brush is insulting. Everyone who isn't obese will simply see the odd treat etc they used to buy now go up in price. The fact remains that if someone desperately wants to stuff their faces all day with cakes that they will still do so, something else will have to give in their lives.The tax on drinks is absolute tosh as well. I think it supposed to be 14%??, well, I used to be able to buy a 2ltr bottle of Pepsi for a £1 quite readily, so you'd expect it to be £1.14 for the same amount? Now it is more like £2 a bottle, a 100% mark up, not 14% Punish the few, not the many!!!!


Exactly this. I mean, everyone is aware that certain goods are calorie dense. I won’t use ‘ junk food’ or ‘bad for you’ as , everything in moderation. I prefer sugared drinks to diet, id just rather have them. I drink them very occasionally. My choice has already been taken away on that. During the hot weather I bought the kids Vimto ice pops. Just tasted of chemicals. Horrible.
Why did they reduce the tax on the food like KFC and drinks like Pepsi?! Seem stupid, almost like they were encouraging people to go out and eat unhealthly!
groenleader27/07/2020 08:32

Why did they reduce the tax on the food like KFC and drinks like Pepsi?! …Why did they reduce the tax on the food like KFC and drinks like Pepsi?! Seem stupid, almost like they were encouraging people to go out and eat unhealthly!


theyre still on mega expensive, i remember happy meals being 99p, just cos theyre now 1.89 instead of 2.29 doesnt mean im rushing out to be a fatto.

it comes down to education, and moderation
Fast food places are cheap for various reasons - lowest acceptable quality ingredients, factory harvesting including of meat with absolutely everything being used (and I mean everything), farm subsidies in many countries, food frozen for months or even years bought during a glut, having behaviour scientists on their payroll to show exactly what smells / tastes trigger desire and addiction, etc etc etc.

Compare that with the far fresher produce, meats, etc used in our kitchens bought in the grocery store. At least UK, Europe, etc have better standards for food compared to the corporate dictated food standards in the US.
People who overeat will continue regardless of price, the underlying issue/s needs to be addressed as to why they overeat, banning ads and putting up prices won't work
Wtf
This is mad.
God I'm moving

We need to start taking action against these nanny state fascist PMs and MPs
Edited by: "Abidaboviveru" 27th Jul
jb6627/07/2020 07:59

I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon …I think they should ban junk food deals, it's hard to spend £2 on melon slices at tesco when a packet of oreos are 50p. Personally I think we should tax junk food 25% but offer a 25% subsidy on healthy food like fruit and veg


Personally I prefer strawberries over oreos
Taste better and more sugar
Did sugar tax work? Nope now left with overpriced drinks or horrible tasting products
Edited by: "Abidaboviveru" 27th Jul
Personal choice has gone out of the window recently - 1984 springs to mind.
Edited by: "TheBiker" 27th Jul
There are children and adults who are impressionable and have ‘monkey see, monkey want’ reactions to adverts.

I don’t see an issue with banning the adverts, and think that bingo and casino ads should be curbed as well.

It’s not like the adverts bring anything to society and will be missed, they aren’t exactly providing a vital service and entertainment.
sicklysweet27/07/2020 11:17

There are children and adults who are impressionable and have ‘monkey see, …There are children and adults who are impressionable and have ‘monkey see, monkey want’ reactions to adverts.I don’t see an issue with banning the adverts, and think that bingo and casino ads should be curbed as well.It’s not like the adverts bring anything to society and will be missed, they aren’t exactly providing a vital service and entertainment.


Was just about to post something similar.

I would be totally opposed to banning junk food itself or applying punitive taxes but have absolutely no problem with banning adverts, likewise with gambling.
And no matter how much the government tell people about healthy living, it's down to the individual to make those decisions. People will still smoke, drink too much and overeat until they come to terms with how it's affecting their health. They could combat the problem by banning products and putting forced daily exercise into people's lives but that seems like 1984 and no one wants that.
sicklysweet27/07/2020 11:17

There are children and adults who are impressionable and have ‘monkey see, …There are children and adults who are impressionable and have ‘monkey see, monkey want’ reactions to adverts.I don’t see an issue with banning the adverts, and think that bingo and casino ads should be curbed as well.It’s not like the adverts bring anything to society and will be missed, they aren’t exactly providing a vital service and entertainment.


I agree with your points, especially bingo and casino ads, but wouldn't the broadcasters lose an element of revenue for their programming? I can't stand the ads myself but they help pay the bills
oli_1_uk27/07/2020 11:28

And no matter how much the government tell people about healthy living, …And no matter how much the government tell people about healthy living, it's down to the individual to make those decisions. People will still smoke, drink too much and overeat until they come to terms with how it's affecting their health. They could combat the problem by banning products and putting forced daily exercise into people's lives but that seems like 1984 and no one wants that.


Luckily we have a case study which demonstrates why banning something the majority of the population have no real issue with is an incredibly bad idea, prohibition in 1920s USA. The result was the rise of organised crime, a problem America still faces today to a greater degree than most other wealthy, developed countries.
Edited by: "spoo" 27th Jul
I wouldn't get worried about a ban on BOGOF and similar deals. A similar ban was made on alcohol in Scotland and when a supermarket put a deal for say "3 bottles of wine for £21 (or £10 each)" in the rest of the UK; they just made the bottles £7 each in Scotland, which imo is a better deal. Similar would probably happen with junk food, where we get % discounts instead of multibuy offers, removing the encouragement of buying 5 packs of biscuits.
oli_1_uk27/07/2020 11:28

And no matter how much the government tell people about healthy living, …And no matter how much the government tell people about healthy living, it's down to the individual to make those decisions. People will still smoke, drink too much and overeat until they come to terms with how it's affecting their health. They could combat the problem by banning products and putting forced daily exercise into people's lives but that seems like 1984 and no one wants that.



Society likes convenience and shortcuts.

Children aren’t all as lucky as I was with parents who had a love of good food, the time to lovingly prepare it and a dining table to share it on. I was taught to appreciate food from a young age. Often the food was created out of the cheapest cuts but when cooked well it was amazing.

To some people food is a habit or a means to an end. To me it’s something I truly enjoy and appreciate. It saddens me that not everyone gets the joy from food that I do; I see people shovelling food down and you know they aren’t even tasting the flavours and savouring the experience.

Parents and schools need to improve their home economics food education and impart the importance and joy of good food into children whilst they are impressionable and eager to learn. Children are like sponges!
oli_1_uk27/07/2020 11:32

I agree with your points, especially bingo and casino ads, but wouldn't …I agree with your points, especially bingo and casino ads, but wouldn't the broadcasters lose an element of revenue for their programming? I can't stand the ads myself but they help pay the bills


Broadcasters that have advertising are businesses, not charities.

Yes they provide a service, but not a vital service.

Additionally, there should be enough sectors in society for them to find sufficient revenue stream but if not then maybe they shouldn’t be in business or they should restructure and streamline their services.
Abidaboviveru27/07/2020 10:59

Personally I prefer strawberries over oreosTaste better and more sugar


Aldi sell strawbs for 99p. I got some half that price today from there as i was in there early and they’re today’s date.
sicklysweet27/07/2020 11:49

Society likes convenience and shortcuts. Children aren’t all as lucky as I …Society likes convenience and shortcuts. Children aren’t all as lucky as I was with parents who had a love of good food, the time to lovingly prepare it and a dining table to share it on. I was taught to appreciate food from a young age. Often the food was created out of the cheapest cuts but when cooked well it was amazing.To some people food is a habit or a means to an end. To me it’s something I truly enjoy and appreciate. It saddens me that not everyone gets the joy from food that I do; I see people shovelling food down and you know they aren’t even tasting the flavours and savouring the experience.Parents and schools need to improve their home economics food education and impart the importance and joy of good food into children whilst they are impressionable and eager to learn. Children are like sponges!


I think it all depends on people's circumstances, most people want to eat well but the convenience of having the food made quicker seems more tempting after a long work day. The idea with parents and schools sounds good but I can imagine it all depends on your income, time and how fussy your kids can be with regards to food.
I wonder what the MP's average BMI is.
They should practise what they preach.

Or is it just another way of taxing people through the back door.
Bogof offers haven't actually existed for years! Titally agreed re sugar choice 2.0. Yet another mentally stupid "show" our PR-crazed, theatrical government have conjured up!
Edited by: "OwlEye" 27th Jul
It is actually expensive to eat healthy and cook fr9m scratch.
Example, I spent £12.50 on whole salmon, have allotment to potatoes, salad, cucumbers, beans nad herbs from there. But lets day another £3 for a large family.

Vs

pack of fish fingers and chips be £5? so 3 times less.

Fortunately my food budget is fine and it's thing i would save on tbh.
Apart from pizza chains I haven't seen a B1G1F offer in years. I don't hold out much hope for this as the sugar tax increased the price of sugar free versions, especially the cans.
This won't change anything.

Buy one pizza get another for 1p on Tuesday for example from one well known chain.

Just moving the goalposts.

End of the day it's a money saving exercise for the government and NHS which I have no problem with, but they are going the wrong way about it promote exercise - free football sessions, free tennis, promote local couch to 5K clubs etc offer PT some time where they meet people in parks etc.

In my town over the summer there isn't a single football goal up on grass. The tennis courts are chargeable, the pool isn't free and the astro pitch is 17 pound an hour with the gym at 40 P/M. I don't blame people for choosing the Xbox or PlayStation.

Awaiting the in my day comments already...
Cant remember the last time i saw a bogof deal so wont really make a difference
Personator123427/07/2020 14:34

This won't change anything.Buy one pizza get another for 1p on Tuesday for …This won't change anything.Buy one pizza get another for 1p on Tuesday for example from one well known chain.Just moving the goalposts.End of the day it's a money saving exercise for the government and NHS which I have no problem with, but they are going the wrong way about it promote exercise - free football sessions, free tennis, promote local couch to 5K clubs etc offer PT some time where they meet people in parks etc.In my town over the summer there isn't a single football goal up on grass. The tennis courts are chargeable, the pool isn't free and the astro pitch is 17 pound an hour with the gym at 40 P/M. I don't blame people for choosing the Xbox or PlayStation.Awaiting the in my day comments already...


Agreed they should put more government funded exercise sessions on for adults as well as kids, instead of doctors prescribing bikes. Would also give some group training classes to the PT's out there who probably need the work right now.
I always see crisps and sweets on special offer. Not so much broccoli or tomatoes.
Also why is a Politician's solution is banning and taxation
Instead of making stuff more expensive how about make ingredients cheaper
sicklysweet27/07/2020 11:55

Broadcasters that have advertising are businesses, not charities.Yes they …Broadcasters that have advertising are businesses, not charities.Yes they provide a service, but not a vital service. Additionally, there should be enough sectors in society for them to find sufficient revenue stream but if not then maybe they shouldn’t be in business or they should restructure and streamline their services.


Very true but as a business, if gambling/junk food/alcohol companies come you're way with big cheque books it's probably difficult to turn them down, also if they are anything like the tobacco companies with F1 they will find other ways to advertise to people.
AMaky27/07/2020 13:25

It is actually expensive to eat healthy and cook fr9m scratch. Example, I …It is actually expensive to eat healthy and cook fr9m scratch. Example, I spent £12.50 on whole salmon, have allotment to potatoes, salad, cucumbers, beans nad herbs from there. But lets day another £3 for a large family.Vspack of fish fingers and chips be £5? so 3 times less.Fortunately my food budget is fine and it's thing i would save on tbh.



I don’t think you can really compare fish fingers with salmon though. That’s like comparing braising steak with ribeye steak; yes both are beef but they’re a different kettle of fish (pun intended).

If you want fish in a budget you can do a lot with tinned mackerel/tuna or get some kippers, or use smoked salmon pieces or get white fish fillets (520g) for £2.18 which is more akin to fish finger meat than salmon fillet tesco.com/gro…237

If you use food cleverly then healthy, delicious, inspiring and good value foods are achievable. The thing is you need the inspiration, confidence, ability, time and effort to make it.
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