Cancer nurse sacked for "affairs" with grieving widowers

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Found 10th Mar 2010
Seems harsh to me.

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what having affairs with the grieving widowers or getting the sack

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sassie;8066426

what having affairs with the grieving widowers or getting the sack



The sacking.

>Sara was a very popular member of the team at the hospital.

I bet she was !!

In the same way a GPs should avoid relationships with patients, I think the same goes for nurses and other hospital staff.

Once might be considerded OK, but three times sounds like she was "taking advantage" of the men's situation.

And who knows if she may have tried to take advantage of the men in other ways (financially) !

I think she deserved to be sacked.

Love the sun. 'Victims' they weren't murdered they died of cancer?

lunacy ,done no wrong IMO

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guilbert53;8066443

Sara was a very popular member of the team at the hospital. I bet she was … >Sara was a very popular member of the team at the hospital. I bet she was !!In the same way a GPs should avoid relationships with patients, I think the same goes for nurses and other hospital staff.Once might be considerded OK, but three times sounds like she was "taking advantage" of the men's situation.And who knows if she may have tried to take advantage of the men in other ways (financially) !I think she deserved to be sacked.



This ^^^^ it's just totally unprofessional, good call IMO.

It didn't take the blokes long to get over their partners deaths !

I hate the Sun.

They get their 'stories' from facebook

bazzaric;8066479

I hate the Sun.They get their 'stories' from facebook



Do you know - I think you might be right!!! Investigative journalism at its finest!!

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bazzaric;8066479

I hate the Sun.They get their 'stories' from facebook



It is pretty dire, I like to have a laugh at their website every now and then.

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guilbert53;8066443

Sara was a very popular member of the team at the hospital. I bet she was … >Sara was a very popular member of the team at the hospital. I bet she was !!In the same way a GPs should avoid relationships with patients, I think the same goes for nurses and other hospital staff.Once might be considerded OK, but three times sounds like she was "taking advantage" of the men's situation.And who knows if she may have tried to take advantage of the men in other ways (financially) !I think she deserved to be sacked.



The men weren't patients.

master_chief;8066506

The men weren't patients.



:thumbsup:

lol, i know, reading somtimes requires understanding

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If you read the story, you will see she had/has long term relationships with two widowers of cancer patients. Hardly "affairs". She denies the third one too.

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queenlush;8066477

It didn't take the blokes long to get over their partners deaths !



What's the lawful amount of grieving time required?

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FilthAndFurry;8066561

What's the lawful amount of grieving time required?



A month for every year together!

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queenlush;8066477

It didn't take the blokes long to get over their partners deaths !



Tbh they were probably vunerable, she should have known better, she should know this being a nurse in palliative care. She got too involved.

master_chief;8066506

The men weren't patients.



It's dosen't matter it's all about professional conduct in your role, and the trust and Macmillan deemed her actions to be unprofessional, correctly in my opinion, what was she doing sizing the hubbies up of her patients, waiting for their lowest ebb to strike, it all sounds rather weird to me.

If you hold any job in public office be it nurse,armed forces, police ANYTHING you do if deemed unprofessional and detrimental to the professional reputation, bringing it into disrepute, you can be fired. Quite right as you are in a position of trust and responsibility.

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queenlush;8066477

It didn't take the blokes long to get over their partners deaths !



doesnt take most long while they are still alive


sex is sex

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tinkerbell28;8066608

Tbh they were probably vunerable, she should have known better, she … Tbh they were probably vunerable, she should have known better, she should know this being a nurse in palliative care. She got too involved.It's dosen't matter it's all about professional conduct in your role, and the trust and Macmillan deemed her actions to be unprofessional, correctly in my opinion, what was she doing sizing the hubbies up of her patients, waiting for their lowest ebb to strike, it all sounds rather weird to me.If you hold any job in public office be it nurse,armed forces, police ANYTHING you do if deemed unprofessional and detrimental to the professional reputation, bringing it into disrepute, you can be fired. Quite right as you are in a position of trust and responsibility.



You can't help who you fall for, and if she spends a lot of time with grieving men then it's almost inevitable. Looking at the facts given in the article, it is a harsh outcome. Two long term relationships formed over more than 10 years, she's hardly sizing up all prospective partners every day she goes into hospital.

tinkerbell28;8066608

Tbh they were probably vunerable, she should have known better, she … Tbh they were probably vunerable, she should have known better, she should know this being a nurse in palliative care. She got too involved.It's dosen't matter it's all about professional conduct in your role, and the trust and Macmillan deemed her actions to be unprofessional, correctly in my opinion, what was she doing sizing the hubbies up of her patients, waiting for their lowest ebb to strike, it all sounds rather weird to me.If you hold any job in public office be it nurse,armed forces, police ANYTHING you do if deemed unprofessional and detrimental to the professional reputation, bringing it into disrepute, you can be fired. Quite right as you are in a position of trust and responsibility.



lol, how lame

a year after they departed their professional contact, they started a relationship, on that basis they met previsouly before in different life roles......................

life isn't a magazine article

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master_chief;8066674

You can't help who you fall for, and if she spends a lot of time with … You can't help who you fall for, and if she spends a lot of time with grieving men then it's almost inevitable. Looking at the facts given in the article, it is a harsh outcome. Two long term relationships formed over more than 10 years, she's hardly sizing up all prospective partners every day she goes into hospital.



It dosen't matter palliatve care is hard and nurses do form huge bonds with their patients and relatives, HOWEVER the key is being professional and if they deemed her conduct as unprofessional, she gets the sack. Macmillan and the trust both seemed to agree on it.

I can see why they did it, the men would have been vunerable, had a lot of trust in her, maybe they saw it as an abuse of that trust, maybe they saw that as unprofessional.

Can't help thinking if this was a man, chasing after newly widowed, grieving wives, attitudes would be different.

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Alfonse;8066721

lol, how lamea year after they departed their professional contact, they … lol, how lamea year after they departed their professional contact, they started a relationship, on that basis they met previsouly before in different life roles......................life isn't a magazine article



It's irrelevant she holds a position of public responsibility, she can be held to account for her actions if the trust feel she has brought the profession into disrepute, she could even be struck off for it.

That's what having a job in public office is like, clearly no-one here gets that. You can be fired for lots of things that you may not think are "fair" or are "lame", that's the nature of the beast.

tinkerbell28;8066738

I can see why they did it, the men would have been vunerable, had a lot … I can see why they did it, the men would have been vunerable, had a lot of trust in her, maybe they saw it as an abuse of that trust, maybe they saw that as unprofessional..



policy on whistle blowing to the press regardless usually ends this way, in order to save face; pretty much standard procedure so its not even a principle of agreement here

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tinkerbell28;8066757

It's irrelevant she holds a position of public responsibility, she can be … It's irrelevant she holds a position of public responsibility, she can be held to account for her actions if the trust feel she has brought the profession into disrepute, she could even be struck off for it.That's what having a job in public office is like, clearly no-one here gets that. You can be fired for lots of things that you may not think are "fair" or are "lame", that's the nature of the beast.



We get that, we just don't agree in all cases such as this.

tinkerbell28;8066757

It's irrelevant she holds a position of public responsibility, she can be … It's irrelevant she holds a position of public responsibility, she can be held to account for her actions if the trust feel she has brought the profession into disrepute, she could even be struck off for it.That's what having a job in public office is like, clearly no-one here gets that. You can be fired for lots of things that you may not think are "fair" or are "lame", that's the nature of the beast.



how long is long enough then? where do YOU draw the line................................? 10 years? 20?

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creepy to me, but each to their own

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Alfonse;8066785

policy on whistle blowing to the press regardless usually ends this way, … policy on whistle blowing to the press regardless usually ends this way, in order to save face; pretty much standard procedure so its not even a principle of agreement here



Indeed.

master_chief;8066787

We get that, we just don't agree in all cases such as this.



I do though, it's a difference of opinion.:thumbsup:

Alfonse;8066813

how long is long enough then? where do YOU draw the … how long is long enough then? where do YOU draw the line................................? 10 years? 20?



It's not the point, I think it's creepy copping off with your dead patients husband, when there will have been a massive bond there...............I think it's an abuse of trust, in my opinion, I mean there are 100's more men out there, why?

Macmillan and the trust think it's unprofessional and they sacked her, that's just that really. Some people will agree, some won't, I do.

tinkerbell28;8066857

Indeed.Macmillan and the trust think it's unprofessional and they sacked … Indeed.Macmillan and the trust think it's unprofessional and they sacked her, that's just that really. Some people will agree, some won't, I do.



policy on whistle blowing to the press regardless usually ends this way, in order to save face; pretty much standard procedure so its not even a principle of agreement here


lol well read

there endeth the lesson

laters taters

quite right, they can be doing with a bit of cheering up at such a time.

must be bupa

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Alfonse;8066999

policy on whistle blowing to the press regardless usually ends this way, … policy on whistle blowing to the press regardless usually ends this way, in order to save face; pretty much standard procedure so its not even a principle of agreement here lol well readthere endeth the lesson laters taters



Indeed people do panic sack ESPECIALLY in the NHS, it's still all down to their interpretaion as to whether she brought the profession into disprepute, they decided she did, especially now the press havehold of it and deemed it a scandal, so that's that really.

That's life when you work in a public position

I'm gutted - last time I was at the hospital all I got was a cup of tea !!

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Humphman;8067237

I'm gutted - last time I was at the hospital all I got was a cup of tea !!



Repped :giggle:

I can understand it happening once, a genuine friendship turning to something else but to get involved 3 times with vulnerable men is just unprofessional. I'd be interested to know if these guys had much money. I think everyone in the country has really high regard for the Macmillan Nurses and this woman has tarnished that reputation. Glad they have sacked her from Macmillan. Also cancer patients may start looking at their nurses in a different light. I wonder if she got the job with the intentions of getting easy pickings. At some stage morals have to come into it.

Dam I just saw that this is at my local hospital! I told you the NHS services around here are crap lol
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