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    Buying a de-restricted moped

    I'm looking to buy a scooter/moped for my 16year old - have found one - but its derestricted. What the heck does that mean?????

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    Banned

    it goes faster than it should

    basically it can do a higher speed then what it used to. Say the moped is "restricted" to about 36mph, being derestricted allows them to go faster then that.

    It means he can't legally ride it (at 16) :thumbsup:

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    isnt it illegal to do this?

    Original Poster

    Its illegal then???

    sassie;6306350

    isnt it illegal to do this?



    its only me;6306355

    Its illegal then???



    It's not illegal, but I think you have to have passed a different test to a moped test to ride one.

    mate had one and it was just a screw to de-restrict it and you could screw it back in, ask the seller if its easy reversible, some are.

    midlandscomics;6306370

    It's not illegal, but I think you have to have passed a different test to … It's not illegal, but I think you have to have passed a different test to a moped test to ride one.



    It is if he's 16. The bike has to be restricted.

    Otherwise you can ride up to the restricted power of a 125cc... but you still need to find insurance for a modified bike.

    Steer clear!

    Also bear in mind that the strength of the braking system is determined by the top speed of the moped.

    If the moped has been adjusted to raise the overall top speed, check the brakes have been improved so that the rider is still able to stop safely.

    BFN,

    fp.

    [email protected];6306427

    It is if he's 16. The bike has to be restricted.Otherwise you can ride up … It is if he's 16. The bike has to be restricted.Otherwise you can ride up to the restricted power of a 125cc... but you still need to find insurance for a modified bike.Steer clear!



    I'd already put in an earlier post that he can't ride it if he's 16

    kungfu;6306396

    mate had one and it was just a screw to de-restrict it and you could … mate had one and it was just a screw to de-restrict it and you could screw it back in, ask the seller if its easy reversible, some are.



    Depends how far the person has gone.

    Could have took the washer out the variatior, then put a new exhaust on, upjetted the carb, put lighter roller weights in etc. Then it isnt so easy to go back.

    The bike you are basically getting goes faster than a 16 year old with a CBT is allowed, a lot of 16 year olds do this though. But you will be driving without a licence and without insurence.

    Original Poster

    Thanks for the input guys! Probably not worth the risk on this one!

    its only me;6306495

    Thanks for the input guys! Probably not worth the risk on this one!



    To be honest, you will have enough of driving around at the dangerous speed of 30mph within a couple of months and will probably make it go faster anyway.

    Restricting them to 30mph is dangerous.

    the__mayster;6306546

    To be honest, you will have enough of driving around at the dangerous … To be honest, you will have enough of driving around at the dangerous speed of 30mph within a couple of months and will probably make it go faster anyway.Restricting them to 30mph is dangerous.



    Fine - then don't get a bike at 16. The law is that they must be restricted. Seems little point in buying valid insurance and paying for a CBT if you're just going to break the law anyway!

    Police are hot on derestricted bikes - insurance companies too.

    Really annoys me when kids do this - parents are usually the ones paying and they don't understand that the kids are riding illegally. Everythings fine until they hit something or somebody...

    Supermod

    sassie;6306350

    isnt it illegal to do this?



    No. Not illegal but usually voids the insurance if you insure a 50cc scooter.

    magicjay1986;6306645

    No. Not illegal but usually voids the insurance if you insure a 50cc … No. Not illegal but usually voids the insurance if you insure a 50cc scooter.



    So it would make it illegal to sit on that vehicle and start the engine on the road? :P

    You would be required to declare the modification!

    A de-restricted moped is only allowed to be riden by someone with a FULL motorcycle license.

    99% of 16/17 year olds do use their 50cc/125cc bikes de-restricted and just do not inform the insurance company. (so basically you are not insured and are paying a premium to have the piece of paper in case of getting a producer) If he/she has an accident and the insurance company check the bike (again 99% of accidents show reports of these teens going over the actual maximum speed that the restricted versions can do, so insurance companies use this as a way out of paying a claim and will look into it if an accident has happened).

    [email protected];6306680

    So it would make it illegal to sit on that vehicle and start the engine … So it would make it illegal to sit on that vehicle and start the engine on the road? :P



    I think Sassie was asking if it's illegal to de-restrict a moped, which it isn't. It's just what you do with it afterwards :-D

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    god i hate that noise

    By law at 16 you can ride a 50cc moped/geared bike that does not exceed 30mph
    once de-restricted a moped can reach well over this making the rider illegal until hes 17 years old.

    its also true that a high percentage of police dont really know or care and i have to admit i did this to my scoot when i was 16 :oops: as does most 16 year olds.

    I can guarentee within 6 months of riding a scoot your 16 year old will have found out how to de-restrict it and will do it him/herself as all his 16 year old mates will be doing 40-50mph leaving him behind.

    Just remember to run the engine in properly and drill it into him that 2 stroke scooters need 2 stroke oil, not just petrol or it will blow up!!:roll:

    i havent had mine de-restricted as i was told if you had to claim on your insurance it can make it void.

    Supermod

    [email protected];6306680

    So it would make it illegal to sit on that vehicle and start the engine … So it would make it illegal to sit on that vehicle and start the engine on the road? :PYou would be required to declare the modification!



    Which was my point you missed. Nice edit.

    Cue long story-

    I had a 50 cc yamaha DT when i was 16 it was like 35mph top speed for months but then the piston clogged up and gradually, in the end i was doing like 10mph so took it to taffspeed (me local scooter shop) and they put a "big bore" piston in it to enable it to to go up to a speed of a 125cc, on my request.
    The ride home was dangerous as hell and i nearly killed myself, i was once doing like 35mph max then all of a suddern it was going at over twice the speed at 75mph
    When I arrived home I gave it one more blast around the block, i wanted the speed but couldn't handle the speed, as any biker will tell u the speed on a bike feels 50 times faster than the speed in a nice safe car. Later that day i put it on the freeads and sold it

    The moral of the story is...well there isn't one really just thought i would share this story with you

    JBAUERBEATSJBOND;6306931

    The moral of the story is...



    "...With great power comes great responsibility"?

    It is not speed that kills people; it is inexperienced drivers & riders travelling at speed that kills people.

    BFN,

    fp.

    Id hate to confuse the OP but a BIG BORE kit is a bigger piston and barrel and is NOT de-restricting the bike, big bore is a whole different ball game!

    a 50cc scoot de-restricted will be lucky to do 60mph with a race can and clutch weights.

    best thin gto do is let him ride it til he feels he can handle more speed and then de-restrict when hes 17 or nearly 17.

    [email protected];6306597

    Fine - then don't get a bike at 16. The law is that they must be … Fine - then don't get a bike at 16. The law is that they must be restricted. Seems little point in buying valid insurance and paying for a CBT if you're just going to break the law anyway!Police are hot on derestricted bikes - insurance companies too.Really annoys me when kids do this - parents are usually the ones paying and they don't understand that the kids are riding illegally. Everythings fine until they hit something or somebody...



    Someone is touchy arnt they.

    I did get a bike at 16, and i did wait until i was 17 to de restrict it, and i did tell my insurance company.

    Calm down poppet.

    dcx_badass;6307304

    Wait till he's 17 and get a 125cc bike if you're going to do it, probably … Wait till he's 17 and get a 125cc bike if you're going to do it, probably safer as limited to 36mph is dangerous IMO on some raods.



    31mp/h is the limited speed. 50km/h

    the__mayster;6307303

    Someone is touchy arnt they.I did get a bike at 16, and i did wait until … Someone is touchy arnt they.I did get a bike at 16, and i did wait until i was 17 to de restrict it, and i did tell my insurance company.Calm down poppet.



    Most people don't. Why didn't you just buy a 125cc?!

    magicjay1986;6306897

    Which was my point you missed. Nice edit.



    [email protected];6308004

    Most people don't. Why didn't you just buy a 125cc?!



    As i need to get around at 16.

    And i didnt get a 125 at 17 as it was cheaper to do up my own bike.

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    dcx_badass;6307304

    Wait till he's 17 and get a 125cc bike if you're going to do it, probably … Wait till he's 17 and get a 125cc bike if you're going to do it, probably safer as limited to 36mph is dangerous IMO on some raods.



    which roads are unsafe to ride on at 36mph legally?

    casparwhite;6309002

    which roads are unsafe to ride on at 36mph legally?



    Doing 36mph on a motorway would be a bit iffy :lol:

    casparwhite;6309002

    which roads are unsafe to ride on at 36mph legally?



    A 60mph dual carriage way

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    the__mayster;6313998

    A 60mph dual carriage way



    You can ride a push bike on a dual carriage way and a dual carriage way is 70mph limit lol

    the__mayster;6306546

    To be honest, you will have enough of driving around at the dangerous … To be honest, you will have enough of driving around at the dangerous speed of 30mph within a couple of months and will probably make it go faster anyway.Restricting them to 30mph is dangerous.



    agreed my 50 goes 74mph maxed out its unsafe and bad for the engin to be restriced to 30mph
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