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    Can't decide if I'm being stingy or have a point..... lol

    Ok, darling daughter is doing her GCSE's at the moment and has a school trip coming up as part of her travel and tourism GCSE. In the letter it says it is one of 2 trips she must go on to be able to complete her coursework for the GCSE... But I have to pay for the trip.. Surely we shouldn't have to pay if it's towards her GCSE? It's not a massive amount, but I feel that we shouldn't have to pay for it, there was no mention of paying for trips before she chose that GCSE.

    Stingy or not? you decideeeeeeee... lol

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    Stingy ;-)

    If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see why the parents should be made to pay for it...
    Basically the school is saying that poor families can't have GSCE's!

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    PraxxtorCruel;5577583

    Stingy ;-)



    Actually, I've decided stingy isn't the right word. If it was just a normal trip I wouldn't mind paying, but it's for a GCSE so I begrudge paying! lol

    I think the school should fund it if there was no prior warning as they do not know everyone's financial situations, especially in the current economic climate.

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    Babbabooey;5577590

    If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see … If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see why the parents should be made to pay for it... Basically the school is saying that poor families can't have GSCE's!



    Exactly. I asked her what happens if I can't pay and she said "well we can't do the coursework", which means a fail.

    School should be footing the bill,you can be sure in another area,it would all be paid for.

    Same as swimming,they say its compulsory education, so some pay,some get paid by authority etc.

    How much they wanting?

    you cant put a price on education!
    saying that its only a travel and tourism, so its not a proper GCSE.
    in my day it was called leisure and tourism,
    stingy.

    Banned

    Babbabooey;5577590

    If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see … If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see why the parents should be made to pay for it... Basically the school is saying that poor families can't have GSCE's!



    totally agree have some rep:thumbsup:

    If you can afford it I would say pay it,but some schools have funds for poorer families who cannot afford things like this

    i agree that its wrong,
    up until 2 years ago my children were going on the school bus for free but now we have to pay £30 a month for a pass coz they decided only those that live over 5 miles should go free

    Banned

    are they asking for a donation towards the trip, or they saying if you dont pay she cant go

    not sure...I did food tech, every other week my mum was spending upto £10 on ingredients, although the fact the trip wasnt mentioned I guess is a big point. Im guessing your going to pay it anyway and are just looking for opinions? I dont think the school should be able to fail a student because they didnt attend a trip that required payment, yet if they said it was to improve their chances of getting a better grade and the cost was just to cover the cost of the trip (transport etc) then I wouldnt see the problem.
    Saying they must go on the trip to complete the GSCE is out of order IMO.

    Are you sure they havent just said the info they learn on the trip will be invaluable to the coursework?

    Banned

    edjaned;5577661

    i agree that its wrong,up until 2 years ago my children were going on the … i agree that its wrong,up until 2 years ago my children were going on the school bus for free but now we have to pay £30 a month for a pass coz they decided only those that live over 5 miles should go free



    contact your local education authority, if their nearest is shool is over 3 miles as the crow flies (although dont know why its like that as neither of mine can fly) you get a pass, but it has to be the nearest school your child can attend, not always the one you have chose

    Original Poster

    The thing I'm thinking as well, I know nothing about this other trip they have to go on, it could be a weekend in Vegas for all I know! lol

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    lil_tiger;5577697

    not sure...I did food tech, every other week my mum was spending upto £10 … not sure...I did food tech, every other week my mum was spending upto £10 on ingredients, although the fact the trip wasnt mentioned I guess is a big point. Im guessing your going to pay it anyway and are just looking for opinions? I dont think the school should be able to fail a student because they didnt attend a trip that required payment, yet if they said it was to improve their chances of getting a better grade and the cost was just to cover the cost of the trip (transport etc) then I wouldnt see the problem.Saying they must go on the trip to complete the GSCE is out of order IMO.Are you sure they havent just said the info they learn on the trip will be invaluable to the coursework?



    Omg, don't even get me started on food tech!!!!!!!! :x :x :x :x

    No doubt they will be able to actually do the coursework, our old school had a fund for parents who were stingy or couldnt afford it, this was used if a couple of kids couldnt come.

    churchill;5577626

    totally agree have some rep:thumbsup:



    Am waiting for it with bated breath still :w00t:
    You rep-tease, lol

    ChipSticks;5577719

    Omg, don't even get me started on food tech!!!!!!!! :x :x :x :x



    lol you def remind me of my mother.....how many times have you given the "well do you really need shallots because onions taste the exact same"(example) talk...lol I used to get it weekly when I had to get exactly what was on my list lol....cherries in Winter and things....certainly didnt think about it when I made that choice!

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    sassie;5577683

    are they asking for a donation towards the trip, or they saying if you … are they asking for a donation towards the trip, or they saying if you dont pay she cant go



    It just says how much they want, nothing about it being a donation, just how much the trip costs.

    I've rang the school but the teacher had already left, so left a message for them to ring me.

    Just wanted peoples opinions really, didn't want to kick up a fuss if I was just being unreasonable (which isn't unheard of for me lol)

    I think it's a valid point if you can't afford it, however if it's just the fact that you begrudge paying for another trip for your Daughter then it's a bit stingy.....I would be fed up if my Mum didn't let me go on a trip with my mates on principle and surely it can only help her in experience for her GCSE.

    sassie;5577701

    contact your local education authority, if their nearest is shool is over … contact your local education authority, if their nearest is shool is over 3 miles as the crow flies (although dont know why its like that as neither of mine can fly) you get a pass, but it has to be the nearest school your child can attend, not always the one you have chose



    My children get free transport as it's our nearest C of E school, but I didn't apply for one as I think they are a bit young for a taxi just yet!

    Banned

    are you sure daughter didnt forget to give you the letter when handed out, never heard of a school arranging a day out at short notice, we are told weeks in advance, actually my daughter going on one tomorrow and this will be to help towards gcse coursework too but where told and paid for it months ago

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    lil_tiger;5577765

    lol you def remind me of my mother.....how many times have you given the … lol you def remind me of my mother.....how many times have you given the "well do you really need shallots because onions taste the exact same"(example) talk...lol I used to get it weekly when I had to get exactly what was on my list lol....cherries in Winter and things....certainly didnt think about it when I made that choice!



    My daughter wanted to make a curry a few weeks ago, she said it was ok to use a curry sauce jar as it's classed a basic item or something. teacher said "yes that's fine, but next week make a curry from scratch"

    I was like, "do you know how much all those spices and everything cost? make pasta darling!"


    lol

    can you afford it? if you can pay it, if not ask for help, alot of schools have an amount put by to help towards those who cant pay full amount


    *waits for the 'if you cant pay for your kids why have them' brigade*

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    sassie;5577796

    are you sure daughter didnt forget to give you the letter when handed … are you sure daughter didnt forget to give you the letter when handed out, never heard of a school arranging a day out at short notice, we are told weeks in advance, actually my daughter going on one tomorrow and this will be to help towards gcse coursework too but where told and paid for it months ago



    They were given the letter last week, on Wednesday, daughter mentioned it, but I only got the letter last night (down to daugther, not school). Trip isn't for ages but they want money now.

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    ChipSticks;5577813

    They were given the letter last week, on Wednesday, daughter mentioned … They were given the letter last week, on Wednesday, daughter mentioned it, but I only got the letter last night. Trip isn't for ages but they want money now.



    yes same as my daughter, my daughters is for geography, you could always ask the school for a little more time to pay, although by the souns of it it isnt about the cost - lol

    ChipSticks;5577797

    My daughter wanted to make a curry a few weeks ago, she said it was ok to … My daughter wanted to make a curry a few weeks ago, she said it was ok to use a curry sauce jar as it's classed a basic item or something. teacher said "yes that's fine, but next week make a curry from scratch"I was like, "do you know how much all those spices and everything cost? make pasta darling!" lol



    lol yup...been there, done that...although pasta still needs all the herbs! we werent even allowed dried herbs..all had to be fresh in the end we tried sharing out the lists (between friends) and then sharing everyones stuff...never worked as someone always forgot their ingredient!

    I think you should just pay it as you say its just a small amount anyway.
    Some might say why should people without kids have to pay more taxes,fuel tax council tax etc so families can live cheaper? Afterall most families dont pay tax until their earning about 21 grand(tax credits etc) whereas single folks start paying after 6 grand.Not really fair is it?;-)

    I await a ferocious response:-D

    i would call the school to discuss it and find out about the other trip, if they have to go to pass you should have been told before the subject was selected

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    sassie;5577825

    yes same as my daughter, my daughters is for geography, you could always … yes same as my daughter, my daughters is for geography, you could always ask the school for a little more time to pay, although by the souns of it it isnt about the cost - lol



    lol. It was the time frame that was a problem to start with, I'm skint this week anyway, but that just got me thinking, why should we have to pay anyway grrr lol. but yes, that's what I'm gonna aim for when I speak to teacher, will have a moan about it, then just ask for more time to pay.

    Like I already said, just wanted to know if I was being unreasonable

    hooray henry;5577836

    I think you should just pay it as you say its just a small amount anyway. … I think you should just pay it as you say its just a small amount anyway. Some might say why should people without kids have to pay more taxes,fuel tax council tax etc so families can live cheaper? Afterall most families dont pay tax until their earning about 21 grand(tax credits etc) whereas single folks start paying after 6 grand.Not really fair is it?;-)I await a ferocious response:-D



    Blimey opening a can of worms there........what about the taxes our kids will pay when they are older and what about the fact that as a family many parents both work, putting them over threshold...I work just 14 hours a week yet I still pay tax and NI :x

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    ChipSticks;5577895

    lol. It was the time frame that was a problem to start with, I'm skint … lol. It was the time frame that was a problem to start with, I'm skint this week anyway, but that just got me thinking, why should we have to pay anyway grrr lol. but yes, that's what I'm gonna aim for when I speak to teacher, will have a moan about it, then just ask for more time to pay. Like I already said, just wanted to know if I was being unreasonable



    yeah, im sure they will give you more time, we where aware of the trip when we went to the meeting to discuss her options for gcse, so no shock it was coming

    Babbabooey;5577590

    If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see … If she HAS to go on it otherwise she will fail the GCSE then I don't see why the parents should be made to pay for it... Basically the school is saying that poor families can't have GSCE's!


    +1
    landofdan;5577621

    saying that its only a travel and tourism, so its not a proper GCSE.


    +1 :giggle:

    There was a sixthform trip that basically you had to attend or you couldnt do the coursework, but the teacher just sent letters explaining the cost of the bus and how much it worked out per person. Asked for a donation of X amount (the amount per child) but said that it wasnt compulsory. This led to me and 1 other person paying, that annoying thing was it was something ridiculous like £7 or something, and most of the kids were getting £30 a week EMA (I wasnt). It wasnt that they or their parents couldnt pay, it was that they didnt want to. Teacher actually ended up paying half of it herself because school said they wouldnt pay, but she said that she couldnt force people to pay because they wouldnt go.

    Its people like that who stop them offering that option, meaning people who really cant afford it miss out.

    Banned

    Babbabooey;5577747

    Am waiting for it with bated breath still :w00t:You rep-tease, lol



    youve got it now lol i went to make dinner

    lmao

    kelly_o_fanatic;5578094

    There was a sixthform trip that basically you had to attend or you … There was a sixthform trip that basically you had to attend or you couldnt do the coursework, but the teacher just sent letters explaining the cost of the bus and how much it worked out per person. Asked for a donation of X amount (the amount per child) but said that it wasnt compulsory. This led to me and 1 other person paying, that annoying thing was it was something ridiculous like £7 or something, and most of the kids were getting £30 a week EMA (I wasnt). It wasnt that they or their parents couldnt pay, it was that they didnt want to. Teacher actually ended up paying half of it herself because school said they wouldnt pay, but she said that she couldnt force people to pay because they wouldnt go.Its people like that who stop them offering that option, meaning people who really cant afford it miss out.



    I agree.

    If everyone paid a little share - the cost might even be lower - but there's always more opting out of donations than putting in.

    I work with the school parents association, and they work their butts off trying to earn money to help pay for the childrens trips. When you ask a parent to donate 1 hour of their time to assist they run a mile.

    Everyone wants stuff for free these days! And then they complain when kids don't go on trips.

    edjaned;5577661

    i agree that its wrong,up until 2 years ago my children were going on the … i agree that its wrong,up until 2 years ago my children were going on the school bus for free but now we have to pay £30 a month for a pass coz they decided only those that live over 5 miles should go free



    All children who are under 8 years of age are entitled to statutory free transport if they live more than 2 miles from their nearest appropriate school. All children who are 8 years and over are entitled to statutory free transport if they live more than 3 miles from their nearest appropriate school. Children who have a Statement of Special Educational Needs and who live less than these statutory distances from school may be entitled to free transport if their special needs make it difficult for them to get to school. For example, your child may be severely autistic and the journey to school may be very difficult even when you accompany them.

    This is the rules here for transport,the older the child,the more they expected to travel and pay for it.It varies all up and down the U.K.

    Butterflies;5578328

    I agree.If everyone paid a little share - the cost might even be lower - … I agree.If everyone paid a little share - the cost might even be lower - but there's always more opting out of donations than putting in.I work with the school parents association, and they work their butts off trying to earn money to help pay for the childrens trips. When you ask a parent to donate 1 hour of their time to assist they run a mile.Everyone wants stuff for free these days! And then they complain when kids don't go on trips.

    .

    Totally agree. I am on the committee of the PTA and we raise lots of money for the school, some of what is for school trips fund for when a kid can't afford. Unfortunately we have an awful lot of 'won't pay' attitude and thats stopping the number of school trips for everyone. I am fed up of subsidising the people who won't pay, and can't be bothered to help at PTA fundraising events either.
    If you've got the money - pay and stop being so tight.

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    bluedave;5578648

    . Totally agree. I am on the committee of the PTA and we raise lots of … . Totally agree. I am on the committee of the PTA and we raise lots of money for the school, some of what is for school trips fund for when a kid can't afford. Unfortunately we have an awful lot of 'won't pay' attitude and thats stopping the number of school trips for everyone. I am fed up of subsidising the people who won't pay, and can't be bothered to help at PTA fundraising events either.If you've got the money - pay and stop being so tight.



    its disgusting that people arent prepared to pay a £1 for a school trip, the amount of people i hear say "we aint paying why should we" it really gets my goat

    Banned

    cheap skate.. :thumbsup:
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