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    Boiler advice please - Worcester Greenstar i25 vs Ideal Logic+ 30kw

    Hello,

    We are getting gas installed and I need to choose between 2 boiler options, the greenstar i25 and the ideal logic+ 30. Ive read loads of reviews online, there seems to be good and bad reviews for each, I cant seem to find a general consensus!

    The warranties are 7 years for the ideal logic, and 8 years for the worcester.

    The ideal will cost £2400, worcester £2600.

    Ive also read that Ideal have bucked up their ideas in recent years and are now producing much better boilers than they used to?

    Any input would be much appreciated.

    Thanks

    22 Comments

    Worcester

    Worcester here too.
    I know 2 people that have ideal combi boilers which are constantly playing up!
    Worcester seems to have a much better reputation.

    Original Poster

    Sid Harper

    Worcester



    why is that? do you have the greenstar 25i?
    Edited by: "adamski88" 18th Aug 2016

    absolutely nothing wrong with a logic+, if you go down the worcester route always install a CDi. The 25i has a minging hot water flow rate.


    Edited by: "pinkleponkle" 18th Aug 2016

    I have the Worcester one now and its brilliant bit of kit (had it less than a year though) my last boiler was an ideal one and i had nothing but trouble with it year after year

    The water flow is faster on a 30 kva than a 24kva.

    I have an Ideal boiler. 17 years old and still going strong. Serviced and checked fine by British Gas yesterday

    Original Poster

    landros1

    The water flow is faster on a 30 kva than a 24kva.



    i believe this is limited to the flow rate of the mains, so for example, if ur mains was 9 liters per min and the boiler could do 13 liters/min the boiler would be limited to 9.

    altho I will definitely check the current mains flow rate to see if it is faster than the worcesters maximum output, thanks

    Original Poster

    agh it seems that opinion is definitely divided on this!

    I assume that price is fully installed as the Worcester boiler on it's own can be had for well under a grand

    directheatingsupplies.co.uk/wor…G0g

    My dad has a two year old ideal has broken down about 5 times and defective parts every time not the install. Worcester Bosch prior to that died after 20 years solid service.

    worcester. i had one in 2008 and still going strong. never had a problem, touch wood.

    Ideal has a better flow rate, is easier to repair, and is Opentherm compatible.

    The Worcester has an extra year's warranty.

    The only thing that will really matter is the quality of the installer, they are both equally as reliable. I would go for the Ideal because its £300 less than the equivalent Worcester.

    adamski88

    i believe this is limited to the flow rate of the mains, so for example, … i believe this is limited to the flow rate of the mains, so for example, if ur mains was 9 liters per min and the boiler could do 13 liters/min the boiler would be limited to 9.altho I will definitely check the current mains flow rate to see if it is faster than the worcesters maximum output, thanks



    I was told that the 30 kva has bigger gas jets which enables it heat more water per minute.

    tallpete33

    I have an Ideal boiler. 17 years old and still going strong. Serviced and … I have an Ideal boiler. 17 years old and still going strong. Serviced and checked fine by British Gas yesterday



    A modern condenser boiler is a lot more gas efficient.

    landros1

    A modern condenser boiler is a lot more gas efficient.



    I'm sure it is and will happily replace when it does buy the farm. However my dual fuel bill is currently £55 pm in a 3 bed house so it's doing ok for now

    tallpete33

    I'm sure it is and will happily replace when it does buy the farm. … I'm sure it is and will happily replace when it does buy the farm. However my dual fuel bill is currently 63.17€ (£55) pm in a 3 bed house so it's doing ok for now



    6 years ago I swapped a (still going strong after 20+years) microbore balanced flue combination boiler and halved my fuel bills.

    Swopped out out 25 year old boiler because the water pressure had dropped in the shower. A week later while replacing the shower system I discovered it was full of gunk :-) arr well £1500 but we save about £300 a year on gas.

    Worcester hands down!

    It shouldn't even be up for discussion. I fix boilers all day everyday and Worcesters are far more reliable than an Ideal. The Ideal Logic is a cheap and nasty boiler - not as bad as the previous isar models but still miles away in quality from the Worcester

    I looked into this when choosing a new boiler and the concensus was the Worcester aren't as good as they used to be and that the last lot of ideal boilers was terrible. I've also heard that the new ideal boilers are pretty good and come with 7 and 10 year guarantees. I've gone for the Ideal vogue 32 but I've heard the Vaillant boilers are exceptional too.

    I've heard from a few independant gas installers that Worcester Bosch boilers are being heavily advertised by a British Gas campaign.
    youtube.com/wat…9M4

    Worcester as i have one fitted in the cave.

    Original Poster

    thanks everyone
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