Can we stop thinking that Laptops with a ****x768 screen for less than £200 is a good deal?

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Found 23rd Jul
Hi guys,

I've noticed recently that there are a lot of "deals" on this site regarding laptops with 768 resolution screens. I do realise that if you want a cheap laptop then you need to cut corners but this is just a horrific screen resolution. I bought a laptop with one of these screens a couple years back and thought it was fine until you actually see the difference of 1080p or higher. You can barely multitask with 768 as the apps/web pages look so horrible and you can barely fit anything on the screen.

Also, i think it would be a good idea to stop posting any windows 10 pc's that have only 32gb of storage. This just isn't enough in 2018 as just having a couple programmes installed could prevent you from having enough space to update your operating system. I've seen this myself with a rubbish old laptop. It becomes more hassle than it's worth just trying to minimise the amount of stuff you have on there.

By the way... I do understand that a lot of people can't afford more expensive laptops with better screens and lower amounts of ssd storage but i think it's kind of a false economy if you're going for one of them. I'd save a bit more money and buy a laptop that will last much longer and be a much more enjoyable experience.

For example... The new surface go looks like a promising deal with a lovely screen and plenty more storage for not much more money than the laptops i see on here that are considered "hot".

P.S this is just my own opinion, please do not spread any hate towards me if you disagree... just constructive criticism please
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I'd agee that a 768 resolution is hard to multi task but my dad, father-in-lae and most other people I know manage quite comfortably.

I personally hate the 768 resolution but that's because I'm used two connecting my laptops to two 27"screens so even a full HD seems small.

I think there is a clear market for both laptops though, however for me, I wouldn't touch one with a resolution that low, or storage that low.

I think the last Windows 10 update needed 32gb of free space to unpack!
I'd like to see the Windows 10 PC with 32gb of storage.
Not everyone uses laptops for the same reason as others do. If someone has one just for internet browsing and the odd word processing usage, then a x768 laptop is perfectly fine. No reason for them to be stopped being posted here at all really.

Where do we draw the line with this type of reasoning too? Do we say no more Xbox One S consoles because the higher resolution Xbox One X now exists? Nobody should post deals for monitors that have a resolution less than 4K now too?
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Id argue the vast majority of people wouldn't even know what a screen resolution is let alone be bother by 1080p, 1440 or 4k.
There are these weird things running around the place called "kids", some of us buy slightly inferior products for them as we all know it will get bashed about, puked on and dropped in a toilet.

As much as I'd like to destroy anything apple related - I like saving money to buy better things.
I just use for porn!
Any resolution is good enough,
Edited by: "gcmarcal" 23rd Jul
gcmarcal31 m ago

I just use for porn! Any resolutin is good enough,


And any keyboard
Over the age of 45 odds on people want larger resolutions so they can see the screen.

OP, do is a favour. Go find us 5 laptops that have 1080p screens, run windows and more than 32GB of storage. All for under £200 from a UK based retailer, new and a warranty?
Believe it or not hardware needs to be configured to a price point.
It's a bit like saying can we stop posting deals for white bread because wholemeal is better for you. Lots of people still eat white bread. Horses for courses and if there wasn't a demand, they wouldn't be sold at all.
You can always lower the resolution. I do think Full HD should be the bare minimum now.
OP, @fralex01 I agree with the 32GB storage bit, though I do use one 32GB machines solely for MS Office document viewing.

The screen resolution point is unjustified. There are many additional factors for screen resolution to be optimised with. One of which is as follows (another is resolution versus battery duration and weight).

You have not mentioned about people's eyesight which is a great miss, viz. visual acuity. You need to consider that the people have eyes. They see what they can see, with or without visual aid. For instance, do you have people who are visually impaired or who are older and need lens corrections?
If people still buy them, They'll keep selling them.
Preferring people don't post a deal because you don't like what's on offer is rather strange. You don't like it so no-one else is allowed to?

32GB storage is low but works, 1366x768 is low but works. Some of the CPUS I've seen used in cheap laptops are truly terrible but work. Cheap laptops are built to a cheap price point with cheap hardware, you want better, you pay more. It's the same with much in life including PCS, phones, tablets, TVs, etc, etc. It's the way the market works.

Personally, I much preferred 1600x900 as the ideal laptop resolution but know it will never be widely adopted. When 1080 becomes cheaper to mass produce than 768, we'll see the shift, but not until.
Hello all,

I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...

By no means am i saying that no one should buy a laptop with these specs, what i'm saying is is that some of these laptops surely cannot be considered a good deal as for not much more money you can get specs that are much higher and therefore better value for your money.

In regards to people talking about eyesight and visibility... Having a resolution of 768 does not mean that it is better for people with poor eyesight. you can have a 1080p screen and just turn up the text size etc. With a 768 screen it makes it a lot more difficult to multitask as the applications don't fit well side by side (you don't see as much).

what i meant with this discussion is that i can't really recommend a laptop with a 768 screen, 2gb ram, 32gb storage and an intel atom cpu for say £150-£200 when there are laptops with full hd, 4-8gb ram, 128gb ssd and 7th or 8th gen i3/i5 machines for around £300-£400 like this currys.co.uk/gbu…868

Thanks you all for your feedback
fralex016 h, 47 m ago

Hello all, I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...By no means …Hello all, I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...By no means am i saying that no one should buy a laptop with these specs, what i'm saying is is that some of these laptops surely cannot be considered a good deal as for not much more money you can get specs that are much higher and therefore better value for your money.In regards to people talking about eyesight and visibility... Having a resolution of 768 does not mean that it is better for people with poor eyesight. you can have a 1080p screen and just turn up the text size etc. With a 768 screen it makes it a lot more difficult to multitask as the applications don't fit well side by side (you don't see as much).what i meant with this discussion is that i can't really recommend a laptop with a 768 screen, 2gb ram, 32gb storage and an intel atom cpu for say £150-£200 when there are laptops with full hd, 4-8gb ram, 128gb ssd and 7th or 8th gen i3/i5 machines for around £300-£400 like this https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-white-10169169-pdt.html?awc=1599_1532357347_9dba66098f4c22ccdd6357d077ef68e2&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~Communities & UGC~47868&awid=47868Thanks you all for your feedback


What you are saying is not making complete sense. You say these cheap laptops cannot be considered a good deal when for not much more you can get better specs and value wise. You then go from a £150-£200 price point and double up to £300-£400, that isn't 'not much more' in anyone's book! You are jumping from one price bracket into a completely different price bracket.

Like I said above, you pay more, you get faster/better/bigger, that's how it works. You pay 2x more for your laptop, in general you are likely to get at least 2x better hardware. These cheap laptops have a market, just because it's not your market, doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.

Scaling text in Windows has never been brilliant and still isn't, even in Windows 10. I've seen several several issues with it in Windows itself and in third party software, so try to avoid scaling where possible. 100% is still the best and most reliable text size.
I have a laptop basically for formal typing - minutes, reports, applications. I don't game, photo edit or watch videos on it (I game on a console and watch videos on phone / tablet / TV). These cheap laptops are perfect for me, and can be hot deals. Sure, if I double my spend I'll get a much better laptop, but all it will mean to me is it boots up slightly quicker. For some people it's not worth spending the extra money.
fralex0115 h, 44 m ago

Hello all, I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...By no means …Hello all, I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...By no means am i saying that no one should buy a laptop with these specs, what i'm saying is is that some of these laptops surely cannot be considered a good deal as for not much more money you can get specs that are much higher and therefore better value for your money.In regards to people talking about eyesight and visibility... Having a resolution of 768 does not mean that it is better for people with poor eyesight. you can have a 1080p screen and just turn up the text size etc. With a 768 screen it makes it a lot more difficult to multitask as the applications don't fit well side by side (you don't see as much).what i meant with this discussion is that i can't really recommend a laptop with a 768 screen, 2gb ram, 32gb storage and an intel atom cpu for say £150-£200 when there are laptops with full hd, 4-8gb ram, 128gb ssd and 7th or 8th gen i3/i5 machines for around £300-£400 like this https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-white-10169169-pdt.html?awc=1599_1532357347_9dba66098f4c22ccdd6357d077ef68e2&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~Communities & UGC~47868&awid=47868Thanks you all for your feedback


I believe you made a gross error. I quote your offending statements.

"
In regards to people talking about eyesight and visibility... Having a resolution of 768 does not mean that it is better for people with poor eyesight. you can have a 1080p screen and just turn up the text size etc. With a 768 screen it makes it a lot more difficult to multitask as the applications don't fit well side by side (you don't see as much)."

In effect, you said, A is not better for people, you can have B, because you can turn B into A. But you just said A is not better for people with poor eyesight.

Diagnosis

1. You use in your life a circular logical fallacy to justify spending twice the money to achieve the same outcome.
2. With text size turned up, the windows need to take up larger areas, which in turn means your second sentence is another fallacy.
rcom9 h, 3 m ago

What you are saying is not making complete sense. You say these cheap …What you are saying is not making complete sense. You say these cheap laptops cannot be considered a good deal when for not much more you can get better specs and value wise. You then go from a £150-£200 price point and double up to £300-£400, that isn't 'not much more' in anyone's book! You are jumping from one price bracket into a completely different price bracket.Like I said above, you pay more, you get faster/better/bigger, that's how it works. You pay 2x more for your laptop, in general you are likely to get at least 2x better hardware. These cheap laptops have a market, just because it's not your market, doesn't mean they shouldn't exist.Scaling text in Windows has never been brilliant and still isn't, even in Windows 10. I've seen several several issues with it in Windows itself and in third party software, so try to avoid scaling where possible. 100% is still the best and most reliable text size.


There is cause for grave doubt in logical reasoning skills, see my comment above.
op ranting nonsense
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My own personal laptops are all 1080p+ while my work laptop is a Lenovo X230 with a 1280x800 screen, it's not as pretty as my own PC's but it's a high quality IPS screen and I have no issues working with that resolution as the smaller screen is limiting on size anyway.

The X230 I suspect is one of the PC's the OP is complaining about as they're available cheap now but I think it's an absolutely fantastic PC, my work get frequently annoyed with me as it was supposed to have been replaced with a newer X series years ago but I won't give it up. It's a little tank of a laptop which has survived daily use with barely a mark on it, it's not super slim so it's got a proper cooling system that runs quiet and cool (unlike the slim ULV machines which are noisy and hot) plus everything on it is easily replaceable rather than being sealed inside. It also has a full range of ports which these days are becoming a bit of a joke on newer machines with barely any on them. I think this type of laptop is a much better buy than a lot of the new laptops in this price range which are often a load of crap, companies should not be allowed to sell a Windows 10 laptop with 32GB storage.

John
fralex0123rd Jul

Hello all, I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...By no means …Hello all, I just want to weigh in to some of the criticism...By no means am i saying that no one should buy a laptop with these specs, what i'm saying is is that some of these laptops surely cannot be considered a good deal as for not much more money you can get specs that are much higher and therefore better value for your money.In regards to people talking about eyesight and visibility... Having a resolution of 768 does not mean that it is better for people with poor eyesight. you can have a 1080p screen and just turn up the text size etc. With a 768 screen it makes it a lot more difficult to multitask as the applications don't fit well side by side (you don't see as much).what i meant with this discussion is that i can't really recommend a laptop with a 768 screen, 2gb ram, 32gb storage and an intel atom cpu for say £150-£200 when there are laptops with full hd, 4-8gb ram, 128gb ssd and 7th or 8th gen i3/i5 machines for around £300-£400 like this https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-ideapad-320s-14ikb-14-laptop-white-10169169-pdt.html?awc=1599_1532357347_9dba66098f4c22ccdd6357d077ef68e2&srcid=369&xtor=AL-1&cmpid=aff~HotUKDeals~Communities & UGC~47868&awid=47868Thanks you all for your feedback


Ah I get it, for double the price you get double the specs!

whoed O funk it!
MrSprkle9 h, 14 m ago

Ah I get it, for double the price you get double the specs! whoed O funk …Ah I get it, for double the price you get double the specs! whoed O funk it!


if you think it's double the spec then you haven't read what i said. double the price yes, but it's much more than double as good.
fralex0138 m ago

if you think it's double the spec then you haven't read what i said. …if you think it's double the spec then you haven't read what i said. double the price yes, but it's much more than double as good.


But if you haven't got double the budget then that is irrelevant. Just because you can get better spec if you spend more money does not mean that a cheaper alternative is not appropriate in some cases. I have a top of the range hot hatch 185 brake horsepower car. It goes like stink and is a joy to drive on the open road. Most of the time, it is driven in an urban situation and the major concern is can I fit all the shopping in the boot. You could get a £500 banger to fit these criteria. Horses for courses op, for some people that grade of laptop fits the brief and the budget. Why spend more? Some people would be happy with a £500 banger. What fits the bill and all that
fralex0125th Jul

if you think it's double the spec then you haven't read what i said. …if you think it's double the spec then you haven't read what i said. double the price yes, but it's much more than double as good.


You do realise the PC market is not a nice easy sliding scale on price? You raely get exactly 1.8x better hardware if you pay exactly 1.8x more money. Dozens of factors come into play to determine the price of something.

It's also comparing two different segments, these cheapo devices with long battery life and smaller screens are aimed at a different part of the market than an all singing and dancing fully specced up laptop. Both are equally entitled to exist.

You wouldn't walk into a car dealership and complain their electric city car can only do 200 miles on a charge when you are looking for a diesel saloon that does 800 miles per tank, would you? Again, two different segments of the market.

Like psychobitchfromhell says above, it's horses for courses. If there are deals on HUKD you don't like but they are legitimate deals, ignore them and move along, that's what most other people do.
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