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    Buying bikes Cat-D. , MOT and break light confusions

    Hey guys,
    I viewed a motorbike today and though cosmetically it was looking rough, the engine and working parts looked good so for the price I was pretty pleased.

    I then got home and did the proper checks (MOST and HPI history check) and found out annoyingly it was a Cat-D. Not the end of the world however according to the MOT records it was not MOT'd again after this. Is this legal? It gets worse in the fact the MOT runs out later this month!

    I also noticed that a license plate light was strobing with what seemed to be the revs of the engine, the guy said this was a feature and I don't believe you need one to pass MOT for a bike? However I am worried this shows a problem with the electronics, though lights and indictors work fine.

    Honestly get the feeling the guy is playing me for a mug, which is unfortunate as the engine is sound and I could deal with the rest.

    TLDR ; do bikes need to be MOT'd if they have been repaired post Cat-D?

    Are license plate lights legally required for motorbikes and is a light blinking with the revs a sign of a problem?

    Cheers

    11 Comments

    no they don't need a new MOT after repair. I've repaired dozens of cars and bikes.

    right now it's a slightly grey area as the law recently changed, previously you'd need a Vic check after a cat c repair but this was scrapped and garages now just need to do an MOT but there is nothing for car d except it's next scheduled MOT.

    your light problem sounds more like a bad ground, check all terminals are tight and try a wire direct from the ground on the light to the ground on the battery. It could also be that the battery is not holding good charge and the alternator is boosting the power to the lights when revving, so I'd do a battery check too or just buy a new battery.

    Original Poster

    you_gotta_be_kidding5 m ago

    no they don't need a new MOT after repair. I've repaired dozens of cars …no they don't need a new MOT after repair. I've repaired dozens of cars and bikes.right now it's a slightly grey area as the law recently changed, previously you'd need a Vic check after a cat c repair but this was scrapped and garages now just need to do an MOT but there is nothing for car d except it's next scheduled MOT.


    Thanks for the reply, could the bike fail MOT on body work fitting / pieces missing?
    Edited by: "catbeans" 12th Jun

    catbeans

    Thanks for the reply, could the bike fail MOT on body work fitting / … Thanks for the reply, could the bike fail MOT on body work fitting / pieces missing?



    ​only if there is sharp edges or unsecure items.

    I've seen bike pass with the fairing fully removed

    Sorry can't answer your questions, Insurance will probably be dearer, no way would I ride a cat d bike
    I'd take it back
    Edited by: "snoopy18" 12th Jun

    I believe licence plate lights are required for motorbikes. Most of my bikes have used the tail light bulbs with a clear bit of plastic above the licence plate to do the illumination however.

    If the seller didn't declare it was Cat D that's bad form. Cat C/D bikes tend to go for quite a bit less than market value and as someone else mentioned the insurance can be higher (although I don't know from first hand experience).

    Last thing to check with the bulbs is see if the contacts are rusty. If water gets in and corrodes the contacts you can get a pretty intermittent fault.

    snoopy18

    Sorry can't answer your questions, Insurance will probably be dearer, no … Sorry can't answer your questions, Insurance will probably be dearer, no way would I ride a cat d bike I'd take it back



    ​wrong, insurance companies don't have access to crash data, the ONLY exception is if you happen to insure using the same insurer that did the payout.

    snoopy18

    Sorry can't answer your questions, Insurance will probably be dearer, no … Sorry can't answer your questions, Insurance will probably be dearer, no way would I ride a cat d bike I'd take it back



    ​there's nothing wrong with Cat d bikes, if they have even a tiny bit of frame damage they are cat b. Cat d bikes are a lot easier to repair than cat d cars, is usually just superficial fairing, scratches, etc damaged. a few weeks ago I repaired a two week old Yamaha MT07 that I bought for £1400 it needed fuel tank, pegs and some scratches in the chrome polishing out and it was as good as new, total two days work... sold it for £3.5k

    I just love the fact the guy said the strobing plate light was a feature!

    Cat d is usually just cosmetic damage that the insurance company considered uneconomical to repair.

    Original Poster

    thanks everyone


    you_gotta_be_kidding

    there's nothing wrong with Cat d bikes, if they have even a tiny bit of … there's nothing wrong with Cat d bikes, if they have even a tiny bit of frame damage they are cat b. Cat d bikes are a lot easier to repair than cat d cars, is usually just superficial fairing, scratches, etc damaged. a few weeks ago I repaired a two week old Yamaha MT07 that I bought for £1400 it needed fuel tank, pegs and some scratches in the chrome polishing out and it was as good as new, total two days work... sold it for £3.5k



    thanks you_gotta for the great answers, i bought the bike and insurance is fine.
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