Car for sale... Is this a scam ?

37 replies
Found 13th Mar 2009
Hi all, I recently noticed a car for sale in the local paper, I called the phone number but got no reply, the seller however published an email addy so I wrote expressing my interest in the car...

Just wondered if it is a scam, how would the scammer actually carry it out ?

Below is the response I received (sorry its rather convoluted !)



Hi ***** and sorry for the late reply,

I am emailing you regarding the 2007 Seat Leon 2.0 TDI that I have for sale.
Please take some time to read this email carefully, because I want you to understand how this transaction works.

The car is in perfect condition, with 12,900 miles, non-smoker, never been involved in any crash.The car is located in Plymouth. The full service history is available and the MOT expires in Nov 2009. The price that I am asking for this car is GBP 5800.
I have recently relocated with my job to Augsburg / Germany, where I will be staying for the next year, and I need a car here very fast. I've already found one to buy but first I have to sell the Seat.

A few days ago a person told me that he is very interested in purchasing and I had to fly back to UK to close the deal. Since I trusted his word, I came to Plymouth the next day, but when I arrived I called him and he didn't answer the phone anymore. The problem is not about the money that I spent for the plane tickets.. but I lost 2 working days for nothing. Time is very precious for me as I am involved in some major events of my career right now. I am a serious person and this person disappointed me.

I just want to make sure that you are seriously interested in buying this car before we meet and I will fly to UK only if I have an assurance of your intentions. Of course it will be no problem if you decide not to buy the car. But I want to be sure that you will be there to meet me and handle the deal in a civilised manner.

The best way you can prove your serious intentions is to have 50% of the total amount (2900 GBP) transferred into your name via WesternUnion. All you have to do is find a Western Union office in your town and go there with your best friend or your wife. He/she will have to send the money into your name, with Plymouth as location. When the transfer is done you will send me a photo/scan of the receipt from W.U. as proof of payment.

This way I will be sure that you will actually come and I will fly to meet you within the next couple of days. You will test-drive the car and if you decide to buy it we will go together at a Western Union in Plymouth, you will pick up your money, then we will take care of all the paperwork to transfer the ownership into your name.

As you can see I am not asking you to send any money in advance to me. You will be the receiver of the money and only you will be able to pick up the funds from WesternUnion, only in Plymouth/UK .

I believe our business proposal is reasonable for both of us.
If you are still interested in going further with the deal let me know.
Cheers

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its a scam

total scam - my dad tried to buy a car like this and got a very similar reply from emails

Western Union? *alarm bells*

ive had the exact same email in the past about 3-4 times for completley diff cars... is it the piston heads site ur using? I wrote an email to their editor or someone and got no response, something should be done about this its really not fair.

Yep it is!! Loads of these are on Auto Trader!!

[SIZE="4"]Cannot get to the phone, so email me!![/SIZE]

Whoever selling a car needs a phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

carol123;4634695

its a scam



how is it?

Banned

wtf it had 6 replies and was only posted 1 minute ago... Fast readers?

Scamtastic :oops:

lol western union, total scam.

fast readers and typer's lol

I dont know how they scam money out of this would be interesting to head if anyone went through with an actual deal. The cars that they advertise are all stunning and at a very reasonable (if not too cheap) price. They then give u this email as a response. you dont hear anything else from them unless I guess you reply back.... When i received it first time I was thinking hmmmmm doesnt sound right and decided not to enquire any further... then when i received it a 2nd, 3rd, 4th time u just get annoyed and wonder how they get away with it an arent banned.

I actually got a letter from piston heads warming me not to make any dealings with a couple of them but it was well after the email had been sent so would be too late - If they know what these people are doing why dont they stop them from publishing ads on the site!!

this is 100 % legit.

Banned

lol plymouth... thats were my crib is at!

want me to send the boys round?

Original Poster

Naeem786;4634718

Yep it is!! Loads of these are on Auto Trader!![SIZE="4"]Cannot get to … Yep it is!! Loads of these are on Auto Trader!![SIZE="4"]Cannot get to the phone, so email me!![/SIZE]Whoever selling a car needs a phone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Yep Autotrader...

BTW I'm not in Germany. I'm in Paris.

zermattbusby;4634760

Yep Autotrader...



Scam!! I seen a Golf GT TDI 2.0 on a 56 plate £4.500!! Then saw can only be reached by email!! Trust me stay away!!!

it does look dodgy, but if you are itching to find out more, i would call his bluff and see if he can take some sort of other way.

if he is asking for this, you should take all of his details and book his flight for him lol!

thats the way aint it.

typical scam, they all seem to quote western union, never send money, always hand it over at their address and make sure the log bokk matches if not walk away, if no logbook walk away, better safe than forever sorry

bargain surfer;4634745

this is 100 % legit.



No its not!! proof??

Original Poster

Many thanks for the confirmation guys !

How though would the scammer actually get the money though ?

Can understand selling say a phone on Ebay and paying monies into the buyers a/c but these people haven't actually asked for the money (yet !)

zermattbusby;4634760

Yep Autotrader...



Scam, I'd report it to Autotrader if you can.

Naeem786;4634812

My reply from them was … My reply from them was better!!http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/347327/is-this-wierd-scam/



lol thats a good one

This scam was shown on "The Hustle" I think it's called.

The best way you can prove your serious intentions is to have 50% of the total amount (2900 GBP) transferred into your name via WesternUnion. All you have to do is find a Western Union office in your town and go there with your best friend or your wife. He/she will have to send the money into your name, with Plymouth as location. When the transfer is done you will send me a photo/scan of the receipt from W.U. as proof of payment.

Looks like that bit is the scam

Banned

bargainbetty;4634846

This scam was shown on "The Hustle" I think it's called.



'The Real Hustle' :thumbsup:

DangerGod;4634854

'The Real Hustle' :thumbsup:



:thumbsup: I knew it had HUSTLE in there somewhere lol

zermattbusby;4634825

Many thanks for the confirmation guys !How though would the scammer … Many thanks for the confirmation guys !How though would the scammer actually get the money though ?Can understand selling say a phone on Ebay and paying monies into the buyers a/c but these people haven't actually asked for the money (yet !)



I dunno but I wouldnt trust anything that was associated with Western Union, I know it seems weird how they would get you but they would somehow, maybe with the photocopied receipt they could lift the money or something I dunno, theres a reason that Western Union wont cover you for fraud.

Original Poster

carol123;4634847

The best way you can prove your serious intentions is to have 50% of the … The best way you can prove your serious intentions is to have 50% of the total amount (2900 GBP) transferred into your name via WesternUnion. All you have to do is find a Western Union office in your town and go there with your best friend or your wife. He/she will have to send the money into your name, with Plymouth as location. When the transfer is done you will send me a photo/scan of the receipt from W.U. as proof of payment.Looks like that bit is the scam



I totally agree, however seems a very long winded way of going about it ! just cant see where the trap actually lies ?

you will be able to pick up the funds from WesternUnion, only in Plymouth/UK .....if western union is like moneygram (which im sure it is) you can pick up the money from any location, as its entered onto a computer, i think it just needs to be from a certain area ie UK would do... so they could lift from anywhere in UK only thing is youd need id in your name possibly but im not sure... maybe theyd have some form of fake ID?? Yeh or the receipt maybe is enough to blag your way to getting the cash

All they need is the photocopy of the receipt and they can walk into any WU and get the money, or something like that ..according to "The Real Hustle" - I've probably got the Hustle wrong again lol

A car registered in 2007 with the MOT expiring in Nov 2009? Doesn't that ring alarm bells?

tony_s1;4634983

A car registered in 2007 with the MOT expiring in Nov 2009? Doesn't that … A car registered in 2007 with the MOT expiring in Nov 2009? Doesn't that ring alarm bells?



lol good point

scam,,,

tony_s1;4634983

A car registered in 2007 with the MOT expiring in Nov 2009? Doesn't that … A car registered in 2007 with the MOT expiring in Nov 2009? Doesn't that ring alarm bells?



Well spotted

if I remember rightly from western union scams on tv shows they only need to know the transaction number-no id needed.

Original Poster

Thanks very much for all your replies, think I might just give it a miss !

BTW... Ads been removed from Autotrader now.

zermattbusby;4635125

Thanks very much for all your replies, think I might just give it a miss … Thanks very much for all your replies, think I might just give it a miss !BTW... Ads been removed from Autotrader now.



Unfortunatley these people just keep posting under diff names and locations etc so I guess it is difficult to put a stop to this mind u not really if they had added security measures. ANyway at least justice has been done and thats them gone for another wee while perhaps
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