Building survey VS structural survey

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Posted 28th Sep
Is building survey and structural survey same or different, and which one should I go for, first time buyer and the property needs quite a bit of work.

Which is more detailed and provide good understanding of the condition of the property.

Also anyone heard of aspreylowcostsurveys.co.uk/ couldn't find any reviews.
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There are a lot of different grades of survey. I'd expect a structural survey to be done by a structural engineer.
building surveys are often a waste of money - especially the cheap ones - and are full of standard x mayt be an issue you should get a specialist to investigate. Do you know any good builders? roofers? electricians?

Can you link to the property or explain what you mean by needs work? Are you concerned about the actual structural soundness or decor?

What is the construction type? Age?
Edited by: "mas99" 28th Sep
mas9928/09/2019 17:00

There are a lot of different grades of survey. I'd expect a structural …There are a lot of different grades of survey. I'd expect a structural survey to be done by a structural engineer.building surveys are often a waste of money - especially the cheap ones - and are full of standard x mayt be an issue you should get a specialist to investigate. Do you know any good builders? roofers? electricians?Can you link to the property or explain what you mean by needs work? Are you concerned about the actual structural soundness or decor?What is the construction type? Age?


We are more of looking at damps, structural soundness, material build to use the house etc. Not too fuss about the decor.

How much do either of these cost roughly in London.

Not sure on the type and age, so would probably be looking for the survey to pick this up.
A building survey is a general visual survey. They will look at the house inside and out usually (where safe) look in the loft at the roof truss condition, the roof and chimney condition (from road/garden). They usually test for damp in walls too.
A structural survey just looks at the structure of the building. Where problems are found they should give you with a reason and remedy and estimated cost.

If if needs "quite a bit of work" then the building survey will probably tell you what you already know.
If the structure of is in doubt (large cracks in the brickwork, subsidence, bowing walls) then a structural survey might be worth the cost.

If the building is sound then as above get quotes from a builder, electrician, glazier, plumber/heating engineer which will be free.
GAVINLEWISHUKD28/09/2019 17:15

A building survey is a general visual survey. They will look at the house …A building survey is a general visual survey. They will look at the house inside and out usually (where safe) look in the loft at the roof truss condition, the roof and chimney condition (from road/garden). They usually test for damp in walls too.A structural survey just looks at the structure of the building. Where problems are found they should give you with a reason and remedy and estimated cost.If if needs "quite a bit of work" then the building survey will probably tell you what you already know. If the structure of is in doubt (large cracks in the brickwork, subsidence, bowing walls) then a structural survey might be worth the cost.If the building is sound then as above get quotes from a builder, electrician, glazier, plumber/heating engineer which will be free.


It will be really difficult to arrange each of these We just want to get a better understanding of the house and see if there are any issues that we should look into after buying the house and/or if anything major, we will try to negotiate the price down.
adamey1928/09/2019 17:21

It will be really difficult to arrange each of these We just want to …It will be really difficult to arrange each of these We just want to get a better understanding of the house and see if there are any issues that we should look into after buying the house and/or if anything major, we will try to negotiate the price down.


If you really have no idea then you may just need to get a survey. But expect some pretty pointless info such as.

Boiler: Working. Recommendation: Install more energy efficient boiler. Estimated cost: £3k-£8k

Windows and doors: Fair Condition. Recommendation: Install more energy efficient windows. Estimated cost: £5k-£15k

You can usually see if the boiler is old and the windows on there way out and probably noticed on your first viewing and already taken into account if the house is worth the asking price.
If you are doing a full refurb you may as well get the plumbing/heating and electrics all done if it's 40+ years old.

If you have an idea about what work you want to be done it might be worth finding building/refurb company that will quote (with a single visit) for general building, plumbing/heating, electrics, glazing.

The other option if you have limited access to the house is take some measurements and photos. Many local firms will have a good idea on local housing and should give you a good ballpark figure on replacement costs.
Structural surveys now appear to be called building surveys and are carried out by Chartered Surveyors. The link you have provided does not mention RICS or any other professional bodies' membership.

Obviously there are always going to have to be 'get out' clauses as so many things can be hidden by, say fitted carpets, loft boarding etc, but a good Chartered Surveyor should be able to advise accordingly.

In London you are probably looking at £1,000 + VAT minimum, but often it can be combined with the mortgage valuation and possibly, if the Surveyor is on the valuation panel, a fee reduction can be given. Also, of course if it often related to the purchase price/size of property.

Whereabouts in London is the property? Have a look at the RICS list.
We're buying in west London, strange I didn't notice that they the above company doesn't mention RICs approved on their website but during the phone call, they said they follow RICs guidelines.
adamey1928/09/2019 18:03

We're buying in west London, strange I didn't notice that they the above …We're buying in west London, strange I didn't notice that they the above company doesn't mention RICs approved on their website but during the phone call, they said they follow RICs guidelines.


Following RICS guidelines doesn’t mean anything, if they’re not RICS approved then walk away. This house is going to be the most expensive thing you’ll purchase and if in any doubt get a full structural survey. You can then use that as a bargaining tool for the purchase price, a building survey is just very basic and will hold no real weight or red flag any problems that may prove costly to remedy.
Toptrumpet28/09/2019 18:12

Following RICS guidelines doesn’t mean anything, if they’re not RICS app …Following RICS guidelines doesn’t mean anything, if they’re not RICS approved then walk away. This house is going to be the most expensive thing you’ll purchase and if in any doubt get a full structural survey. You can then use that as a bargaining tool for the purchase price, a building survey is just very basic and will hold no real weight or red flag any problems that may prove costly to remedy.


Do they have RICa ID. If they are RICs approved.
adamey1928/09/2019 18:15

Do they have RICa ID. If they are RICs approved.


Put their details in HERE, and it will tell you if they are RICS officially approved or not.
I'm assuming you will be getting a mortgage for this property. If it is in a less than perfect condition, the lender may insist on a full structural survey. The older it is, the more likely this is. The survey they insist upon will be the very least they will accept to mortgage the property. Last two houses I bought have been new and needed only a basic homebuyers survey. Prior to that I went for the works. A survey is not looking at the decor, it is looking at the structural integrity of the property. Don't skimp on a survey. It is nothing compared to the possible issues you could have.
@Toptrumpet knows her stuff so just take her advice.
psychobitchfromhell29/09/2019 02:15

I'm assuming you will be getting a mortgage for this property. If it is in …I'm assuming you will be getting a mortgage for this property. If it is in a less than perfect condition, the lender may insist on a full structural survey. The older it is, the more likely this is. The survey they insist upon will be the very least they will accept to mortgage the property. Last two houses I bought have been new and needed only a basic homebuyers survey. Prior to that I went for the works. A survey is not looking at the decor, it is looking at the structural integrity of the property. Don't skimp on a survey. It is nothing compared to the possible issues you could have.@Toptrumpet knows her stuff so just take her advice.


So I should go for structural over building survey?
adamey1929/09/2019 06:19

So I should go for structural over building survey?


A structural survey is now called a building survey. Use a firm/person that is a member of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. As has been said, should there be any issues highlighted and you still wish to proceed, their report can be used in price negotiations.
JimboParrot29/09/2019 06:48

A structural survey is now called a building survey. Use a firm/person …A structural survey is now called a building survey. Use a firm/person that is a member of the Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors. As has been said, should there be any issues highlighted and you still wish to proceed, their report can be used in price negotiations.


Cool, if company is RICs approved do they have some sort of number?
Every Surveyor will have a membership number and ARICS or FRICS after their name together with other letters to. The firm will also have Chartered Surveyors in its name and logo.
JimboParrot29/09/2019 06:55

Every Surveyor will have a membership number and ARICS or FRICS after …Every Surveyor will have a membership number and ARICS or FRICS after their name together with other letters to. The firm will also have Chartered Surveyors in its name and logo.


Cool, will look for that when arranging a surveyor
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