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Can I kill my next door neighbours tree??????

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My neighbours trees have always been a pain in the backside, but they are the original green type people.... and I really could imagine them saying "I always wanted to be a tree".

The problem in the past has been down to growth and blocking out line of site for my satellite system. However, I've become increasingly concerned at 2 trees in particular, that are quite recent additions and too close to my house for comfort!

One is a "holly tree". Particularly unpleasant - especially in the summer and the kids can't walk in bare feet on the decking or in the garden by the pool. It probably stands about 20 foot tall at the moment.

The second is a horse chesnut tree. Looking at photos in the garden from 6 years ago, the top of this tree, was just about the height of a 6' fence. It's now about 25' tall.... collosal growth and plenty more to come.

These 2 are only about 3 metres from my house. Roots and subsidence are a concern.

I've noticed near by the Rabbits hutch, we've not got a tree root appear - which has broken the surface and probably 3 inches in diameter. This one is running parallel with the house - so just a nuisance - but I'd imagine I have others aimed at the house!

Since it's on my side, am I allowed to stick a nice lump of copper into the offending root and kill it?

(As much as I'd love to simply ask them to remove the tree, I know the answer would be no - so much better to deal with the problem and them to just think "what a shame".


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cut them down while they're at work, they might not notice. hope this helps

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say nowt and do the deed with the copper jobby thing:thumbsup:

trees that close to your house may invalidate your buildings insurance too.

"water" the trees with sodium chlorate

id be worried about the roots from the horse chesnut they can get out of control, just cut the crap out of the brances etc tht are on your side of the fence lol

Do it, I also am a tree hater especially if they are too close too your house. You can lop off as much as you want that's over your land and the beauty of this is that u can legally give it back to your neighbours. Stick the copper in it!! Go on, do it!

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ctuk;5966850

cut them down while they're at work, they might not notice. hope this … cut them down while they're at work, they might not notice. hope this helps



LOL... If only!!!

We had the guttering, soffits and facias done a short while ago. Little did I know, but the guy doing it, used a ladder on their side of the fence, but had to break a bit of this enourmous weed plant thing they have. When I found out he needed access, I went over to ask, but got no reply. I eventually caught them in and said he'd needed access. Talk about daggers! Apparently this weed (and it seriously is a weed) had loads of catapillars on it - and they are devastated!

I kid you not!

dog_cop;5966855

say nowt and do the deed with the copper jobby thing:thumbsup:



Copper = bad!

Not sure what to use - or how quick it acts! I think they might get suspicious if they are both dead in the morning!!

You can't kill the tree but any branches or roots that come onto your land are tresspassing and you can cut them back as long as you return them to the owner of the tree.

Have a read of this

gardenlaw.co.uk/tre…tml


I wouldn't think that you could poison it though

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ctuk;5966861

trees that close to your house may invalidate your buildings insurance … trees that close to your house may invalidate your buildings insurance too.



Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that! Surely they have a legal obligation here?

I am someone who loves trees. However I will be watching this thread as I am experiencing similar problems to you. Neighbours 3 gardens down have a tree that has totally outgrown its environment. The tree is almost double the size of the houses and roots have travelled a long way. same concerns as you about possible subsidence and light.

Something I have read suggests that if a huge tree is suddenly removed subsidence effects may be greater than if it is pollarded over time. Does anyone know if this is true.

What would worry me in your case is if you kill it, will it fall on your property?

Think we all need trees but need to be appropriate size for the garden.

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Hack and Burn I say.. chainsaw anyone:-D

guv;5966901

Hmmm. I hadn't thought of that! Surely they have a legal obligation here?




Yes under either or both of trespass and nuisance law

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barneydog;5966897

You can't kill the tree but any branches or roots that come onto your … You can't kill the tree but any branches or roots that come onto your land are tresspassing and you can cut them back as long as you return them to the owner of the tree.Have a read of thishttp://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/trees.htmlI wouldn't think that you could kill it though



Interesting stuff! I can do the tree for trespass! The figures quoted dont look good!

Horse Chesnut safe distance = 23 metres! (Its about 3 or 4 top whack!) They also have the largest willow tree in the world (IMHO) at the bottom of the garden. That's way way taller than my house. Says 40 metres is the safe distance. Its 25m max. And it truely is enormous.

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WoolyM;5966906

I am someone who loves trees. However I will be watching this thread as I … I am someone who loves trees. However I will be watching this thread as I am experiencing similar problems to you. Neighbours 3 gardens down have a tree that has totally outgrown its environment. The tree is almost double the size of the houses and roots have travelled a long way. same concerns as you about possible subsidence and light.Something I have read suggests that if a huge tree is suddenly removed subsidence effects may be greater than if it is pollarded over time. Does anyone know if this is true. What would worry me in your case is if you kill it, will it fall on your property?Think we all need trees but need to be appropriate size for the garden.



Not just size - but position to proximatey to house.

barneydog;5966929

Yes under either or both of trespass and nuisance law



Thats the silly thing. People should take responsibility of their actions.

DKLS;5966902

If you touched one of my trees, I would go after your first born



I really don't think threatening to kill my children is appropriate.

guv;5966948

Interesting stuff! I can do the tree for trespass! The figures quoted … Interesting stuff! I can do the tree for trespass! The figures quoted dont look good!Horse Chesnut safe distance = 23 metres! (Its about 3 or 4 top whack!) They also have the largest willow tree in the world (IMHO) at the bottom of the garden. That's way way taller than my house. Says 40 metres is the safe distance. Its 25m max. And it truely is enormous.



Yes, Good link wasn't it. Now I have to identify the type of tree causing me problems.

Not condoning this in any way...but had a friend who was an electronics whizz who disassembled a microwave, then every night snuck into his neighbour's lawn and gave an offending tree a blast with his "ray gun"...:whistling:

barneydog;5966897

You can't kill the tree but any branches or roots that come onto your … You can't kill the tree but any branches or roots that come onto your land are tresspassing and you can cut them back as long as you return them to the owner of the tree.Have a read of thishttp://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/trees.htmlI wouldn't think that you could poison it though



good advice there

guv;5966948

Interesting stuff! I can do the tree for trespass!



:lol:



guv;5966948

The figures quoted dont look good!Horse Chesnut safe distance = 23 … The figures quoted dont look good!Horse Chesnut safe distance = 23 metres! (Its about 3 or 4 top whack!) They also have the largest willow tree in the world (IMHO) at the bottom of the garden. That's way way taller than my house. Says 40 metres is the safe distance. Its 25m max. And it truely is enormous.



I agree with you, have a nosey around their forums (I haven't had time yet), there seems all sorts of stuff in there about problems with neighbours trees even a thread about TV reception

gardenlaw.co.uk/php…a5e

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IndianaBlues;5966990

Not condoning this in any way...but had a friend who was an electronics … Not condoning this in any way...but had a friend who was an electronics whizz who disassembled a microwave, then every night snuck into his neighbour's lawn and gave an offending tree a blast with his "ray gun"...:whistling:



haha... Classic.

Did he have to wear a microwave safe hat?

guv;5966982

Not just size - but position to proximatey to house.Thats the silly … Not just size - but position to proximatey to house.Thats the silly thing. People should take responsibility of their actions. I really don't think threatening to kill my children is appropriate.


They probably have that 'special hole' in their tree for alone time.

No wonder they'd threaten you.:roll:

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barneydog;5966998

I agree with you, have a nosey around their forums (I haven't had time … I agree with you, have a nosey around their forums (I haven't had time yet), there seems all sorts of stuff in there about problems with neighbours trees even a thread about TV receptionhttp://www.gardenlaw.co.uk/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=2&sid=6aa0d1e1ecade638a6093c6b328e6a5e



Cheers...... Will have a good look in a while. (Going up to get ready to go out to a restaurant shortly.)

Rep to the helpful replies (when I get a mo)...... but none to the guy who wants to kill my kids.

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t0mm;5967024

They probably have that 'special hole' in their tree for alone time.No … They probably have that 'special hole' in their tree for alone time.No wonder they'd threaten you.:roll:



I LOL'd.

inb4 asking them to remove it
you thought about talking it with them, you never know they may remove it
in after asking them to remove it

put some diesel around the base of the trees this will rot the roots aswell

why dont you pay a professional and get them to foot say 50% of the bill ( neighbours will say no) but either way they cant take you to court as they never paid their bill :P

Hey thats me and my tree your talking about

anglee naybor

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black gerbil1;5967067

inb4 asking them to remove ityou thought about talking it with them, you … inb4 asking them to remove ityou thought about talking it with them, you never know they may remove itin after asking them to remove it



There were more than 10 words in the OP. Its understandable that you missed this.....

[COLOR="Red"]As much as I'd love to simply ask them to remove the tree, I know the answer would be no[/COLOR] - so much better to deal with the problem and them to just think "what a shame".

byronuk;5967164

put some diesel around the base of the trees this will rot the roots … put some diesel around the base of the trees this will rot the roots aswell



I think they might notice the smell and mess!!!

breeville;5967182

why dont you pay a professional and get them to foot say 50% of the bill … why dont you pay a professional and get them to foot say 50% of the bill ( neighbours will say no) but either way they cant take you to court as they never paid their bill :P



I don't think I follow your logic. If I paid someone to chop the tree down, it would be me that would get done for trespass and criminal damage. This is meant to be a job by stealth!!!!!!

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this bit on that site is what you need if your house does fall down you will be paid damages to the amount of

"1. The cost of repairs
2. The reduction in the value of the house if there is a loss on sale.
3. Any other expenses directly arising from the trespass.
4. In all likelihood the legal costs of the person who has suffered the damage.
5. An order by the court that the owner of the tree cuts back the branches or the roots or takes down the tree itself."

My brother said you should be able to get some advice for free from the local councils tree officer. He will basically inspect the tree(s) and tell you what you can do and if need be, get offending tree's felled.

Don't mention your satellite though lol

ctuk;5966861

trees that close to your house may invalidate your buildings insurance … trees that close to your house may invalidate your buildings insurance too."water" the trees with sodium chlorate



Sodium chlorate:thumbsup: good stuff but it will be withdrawn from sale soon....if you need any Guv, get it now..

fox2020;5967405

Sodium chlorate:thumbsup: good stuff but it will be withdrawn from sale … Sodium chlorate:thumbsup: good stuff but it will be withdrawn from sale soon....if you need any Guv, get it now..



Really? i better get some soon then.

Joey Bloggsy;5967652

Really? i better get some soon then.



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:viking::viking::viking::viking::viking:Bomfire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait until they go on holiday, pay for the trees to be professionally removed, pay cash use their name when you book it. After that just deny all knowledge of it.

I have known people do this twice, successfully.

Can I kill my next door neighbours tree??????



ctuk;5966861

"water" the trees with sodium chlorate



A distinct yes there methinks :lol:

wilkinsonplus.com/inv…440

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fox2020;5967405

Sodium chlorate:thumbsup: good stuff but it will be withdrawn from sale … Sodium chlorate:thumbsup: good stuff but it will be withdrawn from sale soon....if you need any Guv, get it now..



Shengis;5968172

A distinct yes there methinks … A distinct yes there methinks :lol:http://www.wilkinsonplus.com/invt/7224440



Don't ya just love it when a plan comes together?

I was going to take the missus out tomorrow to buy her a brand new car. Now she's got something else she needs to do!

So how well does this stuff work? Will it be obvious?

If I thought for one moment they'd be reasonable, I'd never dream of being sneaky. (And hey - I could go back to using the floor mounted 1.2m dish instead of the 1m roof mounted. This plan sounds good!

Nesima;5967968

Wait until they go on holiday, pay for the trees to be professionally … Wait until they go on holiday, pay for the trees to be professionally removed, pay cash use their name when you book it. After that just deny all knowledge of it.I have known people do this twice, successfully.



You thoroughly deserved the extra 3 orange circles of rep you just received. :thumbsup:

I wished I could be that devious! I think they would know though who "done it".

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lumoruk;5967255

this bit on that site is what you need if your house does fall down you … this bit on that site is what you need if your house does fall down you will be paid damages to the amount of"1. The cost of repairs2. The reduction in the value of the house if there is a loss on sale.3. Any other expenses directly arising from the trespass.4. In all likelihood the legal costs of the person who has suffered the damage.5. An order by the court that the owner of the tree cuts back the branches or the roots or takes down the tree itself."



When your neighbour is a tree hugger, its a bit unfair on them and unknown quantity if they'd be kicking off because I hate their trees! It would be fun, nonetheless, but the downside I'd have to register a neighbour dispute if I came to want to sell.

nikkib123;5967346

You have a right to be concerned. We have recently noticed a crack down … You have a right to be concerned. We have recently noticed a crack down the side of our house and the main reason it happened (we think) is the massive tree we have in our front garden! We have a structural surveyor coming out to assess the damage and tell us for certain. But tree's cause a hell of a lot of damage.



You have a tree in YOUR garden and did nothing about it? Are you mad? We bought this house in 1994. It had 3 trees in the front garden and about 6 in the back. We have zero tree infestations now (neighbour root excepted.) But I have a cunning plan!

nikkib123;5968429

It has a protection thingy on it!!I know, I know wished I'd lobbed it … It has a protection thingy on it!!I know, I know wished I'd lobbed it down as soon as we moved in :whistling:


cut a band of bark off all the way around the base of the tree, it will soon be a dried out dead protected tree :thumbsup:

ctuk;5968489

cut a band of bark off all the way around the base of the tree, it will … cut a band of bark off all the way around the base of the tree, it will soon be a dried out dead protected tree :thumbsup:



once its a dead protected tree can you cut it down? lol

:lol: i read the title wrong @ first

Can i Kill my next door neighbours lol

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ilovepink;5968538

:lol: i read the title wrong @ firstCan i Kill my next door neighbours lol



Reported for mistaking my threads for a troll thread.

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