Can anyone help me make sure this is not a fake website....

28 replies
Found 3rd Dec 2009
Hi just ordered from cjstoysbox.co.uk

Few things i noticed when ordering ....
* when registering date of birth was input as month/day/year (we dont do this in the uk)
* postage said - weight 1lb (the item is more than 1lb and im sure we dont use lb's in the uk)
*the town field said - suburb and the county said - state/town
* The site has dates of when products were added to the catalogue.... never seen this before?
* No contact details or phone numbers on the site
*Paid via paypal so hopefully im covered.

I did receive an email when registering and an order confirmation but just panicking now...

The bottom of the site says :
© Copyright CJ's Toy Box, A Division Of Sub-Zero Retail Limited 2009
Sub-Zero Retail Limited. Registered In England and Wales No. 7076229

Can anyone do one of those searches to check where the website is registered to?

27 Comments

Original Poster

Just used a search and the site is registered to someone called Carla and ive just found this page on the site -
]http//ww…tml

Im presuming she is just an individual who has set up a site and its just basic....:?

Domain name:
cjstoybox.co.uk

Registrant:
carla lanzon

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the service

Registrar:
Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-Reg.co.uk [Tag = 123-REG]
URL: 123-reg.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 08-Nov-2009
Renewal date: 08-Nov-2011
Last updated: 09-Nov-2009

Registration status:
Registration request being processed.

Banned

OMG its a scam!!

Original Poster

Guyver;7098945

Domain name: cjstoybox.co.uk Registrant: carla lanzon … Domain name: cjstoybox.co.uk Registrant: carla lanzon Registrant type: UK Individual Registrant's address: The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service. Registrar: Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-Reg.co.uk [Tag = 123-REG] URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk Relevant dates: Registered on: 08-Nov-2009 Renewal date: 08-Nov-2011 Last updated: 09-Nov-2009 Registration status: Registration request being processed.



Verdict - :thinking:

Oh nooooooo

Domain name:
cjstoybox.co.uk

Registrant:
carla lanzon

Registrant type:
UK Individual

Registrant's address:
The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their
address omitted from the WHOIS service.

Registrar:
Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-Reg.co.uk [Tag = 123-REG]
URL: 123-reg.co.uk

Relevant dates:
Registered on: 08-Nov-2009
Renewal date: 08-Nov-2011
Last updated: 09-Nov-2009

Registration status:
Registration request being processed.

Name servers:
ns45.ukhost4u.com
ns46.ukhost4u.com

Disclaimer
WHOIS lookup made at 21:14:01 03-Dec-2009

Original Poster

Thanks guys but what does that mean...... :oops: I cant tell if its genuine

Guyver;7098945

Domain name: cjstoybox.co.uk Registrant: carla lanzon … Domain name: cjstoybox.co.uk Registrant: carla lanzon Registrant type: UK Individual Registrant's address: The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the service Registrar: Webfusion Ltd t/a 123-Reg.co.uk [Tag = 123-REG] URL: http://www.123-reg.co.uk Relevant dates: Registered on: 08-Nov-2009 Renewal date: 08-Nov-2011 Last updated: 09-Nov-2009 Registration status: Registration request being processed.



snap :w00t:

Hope you can put a dispute it with paypal, but registered to an individual doesn't look like you'll get your goods. Lots of new websites get set up just before holiday season :oops:

Illegal for a business using a .uk tld to withold information (ie address, number) for a WHOIS search.

i'd panic.

Original Poster

choc1969;7098986

snap :w00t:Hope you can put a dispute it with paypal, but registered to … snap :w00t:Hope you can put a dispute it with paypal, but registered to an individual doesn't look like you'll get your goods. Lots of new websites get set up just before holiday season :oops:



But on the website there is a page ]http//ww…tml i think she sells toys at her kids school and has set up a site..... :?

Smaybelline;7098997

But on the website there is a page … But on the website there is a page http://www.cjstoybox.co.uk/shop/island.html i think she sells toys at her kids school and has set up a site..... :?



that proves nothing hun, it's amazing what scammers will do

she may be trading illegally too

Smaybelline;7098997

But on the website there is a page … But on the website there is a page http://www.cjstoybox.co.uk/shop/island.html i think she sells toys at her kids school and has set up a site..... :?


true.. and she's using osCommerce.. which would probably have a default US-template for the order form.

Original Poster

So where do i go from here? There is no contacts ...

Smaybelline;7099056

So where do i go from here? There is no contacts ...



Nothing to do but dispute through Paypal or your bank, you have all of the details and they should do a refund :?

Original Poster

choc1969;7099180

Nothing to do but dispute through Paypal or your bank, you have all of … Nothing to do but dispute through Paypal or your bank, you have all of the details and they should do a refund :?



Ok thanks so much for your help. Im gutted this item is out of stock everywhere and someone on this site reccomended it to me :x
]http//ww…087

Smaybelline;7099252

Ok thanks so much for your help. Im gutted this item is out of stock … Ok thanks so much for your help. Im gutted this item is out of stock everywhere and someone on this site reccomended it to me :x]http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/546087/screature-interactive-dinosaur-out-?t=546087



yeah and he did say


In fact check with other members before ordering, not convinced by the legitamacy of the site

I'd say give it a chance. It might just be someone starting up. Made their own website to save themselves money, ive ordered off some dodgier looking sites over the years

Original Poster

souljacker;7099325

yeah and he did sayIn fact check with other members before ordering, not … yeah and he did sayIn fact check with other members before ordering, not convinced by the legitamacy of the site



Fair enough only just seen that he put that at :

Last edited by Paddy_o_furniture : Today at 17:47.

After i ordered and so i didnt see it.

Original Poster

Ok so ive just emailed the site - no email given just a comment box - and asked for a refund. Then i just checked my paypal and its been refunded immediately.
Note: Hi Sarah, Refund as requested. If there is anything you need in the future please do not hesitate to contact us. CJ and Team

I dont get it.... and feel slightly bad now for doubting her?

anthonyt;7099332

I'd say give it a chance. It might just be someone starting up. Made … I'd say give it a chance. It might just be someone starting up. Made their own website to save themselves money, ive ordered off some dodgier looking sites over the years



They are connected to a site that has also just set up and registered with Companies House.....no full details there :?

Smaybelline;7099425

Ok so ive just emailed the site - no email given just a comment box - and … Ok so ive just emailed the site - no email given just a comment box - and asked for a refund. Then i just checked my paypal and its been refunded immediately. Note: Hi Sarah, Refund as requested. If there is anything you need in the future please do not hesitate to contact us. CJ and Team I dont get it.... and feel slightly bad now for doubting her?



Don't feel bad, but make sure the money isn't reversed out. This person could refund you but rip off others. Let's see if she's trading in a few months time :thumbsup:

Original Poster

choc1969;7099451

Don't feel bad, but make sure the money isn't reversed out. This person … Don't feel bad, but make sure the money isn't reversed out. This person could refund you but rip off others. Let's see if she's trading in a few months time :thumbsup:



Thanks so much for your help. I've noticed you have done these searches on websites before and it was you i was thinking of but i couldnt remember your username to message you.

Thanks so much :thumbsup:

Hi.. I am the owner of CJ's Toy Box. I can understand all your concerns especially at this time of year when a lot of people are out to scam others out of a LOT of money. It is a shame that no-one these days can set up a buisness without someone automatically saying it's a scam! Yes I use an AMERICAN website template which means a back to front D.O.B format.. I am working to resolve this. There IS a contact form where we can be contacted directly should anyone have any questions or concerns... I even say if you can not find what you are looking for on the website please contact us and we shall see if we can find it for you. It's true that we were lucky enough to find some stock of highly sort after items I:e Baby Born City Scooter and Screature... ALL SOLD OUT IN A DAY of putting them on the site and the customers that did not manage to get one due to not enough stock ALL RECEIVED REFUNDS WITH NO DISPUTES BEING RAISED BY PAYPAL OR BANKS. Please if anyone is concerned about our website email us before spreading slander.

Hi again... Just to lift some confusion.... we are a division of Sub-Zero Retail Ltd registered in England and Wales... the island delivery that has been brought up in previous posts is with regard to local delivery rates on the Isle of Wight... we get higher delivery costs here than mainland UK so I was just hoping to bring down the cost for the locals. :-)

anthonyt;7099332

I'd say give it a chance. It might just be someone starting up. Made … I'd say give it a chance. It might just be someone starting up. Made their own website to save themselves money, ive ordered off some dodgier looking sites over the years



Thank you for your support...it is very appreciated... we are a family run business just starting out after I was made redundant.... once again thank you and Merry Christmas :santa:

Why have you misrepresented yourself when registering the domain?
" The registrant is a non-trading individual who has opted to have their address omitted from the WHOIS service"

Hi again... When I set up the domain with UKHost4U it was an option that I selected with regards to privacy. This is the only reason it was done. Obviously I did not know how it was going to come up in a whois search, if I did then I would not have done it... If somebody could suggest how to change this then I will do if it helps people to have confidence in my company.

Original Poster

Hi Carla,

Im sorry that this has happened. I did not start this post to pick on your site. I was so excited that you had the item i wanted in stock and i placed my order. Then i was trying to find contact details on the site and just started panicking. A lot of people set up sites close to Xmas and so i started this thread to see if anyone had ordered from you before etc...

When i cancelled my order you refunded very quickly and then we emailed each other and you were lovely. Im very sorry - Its just there is a lot of scammers out there and i guess they ruin it for the genuine companys. I wish you all the best in the future with your site and business. :santa:
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