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    Buying RAM for my PC

    I have the following Spec PC (see below) and looking for 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3 Memory... but unsure which is the best option for me Its needs to be low profile...

    - Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
    - i7-4770K
    - Z87-HD3
    - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770

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    have a look at crucial.com and use memory selector you can always search somewhere else for price you want.

    There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 low profile RAM from a known brand like Corsair ect..

    Any reason you want 4 x 4gb vs 2 x 8gb and by low profile you just mean without any fancy heatsink right?

    Without your over clocking just pick whichever is cheapest and stick to named brands

    domfranks85

    but unsure which is the best option for me Its needs to be low profile...



    It always annoys me when manufacturers refer to normal memory as low profile to distinguish it from memory with fancy covers. Sadly it seems to have become standard with actual low profile (1U) memory getting referred to as very low profile or similar.

    Anyway, that CPU only support dual channel memory so there's no good reason to go for four sticks unless you already own two. 2x8GB is more sensible if you're buying from scratch.

    You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed is important but a lot of things aren't limited by memory bandwidth so it doesn't make any sense to spend more than a few quid over the cheapest available sticks. I guess you'd probably end up with something like DDR3-1866 these days.

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    EndlessWaves

    You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed … You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed is important.



    Using it for PC gaming, when looking on (Scan Website) it lists the following:

    DDR3 Quad Channel 240 pin
    DDR3 Single/Dual Channel 240
    DDR3 Triple Channel 240

    All i know is that i need DDR3 - 240 pin... and i want it to be the best for Gaming on Steam ect....

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    joshp

    There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 … There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 low profile RAM from a known brand like Corsair ect..


    Also will my setup run (1866), (2133), (2400) by plug and play??? or will i need to alter any settings? or overclock ?

    EndlessWaves

    It always annoys me when manufacturers refer to normal memory as low … It always annoys me when manufacturers refer to normal memory as low profile to distinguish it from memory with fancy covers. Sadly it seems to have become standard with actual low profile (1U) memory getting referred to as very low profile or similar.Anyway, that CPU only support dual channel memory so there's no good reason to go for four sticks unless you already own two. 2x8GB is more sensible if you're buying from scratch.You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed is important but a lot of things aren't limited by memory bandwidth so it doesn't make any sense to spend more than a few quid over the cheapest available sticks. I guess you'd probably end up with something like DDR3-1866 these days.



    ​Low profile memory is a thing and it's memory with a smaller heatsink, my 212 evo preventede from having 2 ram sticks because of the height of the heatsink however the g skill ares fitted perfectly the trident z didn't fit

    https://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-02-08/56b.jpg low. Profile

    EndlessWaves

    You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed … You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed is important.

    joshp

    There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 … There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 low profile RAM from a known brand like Corsair ect..

    Chidmas

    https://www.techpowerup.com/img/12-02-08/56b.jpg



    Triple channel was supported by the old Socket 1366 processors (i7-920 etc.) while quad channel is supposed to Intel's Socket 2011 server platform (i7-5820k, 6800k etc.)

    Number of channels is a property of the CPU/Motherboard and the memory sticks are all identical. A quad-channel kit is just four matched memory sticks, no different from the two sticks in a dual channel kit.

    All buying a quad channel kit would do is to fill up all your memory slots so you'd have to pay extra to replace sticks in future capacity increases instead of just adding to them. Four sticks would run in dual channel mode for your 4770k as that's all it supports.

    PC Gaming isn't something that makes a big use of memory bandwidth although there are a few situations where it seems to help with minimum frame rate a little. I certainly wouldn't pay a lot extra for faster memory though, other uses of the same money will get you much bigger performance boosts.

    domfranks85

    Also will my setup run (1866), (2133), (2400) by plug and play??? or will … Also will my setup run (1866), (2133), (2400) by plug and play??? or will i need to alter any settings? or overclock ?



    Check your motherboard manual.

    Looking on the scan website if that's your preferred shop they have several choices at the same £71.99 price. You probably want to avoid the 1.65v ones if you don't want to run out of spec so your choice comes down to these two:
    scan.co.uk/pro…30-
    scan.co.uk/pro…7-x

    Both are going to be very similar. The 2133 probably has a marginal advantage but you won't notice it so if you want to buy on looks or whatever then you should do so.





    https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/GSkill/ARES_F3-2400C11D-8GAB/images/dimm_height.jpg

    The standard height for a DDR3 DIMM is 30mm, so not only is that not low profile but it's slightly taller than standard!
    https://www.micron.com/~/media/documents/products/technical-note/dram-modules/tn0455.pdf

    This is 'real' low profile memory:
    https://www.techpowerup.com/img/13-01-26/252a.jpg
    https://www.techpowerup.com/img/13-01-26/252d.jpg
    techpowerup.com/179…ory

    Edited by: "EndlessWaves" 22nd Aug 2016

    EndlessWaves

    Triple channel was supported by the old Socket 1366 processors (i7-920 … Triple channel was supported by the old Socket 1366 processors (i7-920 etc.) while quad channel is supposed to Intel's Socket 2011 server platform (i7-5820k, 6800k etc.)Number of channels is a property of the CPU/Motherboard and the memory sticks are all identical. A quad-channel kit is just four matched memory sticks, no different from the two sticks in a dual channel kit. All buying a quad channel kit would do is to fill up all your memory slots so you'd have to pay extra to replace sticks in future capacity increases instead of just adding to them. Four sticks would run in dual channel mode for your 4770k as that's all it supports.PC Gaming isn't something that makes a big use of memory bandwidth although there are a few situations where it seems to help with minimum frame rate a little. I certainly wouldn't pay a lot extra for faster memory though, other uses of the same money will get you much bigger performance boosts.Check your motherboard manual.Looking on the scan website if that's your preferred shop they have several choices at the same £71.99 price. You probably want to avoid the 1.65v ones if you don't want to run out of spec so your choice comes down to these two:https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-%282x8gb%29-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-performance-pc3-14900-%281866%29-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-10-11-10-30-https://www.scan.co.uk/products/16gb-%282x8gb%29-corsair-ddr3-vengeance-pro-silver-pc3-17066-%282133%29-non-ecc-unbuffered-cas-11-12-12-27-xBoth are going to be very similar. The 2133 probably has a marginal advantage but you won't notice it so if you want to buy on looks or whatever then you should do so.The standard height for a DDR3 DIMM is 30mm, so not only is that not low profile but it's slightly taller than standard!https://www.micron.com/~/media/documents/products/technical-note/dram-modules/tn0455.pdfThis is 'real' low profile memory:https://www.techpowerup.com/179387/super-talent-announces-green-very-low-profile-vlp-memory



    ​You've slightly bastardised the argument the ram at the bottom states super low profile.

    The dimm without a heatsink is 30mm so again it still stands this is low profile ram

    Chidmas

    ​The dimm without a heatsink is 30mm so again it still stands this is low … ​The dimm without a heatsink is 30mm so again it still stands this is low profile ram



    30mm is the standard height, not low profile. All memory without it's heatsink/decorative shroud will be 30mm.

    The DDR3 standard is here if you want to read it, although registration is required which is why I linked an overview from a major memory chip manufacturer (Micron also sell finished memory sticks under the Crucial brand).

    Chidmas

    ​You've slightly bastardised the argument the ram at the bottom states s … ​You've slightly bastardised the argument the ram at the bottom states super low profile.



    Huh? My original moan was that low profile ram was calling itself very/super low profile presumably because standard ram was getting called 'low profile' to distinguish it from decorated ram with tall fins and similar.

    As far as I know the only shorter standard under the normal 30/31mm is the 18/19mm very low profile one.

    It's very clever marketing since it implies that normal memory is the styled stuff which makes memory less of a commodity, as you might buy based on looks rather than just price. If that keeps more memory manufacturers in business and prevents a monopoly then it's a good thing.

    I just wish the desktop hardware community was a bit more knowledgeable about the engineering standards sometimes.

    Original Poster

    EndlessWaves

    [quote=domfranks85][quote=EndlessWaves]You don't say what you're using it … [quote=domfranks85][quote=EndlessWaves]You don't say what you're using it for so I can't say for sure if speed is important.


    Would this Ram work in my set up, plug and play ???

    HyperX FURY 16GB
    Edited by: "domfranks85" 26th Aug 2016

    Original Poster

    joshp

    There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 … There is really not much to buying RAM, just buy some low profile DDR3 low profile RAM from a known brand like Corsair ect..



    Would the above RAM work? in my setup??

    domfranks85

    Would this Ram work in my set up, plug and play ??? HyperX FURY 16GB



    yes

    Original Poster

    EndlessWaves

    yes


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