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    Can anyone recommend an external DVD writer please?

    To back up my 360 games :-D

    Cheap as poss please.

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    Why ext is it for ya laptop ?

    I run some Pioneer drives in my own caddies eg some sumvision ones ..or some ide adapters to usb / sata to usb adapters.

    I have not tried my liteon etau108 or my Samsung SE-S084C yet for xbox backup writes. but the liteon is supposed to be a good one for it however if you have a laptop drive already eg slimline they are not the best suited for backups over a desktop full size version

    Original Poster

    Thanks for this.

    Yeah, the slimline one on my Vaio won't write anything, I've only just managed to get it to read after uninstalling and re-installing in device manager. It's a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850s (FW 1.60) that gets bad ratings every where, and impossible to even find firmware to see if that helps.

    deek72;8562712

    Thanks for this.Yeah, the slimline one on my Vaio won't write anything, … Thanks for this.Yeah, the slimline one on my Vaio won't write anything, I've only just managed to get it to read after uninstalling and re-installing in device manager. It's a Matshita DVD-RAM UJ-850s (FW 1.60) that gets bad ratings every where, and impossible to even find firmware to see if that helps.



    Can you pop a disc in load up ImgBurn switch to write mode and copy the log so I can see the exact model number as reported in ImgBurn // like below


    I 12:20:45 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 12:20:45 Microsoft … I 12:20:45 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 12:20:45 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)I 12:20:45 Total Physical Memory: 3,404,812 KB - Available: 2,578,396 KBI 12:20:45 Initialising SPTI...I 12:20:45 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 12:20:45 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GSA-H55L 1.05 (H:) (ATA)I 12:20:45 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-1635S YV6P (I:) (ATA)I 12:20:45 -> Drive 3 - Info: PIONEER BD-RW BDR-202 1.08 (J:) (ATA)I 12:20:45 -> Drive 4 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7240S 1.03 (G:) (USB)I 12:20:45 Found 1 DVD±RW, 2 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 BD-RE!













    Download ImgBurn from [url]www.imgburn.com[/url] mirror 6. When installing go slow with the mouse clicks and untick the top box when you get to the ask toolbar installer (this way you just install ImgBurn)

    Can you also post the model number of your laptop.

    It probably will report as DVD-RAM UJ-850s just want to see what ImgBurn reports. I have version 1.61 firmware but is for UJ-850u (might be in same range) just need a little research to see if that could be used and help fix what's wrong with yours. (try a CD lens cleaner CD see if that helps in the meantime)


    Edit whilst your in ImgBurn as well goto tools / Filter Driver Load Order and press copy to clipboard then paste into a reply on here like below

    ===============================================Filter Driver Load Order - … ===============================================Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.5.1.3===============================================Upper Device Filter: redbook Upper Class Filter: [None Found] Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device Lower Class Filter: [None Found]Lower Device Filter: imapi Filter Name: redbook File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\redbook.sys File Version: 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2108) File Description: Redbook Audio Filter Driver Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version: 5.1.2600.5512 Company Name: Microsoft Corporation Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Filter Name: imapi File Name: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\imapi.sys File Version: 5.1.2600.5512 (xpsp.080413-2108) File Description: IMAPI Kernel Driver Product Name: Microsoft® Windows® Operating System Product Version: 5.1.2600.5512 Company Name: Microsoft Corporation Copyright: © Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8563510

    Can you also post the model number of your laptop.It probebly will report … Can you also post the model number of your laptop.It probebly will report as DVD-RAM UJ-850s just want to see what ImgBurn reports. I have version 1.61 firmware but is for UJ-850u (might be in same range) just need a little research to see if that could be used and help fix what's wrong with yours. (try a CD lens cleaner CD see if that helps in the meantime)



    MATSHITA DVD-RAM UJ-850S 1.60 (ATA)
    Current Profile: DVD+R DL

    Disc Information:
    Status: Empty
    State of Last Session: Empty
    Erasable: No
    Free Sectors: 4,173,824
    Free Space: 8,547,991,552 bytes
    Free Time: 927:32:74 (MM:SS:FF)
    Next Writable Address: 0
    Supported Write Speeds: 2.4x, 4x

    DVD±R DL Boundary Information:
    L0 Data Zone Capacity: 2,086,912
    Changeable: Yes

    Physical Format Information (ADIP - L0):
    Disc ID: MKM-003-00
    Book Type: DVD+R DL
    Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
    Number of Layers: 2
    Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
    Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track
    First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
    Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
    Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

    Physical Format Information (ADIP - L1):
    Disc ID: MKM-003-00
    Book Type: DVD+R DL
    Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
    Number of Layers: 2
    Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
    Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track
    First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
    Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
    Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

    Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L0):
    Disc ID: MKM-003-00
    Book Type: DVD+R DL
    Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
    Number of Layers: 2
    Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
    Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track
    First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
    Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
    Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

    Physical Format Information (Last Recorded - L1):
    Disc ID: MKM-003-00
    Book Type: DVD+R DL
    Part Version: 1
    Disc Size: 120mm
    Maximum Read Rate: Not Specified
    Number of Layers: 2
    Track Path: Opposite Track Path (OTP)
    Linear Density: 0.293 um/bit
    Track Density: 0.74 um/track
    First Physical Sector of Data Area: 196,608
    Last Physical Sector of Data Area: 16,580,607
    Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 2,283,519

    Performance (Write Speed):
    Descriptor 1...
    -> B0: 0x01, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
    -> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF)
    -> RS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x) - WS: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)
    Descriptor 2...
    -> B0: 0x01, B1: 0x00, B2: 0x00, B3: 0x00
    -> EL: 4173823 (0x003FAFFF)
    -> RS: 5,540 KB/s (4x) - WS: 5,540 KB/s (4x)

    The lappy is a vaio VGN FE41S ( Says that just under screen although on the bottom it says PGC 7V1M)

    Here's the filter order (I missed it when reading your post)

    Looks a bit suss tbh!!!

    ===============================================
    Filter Driver Load Order - ImgBurn v2.5.1.0
    ===============================================

    Upper Device Filter: [None Found]
    Upper Class Filter: SiRemFil
    Device: CD/DVD-ROM Device
    Lower Class Filter: PxHelp20
    Lower Device Filter: [None Found]

    Filter Name: SiRemFil
    File Name: C:\Windows\system32\drivers\siremfil.sys
    File Version: 1, 1, 6, 0 [1.1.6.0]
    File Description: Filter driver for Silicon Image SATALink controllers.
    Product Name:
    Product Version: 1, 0, 0, 0 [1.0.0.0]
    Company Name: Silicon Image, Inc.
    Copyright: Copyright (C) 2005-2006 Silicon Image, Inc.

    Filter Name: PxHelp20
    File Name: C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\PxHelp20.sys
    File Version: 3.00.83a [3.0.83.0]
    File Description: Px Engine Device Driver for Windows 2000/XP
    Product Name: PxHelp20
    Product Version: [2.0.0.0]
    Company Name: Sonic Solutions
    Copyright: Copyright © Sonic Solutions

    Here is 1.61 firmware listed on Sony support site support.vaio.sony.eu/com…htm

    Don't' install it just yet though until I see the exact model number (it seems that vaio VGN-N xxxxxx ship with the Matshita drive) but once i have exact number I could advise / research further.

    remove Upper Class Filter: SiRemFil and lower filter PxHelp20 then reboot you can do this from the tools filter driver load order in ImgBurn

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8563632

    Here is 1.61 firmware listed on Sony support site … Here is 1.61 firmware listed on Sony support site http://support.vaio.sony.eu/computing/vaio/downloads/info/info.aspx?l=en_GB&url=VAIO/Updates/EP0000144835.exe&m=VGN-N38Z_W&ip=EP0000144835.htmDon't' install it just yet though until I see the exact model number (it seems that vaio VGN-N xxxxxx ship with the Matshita drive) but once i have exact number I could advise / research further.



    Thanks for this help, it's appreciated. I've just been reading this thread re filter drivers for my dvd. It says how to uninstall them in the registry but nothing about how to install them?
    en.kioskea.net/for…ing

    deek72;8563663

    Thanks for this help, it's appreciated. I've just been reading this … Thanks for this help, it's appreciated. I've just been reading this thread re filter drivers for my dvd. It says how to uninstall them in the registry but nothing about how to install them?http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-81955-cd-rom-not-working



    You don't need em (when the upper and are are installed via various (hardware / software they can simply become corrupt) they are designed to be like a pass thru filter but can go wrong and start blocking data)

    The DL MKM you have are 8x and the firmware you are using only allows 2.4x and 4x (I usually burn my 8x mkm-003 @ 2.4x but I have hundreds of writers and know which ones work etc) the Matshita drive might not like the disc's @2.4x or 4x if you have just been trying them @2.4x try 1 @4x see if that works (I know they are expensive)

    You might also have better luck get Verbatim MKM-001-00 2.4x speed instead of the MKM-003-00 8x

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8563688

    Accordign to Sony the Fe41s has a pioneer drive in … Accordign to Sony the Fe41s has a pioneer drive in ithttp://support.vaio.sony.eu/computing/vaio/downloads/updates/index.aspx?m=VGN-FE41S&l=en_GB



    Strange. Lists it as a Matshita in device manger, imgburn and everywhere else. Ive just downloaded Everest and that says the same? Iv removed the filters. What would you recommend now? Will the filter drivers install automatically on reboot? Shall I try the 1.61 FW?

    PS, sorry, you keep posting answers as I'm typing the questions, lol!

    I had a dvd writer than was suppose to be single layer burning only as well. Quick firmware upgrade gave me dual layer burning.

    But remember, be careful when upgrading firmware. Quite easy to brick a dvd drive. I was doing one for a friend and ended up bricking it after some wrong settings. Couldnt even flash it to the backup of the drive I had took.

    Ended up just spending the £15 and buying a new dual layer burning from Play.com

    Original Poster

    hippyharry;8563783

    I had a dvd writer than was suppose to be single layer burning only as … I had a dvd writer than was suppose to be single layer burning only as well. Quick firmware upgrade gave me dual layer burning.But remember, be careful when upgrading firmware. Quite easy to brick a dvd drive. I was doing one for a friend and ended up bricking it after some wrong settings. Couldnt even flash it to the backup of the drive I had took.Ended up just spending the £15 and buying a new dual layer burning from Play.com



    Well, upgraded FW and rebooted. It started to burn this time but failed at 7%. Looks like it's an external one needed.

    deek72;8563724

    Strange. Lists it as a Matshita in device manger, imgburn and everywhere … Strange. Lists it as a Matshita in device manger, imgburn and everywhere else. Ive just downloaded Everest and that says the same? Iv removed the filters. What would you recommend now? Will the filter drivers install automatically on reboot? Shall I try the 1.61 FW?PS, sorry, you keep posting answers as I'm typing the questions, lol!



    You do have a Matshita drive I was just commenting on what sony reckons is in their hardware.

    deek72;8563836

    Well, upgraded FW and rebooted. It started to burn this time but failed … Well, upgraded FW and rebooted. It started to burn this time but failed at 7%. Looks like it's an external one needed.



    post the log for that burn and was that attempt @4x or 2.4 (which do you usually use)

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8563838

    post the log for that burn and was that attempt @4x or 2.4 (which do you … post the log for that burn and was that attempt @4x or 2.4 (which do you usually use)



    Tried again @4x. Got to 10% this time but then......

    I 13:41:41 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824
    I 13:41:41 Write Mode: DVD
    I 13:41:41 Write Type: DAO
    I 13:41:41 Write Speed: 4x
    I 13:41:41 Link Size: Auto
    I 13:41:41 Lock Volume: Yes
    I 13:41:41 Test Mode: No
    I 13:41:41 OPC: No
    I 13:41:41 BURN-Proof: Enabled
    I 13:41:41 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 5,540 KB/s (4x)
    I 13:41:41 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760
    I 13:41:41 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original Disc
    I 13:42:03 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!
    I 13:42:03 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
    I 13:42:05 Writing LeadIn...
    I 13:42:07 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3827487)
    I 13:42:07 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3827487)
    I 13:42:07 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)
    W 13:46:03 Failed to Write Sectors 361984 - 362015 - Reason: Peripheral Device Write Fault
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (1 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (2 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (3 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (4 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (5 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (6 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (7 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (8 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (9 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (10 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (11 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (12 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (13 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (14 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (15 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (16 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (17 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (18 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (19 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:03 Retrying (20 of 20)...
    W 13:46:03 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    W 13:46:08 Retrying (21)...
    W 13:46:08 Retry Failed - Reason: Illegal Mode For This Track
    E 13:46:09 Failed to Write Sectors 361984 - 362015 - Reason: Peripheral Device Write Fault
    I 13:46:10 Synchronising Cache...
    W 13:46:17 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.
    E 13:46:17 Failed to Write Image!
    I 13:46:17 Exporting Graph Data...
    I 13:46:18 Graph Data File: C:\Users\Warren\AppData\Roaming\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\MATSHITA_DVD-RAM_UJ-850S_1.61_09-MAY-2010_13-41_MKM-003-00_4x.ibg
    I 13:46:18 Export Successfully Completed!
    E 13:46:18 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:04:36
    I 13:46:18 Average Write Rate: 2,991 KB/s (2.2x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,525 KB/s (2.5x)

    You'll need Verbatim MKM-001-00 to stand any chance with that writer.

    You might be able to get a cheapo DL to work (one that is supposed to be burnt at 2.4x) as in so the writer you have has a write strategy for it.

    I have no MKM-003-00 discs' to try on one of my usb external eg the liteon I linked to @ start of thread but will now try one of my Verbatim MKM-001-00 @2.4x to see how it does. (will take over and hour though before I can post log etc )

    The Liteon Slimtype eTAU108 with MKM-001-00 @ 2.4x

    I 13:58:01 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 13:58:01 Microsoft … I 13:58:01 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 13:58:01 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)I 13:58:01 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,885,236 KBI 13:58:01 Initialising SPTI...I 13:58:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 13:58:01 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (J:) (ATA)I 13:58:02 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S PS0C (I:) (ATA)I 13:58:02 -> Drive 3 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.Z3 (G:) (ATA)I 13:58:02 -> Drive 4 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-M1 (L:) (USB)I 13:58:02 -> Drive 5 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.21 (K:) (USB)I 13:58:07 -> Drive 6 - Info: Slimtype eTAU108 1 EL45 (N:) (USB)I 13:58:07 Found 1 DVD±RW, 4 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE!I 14:03:05 Operation Started!I 14:03:05 Source File: F:\XBOX FEB 2010\DANTES INFERNO\DANTES_INFERNO.dvdI 14:03:05 Source File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)I 14:03:05 Source File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytesI 14:03:05 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROMI 14:03:05 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridgeI 14:03:05 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)I 14:03:05 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDFI 14:03:05 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)I 14:03:05 Destination Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype eTAU108 1 EL45 (N:) (USB)I 14:03:05 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)I 14:03:05 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824I 14:03:05 Write Mode: DVDI 14:03:05 Write Type: DAOI 14:03:05 Write Speed: 2.4xI 14:03:05 Link Size: AutoI 14:03:05 Lock Volume: YesI 14:03:05 Test Mode: NoI 14:03:05 OPC: YesI 14:03:05 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 14:03:05 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 3,324 KB/s (2.4x)I 14:03:05 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROMI 14:03:05 Advanced Settings - Force HT: No, Online HT: No, OverSpeed: No, SmartBurn: YesI 14:03:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760I 14:03:35 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original DiscI 14:03:35 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!I 14:03:35 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)I 14:03:36 Writing LeadIn...I 14:03:38 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 14:03:38 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 14:03:38 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)I 14:23:34 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1913760 - 3827487)I 14:43:37 Synchronising Cache...I 14:43:39 Closing Track...I 14:43:41 Finalising Disc...I 14:44:37 Exporting Graph Data...I 14:44:37 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Slimtype_eTAU108_1_EL45_09-MAY-2010_14-03_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibgI 14:44:37 Export Successfully Completed!I 14:44:37 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:41:31I 14:44:37 Average Write Rate: 3,192 KB/s (2.3x) - Maximum Write Rate: 3,360 KB/s (2.4x)I 14:44:37 Cycling Tray before Verify...I 14:44:41 Device Ready!I 14:44:45 Operation Started!I 14:44:45 Source Device: [0:0:0] Slimtype eTAU108 1 EL45 (N:) (USB)I 14:44:45 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: MKM-001-00) (Speeds: 2.4x)I 14:44:45 Image File: F:\XBOX FEB 2010\DANTES INFERNO\DANTES_INFERNO.dvdI 14:44:45 Image File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)I 14:44:45 Image File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytesI 14:44:45 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROMI 14:44:45 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridgeI 14:44:45 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)I 14:44:45 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDFI 14:44:45 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)I 14:44:45 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 14:44:45 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 14:44:45 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 14:44:45 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)I 14:53:18 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1913760 - 3827487)I 15:01:49 Exporting Graph Data...I 15:01:49 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\Slimtype_eTAU108_1_EL45_09-MAY-2010_14-03_MKM-001-00_2.4x.ibgI 15:01:49 Export Successfully Completed!I 15:01:49 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:17:04I 15:01:49 Average Verify Rate: 7,475 KB/s (5.4x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 10,791 KB/s (7.8x)

    I wouldnt burn with a laptop drive, i've worn 2 out burning less than 20 discs. I bought a freecom drive from scan, but when the newer tacky a-one discs came out it wouldnt read them. I bought a pioneer d116 i think and took the freecom drive out and put the pioneer inside it,, still going strong.

    [url]www.boffer.couk[/url] have one on the now

    Original Poster

    t0mm;8564421

    I wouldnt burn with a laptop drive, i've worn 2 out burning less than 20 … I wouldnt burn with a laptop drive, i've worn 2 out burning less than 20 discs. I bought a freecom drive from scan, but when the newer tacky a-one discs came out it wouldnt read them. I bought a pioneer d116 i think and took the freecom drive out and put the pioneer inside it,, still going strong.



    Cheers t0mm

    DrWeeden;8564429

    [url]www.boffer.couk[/url] have one on the now



    Thanks for that. 9.6 on Testfreaks. Ordered one, I can't be bothered trying to get mine working any longer.

    Thanks again for all your help dontasciime :thumbsup:

    deek72;8564503

    Cheers t0mmThanks for that. 9.6 on Testfreaks. Ordered one, I can't be … Cheers t0mmThanks for that. 9.6 on Testfreaks. Ordered one, I can't be bothered trying to get mine working any longer. Thanks again for all your help dontasciime :thumbsup:



    Which one did you buy ?

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8564547

    Which one did you buy ?





    Samsung SE-S084B

    ]Should be fine I think?

    I have the later Version the Samsung SE-S084C

    I hooked it up to test as I mentioned in first post not tried DL media on either the Liteon or the Samsung (the Sammy is writing to ritek s-04 at minute.for has been for last 14 minutes

    I'm not being funny but I did also mention in first post you would be better off getting a fullsize desktop burner (in external) like the lg as Laptop drives are really picky and you do have one of the worst in your laptop the matshita 850.

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8564596

    I have the later Version the Samsung SE-S084C I hooked it up to test as I … I have the later Version the Samsung SE-S084C I hooked it up to test as I mentioned in first post not tried DL media on either the Liteon or the Samsung (the Sammy is writing to ritek s-04 at minute has been for last 14 minutes



    Lol, wouldn't you know it! Currently trying an Aone 8x on Clonecd. Currently at 56%

    59%

    69% :?

    dontasciime;8564596

    I'm not being funny but I did also mention in first post you would be … I'm not being funny but I did also mention in first post you would be better off getting a fullsize desktop burner (in external) .



    Isn't that what I've bought?

    The link you provided to the Samsung is for the version I have eg the C not the B


    myce.com/rev…10/

    It may well be they are in essence the same drive. I would guess not but I'm not always right.

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8564640

    The link you provided to the Samsung is for the version I have eg the C … The link you provided to the Samsung is for the version I have eg the C not the Bhttp://www.myce.com/review/samsung-se-s084c-external-dvd-writer-review-22442/Conclusion-10/It may well be they are in essence the same drive. I would guess not but I'm not always right.



    No, I mean haven't I bought a full size external dvd writer?

    deek72;8564653

    No, I mean haven't I bought a full size external dvd writer?



    No it's a slimline model powered only by your usb port

    http://www.sexygadgets.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/Samsung-intros-SE-S084B.jpg

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8564702

    No it's a slimline model powered only by your usb port



    Ha, unbelievable! It's finished and working on the Aone 8x burned @2.4!

    Anyone want to buy a Samsung external DVD writer? lol

    Which is basically a laptop drive in an external box.

    Not a bad price that you paid though.

    It will be ok/ish but laptop/slimline drives have poor firmware support over their desktop counterparts are slower eg 8x (max) and therefore have somewhat iffy write strategies. As seen in the log below with write speeds of 3x 4x 6x (3x is not a valid write on dvd dl+ although it was a succesful burn* (apparently)

    I 15:31:33 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 15:31:33 Microsoft … I 15:31:33 ImgBurn Version 2.5.1.3 Beta started!I 15:31:33 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 3)I 15:31:33 Total Physical Memory: 3,406,252 KB - Available: 2,876,300 KBI 15:31:33 Initialising SPTI...I 15:31:33 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...I 15:31:33 -> Drive 1 - Info: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L YL05 (J:) (ATA)I 15:31:33 -> Drive 2 - Info: LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S PS0C (I:) (ATA)I 15:31:33 -> Drive 3 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7203A 1.Z3 (G:) (ATA)I 15:31:33 -> Drive 4 - Info: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A 1-M1 (L:) (USB)I 15:31:33 -> Drive 5 - Info: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112L 8.21 (K:) (USB)I 15:31:33 -> Drive 6 - Info: Slimtype eTAU108 1 EL45 (N:) (USB)I 15:31:33 -> Drive 7 - Info: TSSTcorp CDDVDW SE-S084C TS01 (O:) (USB)I 15:31:33 Found 1 DVD±RW, 5 DVD±RW/RAMs and 1 HD DVD-ROM/BD-RE!I 15:34:03 Operation Started!I 15:34:03 Source File: F:\XBOX MARCH 2010\SEGA_ALL_STARS_RACING\SEGA_ALL_STARS_RACING.dvdI 15:34:03 Source File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)I 15:34:03 Source File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytesI 15:34:03 Source File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROMI 15:34:03 Source File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridgeI 15:34:03 Source File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)I 15:34:03 Source File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDFI 15:34:03 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)I 15:34:03 Destination Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SE-S084C TS01 (O:) (USB)I 15:34:03 Destination Media Type: DVD+R DL (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 3x, 4x, 6x)I 15:34:03 Destination Media Sectors: 4,173,824I 15:34:03 Write Mode: DVDI 15:34:03 Write Type: DAOI 15:34:03 Write Speed: 6xI 15:34:03 Link Size: AutoI 15:34:03 Lock Volume: YesI 15:34:03 Test Mode: NoI 15:34:03 OPC: YesI 15:34:03 BURN-Proof: EnabledI 15:34:07 Write Speed Successfully Set! - Effective: 8,310 KB/s (6x)I 15:34:07 Book Type Setting: DVD-ROMI 15:34:50 Optimal L0 Data Zone Capacity: 1,913,760I 15:34:50 Optimal L0 Data Zone Method: Copied From Original DiscI 15:34:55 Set L0 Data Zone Capacity Succeeded!I 15:34:55 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)I 15:34:56 Writing LeadIn...I 15:34:58 Writing Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 15:34:58 Writing Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 15:34:58 Writing Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)I 15:46:29 Writing Layer 1... (LBA: 1913760 - 3827487)I 15:58:27 Synchronising Cache...I 15:58:31 Closing Track...I 15:58:32 Finalising Disc...I 15:59:12 Exporting Graph Data...I 15:59:12 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SE-S084C_TS01_09-MAY-2010_15-34_RITEK-S04-66_6x.ibgI 15:59:12 Export Successfully Completed!I 15:59:12 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:25:08I 15:59:12 Average Write Rate: 5,436 KB/s (3.9x) - Maximum Write Rate: 8,428 KB/s (6.1x)I 15:59:12 Cycling Tray before Verify...W 15:59:49 Waiting for device to become ready...I 16:00:02 Device Ready!I 16:00:11 Operation Started!I 16:00:11 Source Device: [0:0:0] TSSTcorp CDDVDW SE-S084C TS01 (O:) (USB)I 16:00:11 Source Media Type: DVD+R DL (Book Type: DVD-ROM) (Disc ID: RITEK-S04-66) (Speeds: 3x, 4x, 6x)I 16:00:11 Image File: F:\XBOX MARCH 2010\SEGA_ALL_STARS_RACING\SEGA_ALL_STARS_RACING.dvdI 16:00:11 Image File Sectors: 3,827,488 (MODE1/2048)I 16:00:11 Image File Size: 7,838,695,424 bytesI 16:00:11 Image File Volume Identifier: DVD_ROMI 16:00:11 Image File Volume Set Identifier: ec67c000MS UDFBridgeI 16:00:11 Image File Application Identifier: CDIMAGE 2.45 (12/06/2000 TM)I 16:00:11 Image File Implementation Identifier: Microsoft CDIMAGE UDFI 16:00:11 Image File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.50)I 16:00:11 Read Speed (Data/Audio): MAX / MAXI 16:00:11 Verifying Session 1 of 1... (1 Track, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 16:00:11 Verifying Track 1 of 1... (MODE1/2048, LBA: 0 - 3827487)I 16:00:11 Verifying Layer 0... (LBA: 0 - 1913759)I 16:08:28 Verifying Layer 1... (LBA: 1913760 - 3827487)I 16:16:44 Exporting Graph Data...I 16:16:44 Graph Data File: C:\Documents and Settings\Ascii\Application Data\ImgBurn\Graph Data Files\TSSTcorp_CDDVDW_SE-S084C_TS01_09-MAY-2010_15-34_RITEK-S04-66_6x.ibgI 16:16:44 Export Successfully Completed!I 16:16:44 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:16:33I 16:16:44 Average Verify Rate: 7,708 KB/s (5.6x) - Maximum Verify Rate: 11,080 KB/s (8.0x)

    Original Poster

    dontasciime;8564746

    Which is basically a laptop drive in an external box.


    Ah, I see.
    Speed isn't really an issue for me. Anyway, I'll leave it sealed for now and see how my Aones continue with CloneCD. If its ok I'll flog the new one.
    Thanks again for taking the time out to help me. :thumbsup:

    deek72;8564765

    Ah, I see.Speed isn't really an issue for me. Anyway, I'll leave it … Ah, I see.Speed isn't really an issue for me. Anyway, I'll leave it sealed for now and see how my Aones continue with CloneCD. If its ok I'll flog the new one. Thanks again for taking the time out to help me. :thumbsup:



    Speed is not the problem. Media support is more important and the write strategies used to control the burn.

    These are them for the Samsung SE-804B - The dvd ram (as foum only allows 10k chars)

    Firmware: TSSTcorpCDDVDW SE-S084B TS01Bootcode: TSSTcorpCDDVDW SE-S084B … Firmware: TSSTcorpCDDVDW SE-S084B TS01Bootcode: TSSTcorpCDDVDW SE-S084B BOOT------------------------------------------Overall supported media types: 366------------------------------------------DVD+R9 supported media types: 27DVD+R supported media types: 118DVD+RW supported media types: 25DVD-R9 supported media types: 11DVD-R supported media types: 126DVD-RW supported media types: 36DVD-RAM supported media types: 23------------------------------------------DVD+R9 supported media types: 27------------------------------------------CMC MAG D01 2.4xCMC MAG D02 6x,4x,2.4xCMC MAG D03 6x,4x,2.4xCMC MAG D04 4x,2.4xFTI D08 2.4xFTI R08 6x,4x,2.4xINFOME D01 2.4xJVCco RD2 2.4xKIC00000 D20 2.4xMBIPG101 R10 6x,4x,2.4xMBIPG101 R12 6x,4x,2.4xMKM 001 2.4xMKM 003 6x,4x,2.4xPHILIPS CD2 2.4xPRINCO4X D00 4x,2.4xPRODISC D01 2.4xPlasmon3 D02 6x,4x,2.4xRICOHJPN D00 2.4xRICOHJPN D01 6x,4x,2.4xRICOHJPN D01 6x,4x,2.4xRICOHJPN D02 6x,4x,2.4xRITEK D01 2.4xRITEK D03 6x,4x,2.4xRITEK S04 4x,2.4xRITEK S04 6x,4x,2.4xRITEK S06 6x,4x,2.4xUMEDISC DL1 4x,2.4xDVD+R supported media types: 118------------------------------------------AML 001 4xAML 002 8x,6x,4xAML 003 8x,6x,4xBeAll000 P40 4xBeAll000 P80 8x,6x,4xBeAll000 PG0 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG E01 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG F01 4xCMC MAG M01 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG M02 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG R01 DAXON AZ0 DAXON AZ1 4xDAXON AZ2 8x,6x,4xDAXON AZ3 8x,6x,4xDAXON CY3 8x,6x,4xDDT 001 4xDDT 002 8x,6x,4xDDT003 003 8x,6x,4xDIGVAL R02 8x,6x,4xDvsn+160 001 8x,6x,4xEMDP 000 8x,6x,4xEMDPAZ01 000 8x,6x,4xFTI 016 8x,6x,4xGSC502 002 4xGSC503 H01 8x,6x,4xGSC503 H02 8x,6x,4xIMC JPN R01 8x,6x,4xINFODISC R10 4xINFODISC R20 8x,6x,4xINFOME R20 8x,6x,4xINFOME R30 8x,6x,4xIS01 001 4xIS02.... 001 8x,6x,4xIS03.... 001 8x,6x,4xISSM 001 8x,6x,4xISSM 003 8x,6x,4xKIC00000 S80 8x,6x,4xLD S03 8x,6x,4xLD S03 8x,6x,4xLD S04 8x,6x,4xLGEP16 001 8x,6x,4xLONGTEN 002 4xMAM M02 8x,6x,4xMAM M04 8x,6x,4xMAXELL 001 4xMAXELL 002 8x,6x,4xMAXELL 003 8x,6x,4xMBIPG101 R03 4xMBIPG101 R04 8x,6x,4xMBIPG101 R05 8x,6x,4xMCC 001 MCC 002 4xMCC 003 8x,6x,4xMCC 004 8x,6x,4xMEDIA ID 001 4xMICRON 001 8x,6x,4xMICRON 002 8x,6x,4xMJC 003 8x,6x,4xMJC 005 8x,6x,4xMPOMEDIA 040 4xMPOMEDIA 080 8x,6x,4xMUST 002 8x,6x,4xMUST 006 8x,6x,4xNAN YA FLX 8x,6x,4xNANYA CHX 8x,6x,4xNANYA CLX 8x,6x,4xNANYA DR NANYA RJB 4xNSD R40 8x,6x,4xODMS 002 8x,6x,4xOPTODISC OP1 OPTODISC OR4 4xOPTODISC OR8 8x,6x,4xOPTODISC R16 8x,6x,4xPHILIPS C08 8x,6x,4xPHILIPS C16 8x,6x,4xPOMSI002 01 8x,6x,4xPOS R01 8x,6x,4xPOS R05 8x,6x,4xPRODISC R02 4xPRODISC R03 8x,6x,4xPRODISC R04 8x,6x,4xPRODISC R05 8x,6x,4xPhilips 081 8x,6x,4xPlasmon1 C01 8x,6x,4xPlasmon2 C01 8x,6x,4xRICOHJPN R00 RICOHJPN R01 4xRICOHJPN R02 8x,6x,4xRICOHJPN R03 8x,6x,4xRITEK F16 8x,6x,4xRITEK P16 8x,6x,4xRITEK R02 4xRITEK R03 8x,6x,4xRITEK R04 8x,6x,4xRITEK R05 8x,6x,4xSKC P16 8x,6x,4xSKC P80 8x,6x,4xSONY D01 4xSONY D11 8x,6x,4xSONY D21 8x,6x,4xTDK 001 4xTDK 002 8x,6x,4xTDK 003 8x,6x,4xULTRAN 202 8x,6x,4xULTRAN 212 8x,6x,4xVDSPMSAB 001 4xVDSPMSAB 002 8x,6x,4xVDSPMSAB 004 8x,6x,4xVIDEOLAR 002 8x,6x,4xVIDEOLAR 003 8x,6x,4xWFKA11 211 8x,6x,4xWFKA11 321 8x,6x,4xYUDEN000 T01 4xYUDEN000 T02 8x,6x,4xYUDEN000 T03 8x,6x,4xYi Jhan 004 8x,6x,4xDVD+RW supported media types: 25------------------------------------------CMC MAG W02 4x,2.4xCMC MAG W03 8x,6x,4x,2.4xDAXON D42 4x,2.4xDAXON W81 2.4xINFODISC A10 4x,2.4xINFOME A20 2.4xMBIPG101 W04 4x,2.4xMBIPG101 W05 2.4xMKM A02 4x,2.4xMKM A03 8x,6x,4x,2.4xNANYA DRW 4x,2.4xOPTODISC OP1 2.4xOPTODISC OP4 4x,2.4xPHILIPS 041 4x,2.4xPHILIPS RW8 4x,2.4xPRODISC W02 4x,2.4xPRODISC W03 8x,6x,4x,2.4xR0CO0JP0 W00 2.4xR0CO0JP0 W00 4x,2.4xRICOHJPN W01 2.4xRICOHJPN W11 8x,2.4xRICOHJPN W21 8x,6x,4x,2.4xRITEK 004 4x,2.4xRITEK 008 8x,6x,4x,2.4xSONY S11 4x,2.4xDVD-R9 supported media types: 11------------------------------------------CMC MAG. AD4 6x,2x,1xCMC MAG. AD8 6x,4x,2xD08 § ¢ 4x,2xJVC-RD81 4x,2xMBI 05RD30 4x,2xMKM 01RD30 4x,2xMKM 03RD30 6x,4x,2xPRINCORDL05 4x,2xRITEKP01 2xRITEKP02 6x,4x,2xTYG11 6x,4x,2xDVD-R supported media types: 126------------------------------------------AML 4xAN31 4xBeAll G16001 8x,6x,4xBeAll G40001 4xCMC MAG. AE1 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG. AF1 4xCMC MAG. AM1 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG. AM3 8x,6x,4xCMC MAG. AM4 8x,6x,4xDAXON004 4xDAXON008S 8x,6x,4xDAXON016 8x,6x,4xDAXON016S 8x,6x,4xDDT 02RG20 8x,6x,4xDDTRG001 4xDDTRG002 4xDDTRG003 Dvsn A001 4xDvsn-160 8x,6x,4xDvsn-80 8x,6x,4xEDMA01 8x,6x,4xFTI RG16 8x,6x,4xFUJIFILM03 8x,6x,4xFUJIFILM04 8x,6x,4xGSC001 4xGSC002 4xGSC003 8x,6x,4xGSC004 8x,6x,4xGSC005 8x,6x,4xGSC006 8x,6x,4xIMC JPN R01 8x,6x,4xINFODISC-R01 4xINFODISC-R20 8x,6x,4xINFOMEDIAR20 8x,6x,4xINFOMEDIAR30 8x,6x,4xINFOSMART01 4xINFOSMART02. 8x,6x,4xINFOSMART03. 8x,6x,4xISSM R02 8x,6x,4xISSM R01 8x,6x,4xKIC01RG080 8x,6x,4xKIC01RG160 8x,6x,4xKIC01RG20 4xLEADDATA S03 8x,6x,4xLEADDATA S04 8x,6x,4xLEADDATA01 4xLGE08 8x,6x,4xLGE16 8x,6x,4xLONGTEN 001 4xLONGTEN 003 8x,6x,4xMAM4XG02 4xMAM8XG01 8x,6x,4xMBI 01RG20 MBI 01RG40 8x,6x,4xMBI 01RG50 8x,6x,4xMBI 03RG40 8x,6x,4xMBI 03RG50 8x,6x,4xMC0 00RG00 0 MC0 00RG00 0 MCC 01RG20 4xMCC 02RG20 8x,6x,4xMCC 03RG20 8x,6x,4xMEI 00V003 4xMJC M005 8x,6x,4xMJC ME 8x,6x,4xMUST 001 4xMUST 003 8x,6x,4xMUST 007 8x,6x,4xMXL RG02 4xMXL RG03 8x,6x,4xMXL RG04 8x,6x,4xNAN YA A01 8x,6x,4xNANYA-JC001 4xNSDR40 8x,6x,4xONIDTECH 4xOPTODISCR004 4xOPTODISCR008 8x,6x,4xOPTODISCR016 8x,6x,4xPOSG04 4xPOSG06 8x,6x,4xPOSG08 8x,6x,4xPRINCO 4xPRINCO8X02 8x,6x,4xPRINCORGM1 8x,6x,4xPRINCORGM2 8x,6x,4xPlasmon1A 8x,6x,4xProdiscF01 8x,6x,4xProdiscF02 8x,6x,4xProdiscF03 8x,6x,4xProdiscS03 4xProdiscS04 8x,6x,4xProdiscS05 8x,6x,4xRITEK1a\|.u; 8x,6x,4xRITEKF1 8x,6x,4xRITEKF2 8x,6x,4xRITEKG04 4xRITEKG04 01 RITEKG05 8x,6x,4xRITEKM02 4xRITEKM16 8x,6x,4xSKC M801 8x,6x,4xSONY04D1 4xSONY08D1 8x,6x,4xSONY16D1 8x,6x,4xTCLDS01 8x,6x,4xTCLDS03 4xTMI001.2003 4xTMI003 8x,6x,4xTTG01 4xTTG02 8x,6x,4xTTH01 8x,6x,4xTTH02 8x,6x,4xTYG01 4xTYG02 8x,6x,4xTYG03 8x,6x,4xULTRAN102 8x,6x,4xUME01 8x,6x,4xUME02 8x,6x,4xUTJR001001 4xVANGUARD 4xVDSPMSAB 01 4xVDSPMSAB 02 8x,6x,4xVIDEOLAR 02 8x,6x,4xVIDEOLAR 03 8x,6x,4xWFI A16002 8x,6x,4xYi Jhan 001 4xDVD-RW supported media types: 36------------------------------------------80SONY-W0 -? 2xCMCW02 2xCMCW03 4x,2xCMCW04 4x,2xDAXON_RW2X01 2xINFOMEDIA 2xINFOMEDIAA20 4x,2xJVC/VictorT7 1xJVC0VictorD7 4x,2xJVC1Victord7 6x,2xJVC_VictorW7 2xMBI01RWG 20 4x,2xMC0 00RW01n0 2x,1xMC0 00RW01n0 4x,2xMCC 01RW11n9 2xMCC 01RW4X 4x,2xMCC 01RW4X 4x,2xMEI 02RW0002 2xMKM 01RW6X01 6x,2xMXLRW001M X 2xOPTODISCW002 2xOPTODISCW004 4x,2xOPTODISCW006 2xPRINCO 2xPRINCORW0004 2xPRINCORW2X01 2xProdisc DW04 2xProdisc DW06 4x,2xRITEKW01 2xRITEKW04 4x,2xRITEKW06 6x,2xSONY000000U9 1xTDK501saku]3 1xTDK502sakuM3 2xTDK601saku 4x,2xTDK701saku 6x,2x

    deek72;8564765

    Ah, I see.Speed isn't really an issue for me. Anyway, I'll leave it … Ah, I see.Speed isn't really an issue for me. Anyway, I'll leave it sealed for now and see how my Aones continue with CloneCD. If its ok I'll flog the new one. Thanks again for taking the time out to help me. :thumbsup:



    The writing software has very little to do with the actual write or fail (unless the program is really badly written that is)

    Hardware / media / drivers normally at fault for failed burns etc (eg the combination)

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