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    Hey guys, I'm planning on doing a lot of sight seeing in the near future and was wondering if you could give me any advice on a camera to purchase.

    I'm unsure whether to go for a cybershot digital camera, or maybe go for something like a digital SLR. Do you know the benefits they have over each other? Or could any one recommend a good camera or brand to go for?
    Video recording isn't essential, but would be a bonus I guess.
    Cheers. =)

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    Point and shoot digital camera will be more portable and cheaper.

    DSLR will generally produce better pictures and much more versatile as you can buy different lenses for different uses. Can be an expensive hobby though.

    All depends on how serious you are about photography.

    I generally go for the Canon brand. Got a Canon 1000d dslr for about £290 and havent put it down since getting it.

    As above.
    I have a Ricoh Caplio 'point and shoot' that I take everywhere, snap snapping at the sights. Fits in a pocket, takes video and good quality especially the macro. I love it.

    I also won a Nikon D60 DSLR more than a year ago and I use it for indoor shots, where it is a different class to the Ricoh. The quality in general is much better, but it is cumbersome and doesn't have video ( at least I haven't noticed it - i must read the manual some time). I have two lenses - the kit and a 55-200 and if I were to take it out, I would need both, so a case, probably a tripod as well. I do have these things, plus a Raynox magnifying lens and I use it for pics locally, mainly in the garden.

    Have a look in this thread
    Show us Your Photos - clicky
    and ask any questions you like there - some very knowledgeable, excellent photgraphers contribute to it.

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    Depends on budget and what you want to do.
    Personally I would go for a top end compact for sightseeing, however a DSLR will give you much better quality and control over pictures.

    However a top end compact will probably be under £200
    A low end DSLR will be over £200 and same again for lenses just to get started

    I sort of think that women, with bags and general stuff to carry, prefer a small point and shoot where men with just a wallet and a jacket are happy to sling a couple of DSLRs and a Camcorder around their necks. Just a stereotypical thought!
    I am a female BTW.

    I have a Pentax compact and a Nikon D80 dSLR Both give superb results. As people have already said, it really depends on how serious you are about photography as to how much, and what, to go for. Judging by your question regarding what benefits they have over each other, I suggest you go for a decent compact (Pentax?).

    Original Poster

    Thanks for your input guys, judging by what you've said and by the FAQs and guides I have read, I'll go for a compact, then maybe in the future get an SLR.
    Any recommendations on a good compact? As I'm getting a compact I'll set my budget of around £150-£200. (But anything cheaper would be welcome. =p )

    As I said, I have a Ricoh Caplio and I think it is excellent.
    I think you have to hit the reviews as models upgrade/change all the time.

    Panasonic lumix or a canon ixus are the ones that are generally pretty good.

    Never used the one Chesso mentioned but have seen her pics that she has taken using it and they are very good quality.

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    whatsThePoint

    Why post if you are so limited in this subject you have to try and make … Why post if you are so limited in this subject you have to try and make your invalid point with insults?you clearly know nothing about the quality of photo's and what makes a good one



    so what was rubbish? All the dslr's i've used have auto and scene modes. Instead of just posting he's wrong, why not explain why he's wrong?

    Yes, my DSLR has auto & scene modes and auto focus as well. The quality is fine - what you would expect from a Nikon.

    I have a Panasonic Lumiz TZ10 and i love it - its a high end digital compact with quite a big lense, cost around £270. Some features at a glance are:

    - Face recognition (remembers faces too)
    -GPS
    -25mm wide Lense
    -HD video
    -12mp

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    whatsThePoint

    A DSLR will not automatically take better pictures than a compactGive an … A DSLR will not automatically take better pictures than a compactGive an experienced photographer a compact and a beginner a DSLR and the compact will take better quality pics every time



    And if you give a pro a compact and a dslr the dslr will be better, if you give an amateur a compact and a dslr, then the dslr will most likely give the better results. Your point is?

    dcx_badass

    Well a DSLR will give you much higher quality pictures.



    Not really, a lot of it is down to the ability of the photographer. Equipment only helps you.

    Try again.

    Thanks, please, your welcome, much appreciated, pardon. Aware of any of these words?

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    mr.potato_head

    Not really, a lot of it is down to the ability of the photographer. … Not really, a lot of it is down to the ability of the photographer. Equipment only helps you.Try again.Thanks, please, your welcome, much appreciated, pardon. Aware of any of these words?



    of course it is. But the thread is about one person wanting one camera. Are you trying to say a DSLR will take worse pictures than a compact?

    Quite possibly. There are some extremely good point and shoot cameras around and some very poor DSLR cameras around too.

    Depends on what you buy.


    I think people would actually take your view into account if it wasn't for the fact you are so pig headed, I can only assume based on your posts that you have a snout on your forehead and a little curly tail poking out the back of your skull.

    My main point was that you need some skill, a good camera doesnt make you a good photographer but you quite possibly missed this with your inabilty to understand basic written dialogue.

    OINK OINK!!

    *inb4 whinging reply*

    Uhhhh...

    Speaking as a reasonably experienced photographer who owns an SLR, here are my observations

    1) An inexperienced photographer with my SLR takes better photos than with their own compacts.

    2) I take better photos with my SLR than with my compacts or with my friends' compacts.

    3) WhatsThePoint is insane

    How he, or anyone, can argue that a compact will take a better shot than a SLR is beyond me. SLRs aren't a magical fix that turn all photos to gold, but what they are is a means to strip away a lot of the barrier between what the eye sees and what the photo records. How they do this is by having super-low shutterlag, which means that when your finger goes down, the photo shoots near-instantly ( typically, in under 200ms, anyway - compacts sometimes take several seconds), more sensitive photosensors that allow for quicker shutter times, and better quality sensors that mean for a richer and more detailed image. A camera's just a tool, and an SLR is just a far more accurate tool.

    Original Poster

    Lol, guys come on, leave the arguing out and make it civil. =P

    So far I've found these 4 and I'm having a gander at the models past and present;

    Pentax Optio W80
    Ricoh Caplio R10
    Panasonic Lumix TZ8
    Canon Ixus

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    mr.potato_head

    Quite possibly. There are some extremely good point and shoot cameras … Quite possibly. There are some extremely good point and shoot cameras around and some very poor DSLR cameras around too.Depends on what you buy.I think people would actually take your view into account if it wasn't for the fact you are so pig headed, I can only assume based on your posts that you have a snout on your forehead and a little curly tail poking out the back of your skull.My main point was that you need some skill, a good camera doesnt make you a good photographer but you quite possibly missed this with your inabilty to understand basic written dialogue.OINK OINK!!*inb4 whinging reply*



    Are you talking to me or dcx?
    I agree with you, the photographer is 90% of the photo in my opinion, and obviously an ecellent compact will take as good or better photo's than a rubbish dslr. But if you got one person to take photos with say a mid range dslr and a mid range compact then its very likely the dslr's photo's will be better surely?

    I would go for the Canon or Panasonic as already mentioned.

    Flickr and DPreview are your friends.

    You could try a bridge camera. This one is a good deal at the moment although at the top end of your budget.
    hotukdeals.com/dea…002

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    Steve's Digicams - good site for reviews

    The Panasonic Lumix TZ8 is a good camera though, I've used oen and quite impressed with it.
    The Nikon S8000 gets good reports too

    It'll be interesting, if you have time, if you could let us know your choice and why.

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    oh and most important imo, get yourself down to jessops or somewhere to actually hold the final 2 or 3 you are looking at, nothing worse than having to use a camera that you are uncomfortable holding/using

    whatsThePoint

    What qualifications have you got in photography and what competitions … What qualifications have you got in photography and what competitions have you photos won or professional photographer's have judged your shoots to be good?Saying you are expearianced in using a camera so you know what your on about is a bit like saying i drive a car so i know how to win a grand prixBy the way some Sony compacts shutterlag is as low an Alpha so more proof you don't know what your talking about



    It's nice that the one point you didn't dispute (and badly, at that) is the one where I noted that you're insane.

    Anyway, qualifications? Meh, read a few books, watched a few DVDs, taken a few thousand shots, been published a few times times, provided the photography for various medium-scale events, had people say "Oh, that's nice". Yes, including professional photographers. Like I say, I'm reasonably experienced, and I've had enough tourists ask me to take photos of them to know what shutterlag on your average compact is like. It's good that the Sony Alpha has a sub-200ms shutterlag, but isn't that an SLR anyway?

    If you can wait for these to come back into stock the Fuji F80 shown here is a good compact camera
    hotukdeals.com/dea…536
    It's predecessor the F70 is £118.99 using the code at the Fuji shop

    Jammy1812

    Lol, guys come on, leave the arguing out and make it civil. =PSo far I've … Lol, guys come on, leave the arguing out and make it civil. =PSo far I've found these 4 and I'm having a gander at the models past and present;Pentax Optio W80Ricoh Caplio R10Panasonic Lumix TZ8Canon Ixus



    I'd have a look at the outgoing TZ7 rather than the TZ8, the naming is confusing but the TZ7 is the older 'premium' TZ whereas the TZ8 is the newer budget version. Both feature similar specs but the TZ7 has a much higher resolution screen, hdmi out and can use the more space efficient AVCHD for its HD video mode.

    Given you've mentioned such a broad range of cameras in this topic I'd agree with the recommendations to have a look at some cameras in the flesh and try to narrow down what sort of camera you want. There's no point deciding on a camera you like now because of the specifications only to find you don't like the size, weight or handling of said camera. I see it happen so many times, it's important that you find a camera you like the size and feel of that you're going to be content to carry around with you.

    John

    whatsThePoint

    What qualifications have you got in photography and what competitions … What qualifications have you got in photography and what competitions have you photos won or professional photographer's have judged your shoots to be good?Saying you are expearianced in using a camera so you know what your on about is a bit like saying i drive a car so i know how to win a grand prixBy the way some Sony compacts shutterlag is as low an Alpha so more proof you don't know what your talking about



    I think he's referring to some of the pre set settings that come with any given compact and the ability of the user to understand what they are. many compact users wouldnt know what you were on about, as an example, when asked what ISO speed are they using. I use a Nikon D80 and a Pentax Optio compact, both give excellent results, however, the film speed on the Optio is factory set at 800ISO, way too high in my opinion, and it showed in the picture quality. My point is, I knew something wasnt right because the pics were too grainy, and im assuming its factory set at 100ISO, so I made the necessary changes in the menus. many people wouldnt know how to, why to, etc etc. At the end of the day, if you dont class yourself as a compitent photographer then I would suggest going with a compact first, then move up to maybe a decent bridge camera before plunging into the very expensive world of dSLR photography.
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