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    can anyone give me some help re DLA and incapacity benfeits please?

    my partner and i are both working atm,but my partner has been told he shouldnt be working he has had the back/leg and foot pain for 4 years and its there all day every day and he cant get comfortable at all with it.he has been on strong pain kllers but he would fall asleep all the time on them so he couldnt take them as he would look after children whilst i worked
    i cant seem to get any clear answers about help we would get if partner stopped working.i would prob go to work full time and hopefully we should still get tax credits

    i have been advised my partner may not be able to claim incapacity benefit as he has previously been a stay at home dad whilst i worked and because of the pain so he didnt pay N.I for a long period

    the thing is i have read this money is only about £70 a week is that all the help we would get.do the job centre help at all with maybe him finding a job that woud maybe more suitable although his current job isnt strenuous so im not sure what job he could take on
    im worried about him giving up work as he lost alot confidence when he was out of work looking after the children.
    i would appreciate any advice thanks

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    call them and ask for a form? i claimed for my son and it has three levels, if you get the middle or high you can get carers allowance but that means you cant work i think more than 20hours weekly.
    They were really helpful with me.

    You could try visiting your local Citizens Advice Bureau or a welfare rights centre, they will usually have a dedicated worker who specialises in disability cases. Ours does and they are excellent. Good luck!

    im sure it doesnt matter if he has worked or not either to get it. You just have to apply and see what happens? your local CAB can help you fill in the form if you need help too.

    Original Poster

    im not sure we could claim for DLA
    he can walk although at the moment with a limp,although he is in pain when he works
    he doesnt need a carer or anything he is just in pain
    thanks for your help

    I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with serious problems not back and leg pain.
    I know people who work with no legs , so i cant see why your partner cant.


    seems as your partner has never worked in his life no?

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    louloo;2465962

    im sure it doesnt matter if he has worked or not either to get it. You … im sure it doesnt matter if he has worked or not either to get it. You just have to apply and see what happens? your local CAB can help you fill in the form if you need help too.



    i spoke to the job centre about incapacity but they said it was based on n.i contributions :?

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    A-n-d-y;2465970

    I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with … I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with serious problems not back and leg pain.I know people who work with no legs , so i cant see why your partner cant.seems as your partner has never worked in his life no?



    here we go :roll:
    re-read the post

    A-n-d-y;2465970

    I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with … I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with serious problems not back and leg pain.I know people who work with no legs , so i cant see why your partner cant.seems as your partner has never worked in his life no?



    she is asking for help not bad comments

    edjaned;2465975

    i spoke to the job centre about incapacity but they said it was based on … i spoke to the job centre about incapacity but they said it was based on n.i contributions :?



    incapacity is diferent-ill pm you

    edjaned;2465980

    here we go :roll:re-read the post



    I did read it , just sounded to me someone asking advice on there lazy partner to me :whistling:


    what is his medical condition all u stated is normal back pain

    Also seems u want about £200 a week for being lazy as u state £70 is not enough :?

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    A-n-d-y;2465970

    I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with … I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with serious problems not back and leg pain.I know people who work with no legs , so i cant see why your partner cant.seems as your partner has never worked in his life no?



    wtf are u on about?
    he has worked as i said he was out of work for a while AS HE LOOKED AFTER CHILDREN WHILST I WORKED
    why do peoples attituteds change when a father brings his children up rather than a mother :x

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    A-n-d-y;2465987

    I did read it , just sounded to me someone asking advice on there lazy … I did read it , just sounded to me someone asking advice on there lazy partner to me :whistling:what is his medical condition all u stated is normal back pain



    im not going into his medical conditions with u
    if i had a lazy partner wtf is he working now?

    Well he didnt pay enoughN.I so means he must not off worked much in his life , unless he was a stay at home dad at 16 onwards?

    A-n-d-y;2466003

    Well he didnt pay enoughN.I so means he must not off worked much in his … Well he didnt pay enoughN.I so means he must not off worked much in his life , unless he was a stay at home dad at 16 onwards?



    and whats it got to do with you?????????????
    She is asking for help and you are not helping-troll

    A-n-d-y;2465970

    I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with … I doubt you would get DLA for only back pain , this is for people with serious problems not back and leg pain.I know people who work with no legs , so i cant see why your partner cant.seems as your partner has never worked in his life no?



    I have helped hundreds of folk claim DLA over the years and it has 2 parts a mobility element and a care element. If he has has pain all the time and it gets worse if he walks then it is likely he would get the lower rate of the mobility element, the higher rate is for those who are either unable, or virtually unable to walk. For the care element, if he has problems getting into and out of bed, getting around the house, if he needs to hold onto furniture etc to get around is is likely he would qualify for the care part also, which is paid at 3 levels dependent upon how much of the day and/or night he can experience the problems. I have always filled in the forms describing how someone is at their worst, as this is often the time when they have the gretest need for help with mobility and care.

    Lots of folk in wheelchairs etc get DLA, and they work, so whether someone can or does work or not has no bearing on whether they are entitled to DLA.

    I suggest you call today for a claim pack, any successful claim will be paid from that date, even if it takes you a while to fill in and return the forms. You will need to get his doctor to sign a brief statement on the form, if he has a specialist or consultant then get them to sign as it will carry more weight.

    My opinion, is that he is likely to be entitled to DLA, but his claim will be more likely to succeed if he enlists the help of CAB, welfare Rights, Money advice type organisation to go go through the application with him.

    Good luck,

    DLA, DLA, fill that claim pack in today, is what I say :-D

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    A-n-d-y;2466003

    Well he didnt pay enoughN.I so means he must not off worked much in his … Well he didnt pay enoughN.I so means he must not off worked much in his life , unless he was a stay at home dad at 16 onwards?



    ok not that it has anything to do with u,
    he has worked from the age of 16 till our son was born 5 years ago.he damaged his back whilst helping somebody move a sofa.since then he has been in pain.all together he was out of work 3 years he has been in his current job for a year and a half

    MrGrumpyman;2466026

    I have helped hundreds of folk claim DLA over the years and it has 2 … I have helped hundreds of folk claim DLA over the years and it has 2 parts a mobility element and a care element. If he has has pain all the time and it gets worse if he walks then it is likely he would get the lower rate of the mobility element, the higher rate is for those who are either unable, or virtually unable to walk. For the care element, if he has problems getting into and out of bed, getting around the house, if he needs to hold onto furniture etc to get around is is likely he would qualify for the care part also, which is paid at 3 levels dependent upon how much of the day and/or night he can experience the problems. I have always filled in the forms describing how someone is at their worst, as this is often the time when they have the gretest need for help with mobility and care.Lots of folk in wheelchairs etc get DLA, and they work, so whether someone can or does work or not has no bearing on whether they are entitled to DLA.I suggest you call today for a claim pack, any successful claim will be paid from that date, even if it takes you a while to fill in and return the forms. You will need to get his doctor to sign a brief statement on the form, if he has a specialist or consultant then get them to sign as it will carry more weight.My opinion, is that he is likely to be entitled to DLA, but his claim will be more likely to succeed if he enlists the help of CAB, welfare Rights, Money advice type organisation to go go through the application with him.Good luck, DLA, DLA, fill that claim pack in today, is what I say :-D




    Thanks!!!! a positive reply!!!:thumbsup:

    edjaned;2466034

    ok not that it has anything to do with u,he has worked from the age of 16 … ok not that it has anything to do with u,he has worked from the age of 16 till our son was born 5 years ago.he damaged his back whilst helping somebody move a sofa.since then he has been in pain.all together he was out of work 3 years he has been in his current job for a year and a half



    you dont have to tell us details!!! you asked for help not criticism!!

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    MrGrumpyman;2466026

    I have helped hundreds of folk claim DLA over the years and it has 2 … I have helped hundreds of folk claim DLA over the years and it has 2 parts a mobility element and a care element. If he has has pain all the time and it gets worse if he walks then it is likely he would get the lower rate of the mobility element, the higher rate is for those who are either unable, or virtually unable to walk. For the care element, if he has problems getting into and out of bed, getting around the house, if he needs to hold onto furniture etc to get around is is likely he would qualify for the care part also, which is paid at 3 levels dependent upon how much of the day and/or night he can experience the problems. I have always filled in the forms describing how someone is at their worst, as this is often the time when they have the gretest need for help with mobility and care.Lots of folk in wheelchairs etc get DLA, and they work, so whether someone can or does work or not has no bearing on whether they are entitled to DLA.I suggest you call today for a claim pack, any successful claim will be paid from that date, even if it takes you a while to fill in and return the forms. You will need to get his doctor to sign a brief statement on the form, if he has a specialist or consultant then get them to sign as it will carry more weight.My opinion, is that he is likely to be entitled to DLA, but his claim will be more likely to succeed if he enlists the help of CAB, welfare Rights, Money advice type organisation to go go through the application with him.Good luck, DLA, DLA, fill that claim pack in today, is what I say :-D



    thank u vey much

    I hurt my back lifting a 32inch old style tv by myself , think ill try and claim now ......even though im not in pain everyday , im sure i can always make out i am :w00t::whistling::roll:

    How old is he??

    If you haven't paid enough National Insurance contributions
    You may be able to claim Incapacity Benefit even if you haven't paid enough National Insurance contributions if:

    you're aged under 20 (or 25 if you were in education or training at least three months immediately before turning 20), and
    you've been sick for 28 weeks, and
    you're present and resident in Great Britain for 26 weeks in the year before you claim

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    A-n-d-y;2466025

    ]www.scroungers.com is what i saw on bbc news earlier & daily mail , try … ]www.scroungers.com is what i saw on bbc news earlier & daily mail , try that site im sure that will help :whistling:



    did u jot a note of it for yourself did u?
    or did the swingers clubs/wife swapping draw your attention more

    A-n-d-y;2466047

    I hurt my back lifting a 32inch old style tv by myself , think ill try … I hurt my back lifting a 32inch old style tv by myself , think ill try and claim now ......even though im not in pain everyday , im sure i can always make out i am :w00t::whistling::roll:



    Not even remotely funny

    Original Poster

    A-n-d-y;2466047

    I hurt my back lifting a 32inch old style tv by myself , think ill try … I hurt my back lifting a 32inch old style tv by myself , think ill try and claim now ......even though im not in pain everyday , im sure i can always make out i am :w00t::whistling::roll:



    well that would be BENEFIT FRAUD which my partner is not doing he is in genuine pain u ****

    Banned

    edjaned;2466058

    did u jot a note of it for yourself did u?or did the swingers clubs/wife … did u jot a note of it for yourself did u?or did the swingers clubs/wife swapping draw your attention more



    Dont rise to the bait of a troll!!!!

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    MrGrumpyman;2466056

    How old is he??If you haven't paid enough National Insurance … How old is he??If you haven't paid enough National Insurance contributionsYou may be able to claim Incapacity Benefit even if you haven't paid enough National Insurance contributions if:you're aged under 20 (or 25 if you were in education or training at least three months immediately before turning 20), and you've been sick for 28 weeks, and you're present and resident in Great Britain for 26 weeks in the year before you claim



    he is 33
    the only time he has been out of work was from 29-32 but he was not claiming any benefits then i was working providing for us and he was looking after children

    oh you need to clear your inbox jan!

    The NI contribution rules for Incapacity Benefit are as follows

    The first contribution condition for Incapacity Benefit is that you must have actually paid Class 1 or 2 national insurance contributions in one of the last three tax years before you claim. However, you may be able to satisfy this condition with contributions paid in any tax year, if you haven’t been able to pay contributions recently, for example, because you were getting Carer’s Allowance or Incapacity Benefit, or if you were getting Working Tax Credit with a disability element before you became incapable of work.



    The second condition is that you must either have paid or been credited with contributions for the last two tax years before you claim. However, credited contributions will not always count towards this condition.

    Original Poster

    at the moment the doc said he wants him to stay of work for at least 3 months until he sees another specialist,the doc said there is no point him having a week or 2 of work as if the pain has not got better in 5 years he doubts it will go at all.the doc said he shouldnt really be working at all
    but my partner is saying he is going back to work next week
    sometimes ts worse than others,it is always there but last week it has flared up again i think it was due to him starting to cycle to work rather than catchthe bus to save money

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    louloo;2466093

    oh you need to clear your inbox jan!



    done it now sorry

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    MrGrumpyman;2466108

    The NI contribution rules for Incapacity Benefit are as followsThe first … The NI contribution rules for Incapacity Benefit are as followsThe first contribution condition for Incapacity Benefit is that you must have actually paid Class 1 or 2 national insurance contributions in one of the last three tax years before you claim. However, you may be able to satisfy this condition with contributions paid in any tax year, if you haven’t been able to pay contributions recently, for example, because you were getting Carer’s Allowance or Incapacity Benefit, or if you were getting Working Tax Credit with a disability element before you became incapable of work.The second condition is that you must either have paid or been credited with contributions for the last two tax years before you claim. However, credited contributions will not always count towards this condition.



    hmmmm i think we better go to CAB for furter advice as
    he doesnt need any help really,now and again i have to put socks and shoes on
    sometimes help out of bed but thats it really

    edjaned;2466134

    hmmmm i think we better go to CAB for furter advice as he doesnt need any … hmmmm i think we better go to CAB for furter advice as he doesnt need any help really,now and again i have to put socks and shoes onsometimes help out of bed but thats it really



    Yeah, good plan :-D

    but get the form first!! im sure Mrgrumpyman will agree?

    Soz i was a bit harsh , i blame the papers and news trying to make out everyone is out to scam , sorry i know its not true and i don't know u personally so shouldn't of jumped to any kinds of conclusions :oops:
    Im in a mood today and shouldnt of said what i did , i should know better :-(

    Original Poster

    u mentioned earlier somethingto do with tax credits dissability rate
    does that mean tax credits help u more as we are already on them to top up our wages

    If you were working whilst he was a stay at home dad, does he not qualify to have his NI contributions paid? That is what happens to stay at home mums, their NI contributions are paid, I cant see why it should be different for dads in a role reversal situation. You may need to contact the tax office and ask them whether he was entitled to receive his contributions paid.

    edjaned;2466150

    u mentioned earlier somethingto do with tax credits dissability ratedoes … u mentioned earlier somethingto do with tax credits dissability ratedoes that mean tax credits help u more as we are already on them to top up our wages



    we get extra tax credits as son gets DLA

    DLA isnt incapacity-DLA is extra and according to need.

    A-n-d-y;2466148

    Soz i was a bit harsh , i blame the papers and news trying to make out … Soz i was a bit harsh , i blame the papers and news trying to make out everyone is out to scam , sorry i know its not true and i don't know u personally so shouldn't of jumped to any kinds of conclusions :oops:Im in a mood today and shouldnt of said what i did , i should know better :-(



    thanks-you should:p

    louloo;2466147

    but get the form first!! im sure Mrgrumpyman will agree?



    Yes a doodle do :-D

    A-n-d-y;2466148

    Soz i was a bit harsh , i blame the papers and news trying to make out … Soz i was a bit harsh , i blame the papers and news trying to make out everyone is out to scam , sorry i know its not true and i don't know u personally so shouldn't of jumped to any kinds of conclusions :oops:Im in a mood today and shouldnt of said what i did , i should know better :-(



    Fair enuff :thumbsup:
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