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    Cars parking on the curb - campaign for East Midlands but should be nationwide

    Apparently according to a facebook photo (link below and linky in first post) people are going crazy about cars being parked on pavements/curbs

    East Midlands Today are running a "send us your photo's" to [email protected]bbc.co.uk

    Do you think it's getting worse?
    Do you think Leicester City Council's £70 fine will work?
    Do you think £70 fine is enough?

    Post your own pics if you wish

    facebook.com/bbc…e=1

    46 Comments

    The problem is (obviously) when inconsiderate idiots park on the pavement, not leaving enough room for a wheelchair or pushchair to get through. These should be fined/prosecuted to the full extents of the law in my opinion

    Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads are just not wide enough to accommodate moving and parked cars at the same time. It would be a commuters nightmare if people did not park at least some distance onto a curb.

    NEtech

    Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads … Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads are just not wide enough to accommodate moving and parked cars at the same time. It would be a commuters nightmare if people did not park at least some distance onto a curb.



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    Edited by: "deeky" 30th Jul 2014

    NEtech

    Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads … Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads are just not wide enough to accommodate moving and parked cars at the same time. It would be a commuters nightmare if people did not park at least some distance onto a curb.



    very true, a lot of cars around here are parked on the Kerb since there would be no space on the roads to drive on if they didn't - thankfully most people are considerate enough to leave enough space for wheelchairs/prams but there are a few who completely block the path. Fining those people i can understand but an all out ban is a stupid idea.
    Edited by: "athunder" 30th Jul 2014

    send in the rednecks & tow them away...£500 to get your car back X) that'll teach 'em
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    Edited by: "Dark.Energy" 30th Jul 2014

    Original Poster

    athunder

    very true, a lot of cars around here are parked on the curb since there … very true, a lot of cars around here are parked on the curb since there would be no space on the roads to drive on if they didn't - thankfully most people are considerate enough to leave enough space for wheelchairs/prams but there are a few who completely block the path. Fining those people i can understand but an all out ban is a stupid idea.



    Although I agree with some areas (like old terraced housing estates) but the law is the law and people who buy or rent these properties are fully aware of the issue before they buy/rent. Some houses have 3 or 4 cars and some only have 1 but cannot park near their home because of the others. Therefore if you are aware of the parking predicament that doesn't give you any right to ignore the law.

    I live on an estate where every house has off street parking (either on the garden at the back of the property or a carport (or similar) somewhere close by on the estate we also have several lay-bys around the estate for additional parking - so then why do we have on street parking and more importantly parking on the curbs and corners - the reason is clear, ignorance. selfishness and total disregard to other people. They turn their back gardens into proper gardens thereby taking away the own parking place (on most properties you can get 2 cars into that area), they have 3 or 4 cars.
    Edited by: "philphil61" 30th Jul 2014

    Perhaps we should follow the example set in Japan;

    Firstly, it is best to know that in Japan you need to have a car park in order to own a car. That's correct. If you don't have your own car park, you cannot register a car in Japan. Part of the registration process is to have the police in your area verify your car park, and this verification document that the police issue is needed to complete the registration of your car.


    Or perhaps levy an additional road tax on cars parked on streets.

    Original Poster

    Inactive

    Perhaps we should follow the example set in Japan;Firstly, it is best to … Perhaps we should follow the example set in Japan;Firstly, it is best to know that in Japan you need to have a car park in order to own a car. That's correct. If you don't have your own car park, you cannot register a car in Japan. Part of the registration process is to have the police in your area verify your car park, and this verification document that the police issue is needed to complete the registration of your car.Or perhaps levy an additional road tax on cars parked on streets.



    I think anything will do so long as it is enforced. Sadly most instances are through selfishness, incompetence and down right laziness

    I was once in Enfield, parked 2 wheels on the kerb where the pavement was about 10 ft wide. Got a fine for that. Completely ridiculous.

    The size of the roads in this country should automatically allow you to park 2 wheels on the kerb, so long as there is plenty of room for pedestrians on the pavement.

    *kerb

    Original Poster

    BeerDrinker

    *kerb



    My bad

    Slap me or send the Nazi spelling police to arrest me - after I've taken some photos

    BeerDrinker

    *kerb



    I looked at J4JJ4's post above and thought, well that's right X)

    Then I looked a bit further up...

    philphil61

    My bad ;)Slap me or send the Nazi spelling police to arrest me - after … My bad ;)Slap me or send the Nazi spelling police to arrest me - after I've taken some photos



    Wow slow down there. You should curb your excitement!

    J4GG4

    I was once in Enfield, parked 2 wheels on the kerb where the pavement was … I was once in Enfield, parked 2 wheels on the kerb where the pavement was about 10 ft wide. Got a fine for that. Completely ridiculous.The size of the roads in this country should automatically allow you to park 2 wheels on the kerb, so long as there is plenty of room for pedestrians on the pavement.



    There would have to be lines painted on the pavement if they were to implement anything like that otherwise it would lead to a free-for-all. It would have to be black and white (not the lines, the rules X))

    philphil61

    Although I agree with some areas (like old terraced housing estates) but … Although I agree with some areas (like old terraced housing estates) but the law is the law and people who buy or rent these properties are fully aware of the issue before they buy/rent. Some houses have 3 or 4 cars and some only have 1 but cannot park near their home because of the others. Therefore if you are aware of the parking predicament that doesn't give you any right to ignore the law.I live on an estate where every house has off street parking (either on the garden at the back of the property or a carport (or similar) somewhere close by on the estate we also have several lay-bys around the estate for additional parking - so then why do we have on street parking and more importantly parking on the curbs and corners - the reason is clear, ignorance. selfishness and total disregard to other people. They turn their back gardens into proper gardens thereby taking away the own parking place (on most properties you can get 2 cars into that area), they have 3 or 4 cars.



    Well the law (Road Traffic Act) actually states you cant park on the carriage way (that includes the pavement) at all.

    I think its all about being sensible and considerate with your parking.

    deeky

    There would have to be lines painted on the pavement if they were to … There would have to be lines painted on the pavement if they were to implement anything like that otherwise it would lead to a free-for-all. It would have to be black and white (not the lines, the rules X))



    Nope no lines at all.

    Enfield council are rats, they drive around the town in a smart car with an erected CCTV on the roof. Theres a few of them.

    Round here there is parking spaces on one side of the road and a double yellow on the other, as there are parking meters guess which side gets cars all parked up it and I don't know why they seem to think yellow lines only apply if you have wheels on them, they park completely on the pavement so you have to walk in the road.

    I'd like to see them all given temporary driving bans, fines only impact on the poor as they are a set amount rather then percentage of income.

    J4GG4

    Nope no lines at all.Enfield council are rats, they drive around the town … Nope no lines at all.Enfield council are rats, they drive around the town in a smart car with an erected CCTV on the roof. Theres a few of them.



    I meant when you said "The size of the roads in this country should automatically allow you to park 2 wheels on the kerb, so long as there is plenty of room for pedestrians on the pavement."
    I was saying they would have to paint lines on the pavement if they were going to allow you to park two wheel on the pavement, to say how far on you were allowed to park.

    I think everyone should just adopt this guys idea; Walk over 'em

    NEtech

    Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads … Most people have to park on the curb in certain areas because the roads are just not wide enough to accommodate moving and parked cars at the same time. It would be a commuters nightmare if people did not park at least some distance onto a curb.


    J4GG4

    I was once in Enfield, parked 2 wheels on the kerb where the pavement was … I was once in Enfield, parked 2 wheels on the kerb where the pavement was about 10 ft wide. Got a fine for that. Completely ridiculous.The size of the roads in this country should automatically allow you to park 2 wheels on the kerb, so long as there is plenty of room for pedestrians on the pavement.


    GAVINLEWISHUKD

    Well the law (Road Traffic Act) actually states you cant park on the … Well the law (Road Traffic Act) actually states you cant park on the carriage way (that includes the pavement) at all.I think its all about being sensible and considerate with your parking.


    No ifs no buts
    this is utterly dangerous ,stupid and against the law

    thewongwing101

    No ifs no buts this is utterly dangerous ,stupid and against the law



    Guessing you don't drive then? What do you propose the millions of people do who live in houses without off street parking? They are not allowed a car?

    GAVINLEWISHUKD

    Guessing you don't drive then? What do you propose the millions of people … Guessing you don't drive then? What do you propose the millions of people do who live in houses without off street parking? They are not allowed a car?


    I take it you don't walk anywhere then ?
    Frankly it is not my problem
    maybe we should get a transport policy in this country that works
    in the mean time stay off the perishing pavement!
    Edited by: "Wongy110" 30th Jul 2014

    J4GG4

    Nope no lines at all.Enfield council are rats, they drive around the town … Nope no lines at all.Enfield council are rats, they drive around the town in a smart car with an erected CCTV on the roof. Theres a few of them.



    Understood

    thewongwing101

    I take it you don't walk anywhere then ?Frankly it is not my problemmaybe … I take it you don't walk anywhere then ?Frankly it is not my problemmaybe we should get a transport policy in this country that worksin the mean timestay off the perishing pavement!



    Somewhat a negative attitude. Not your problem you say. What if your income tax tripled to pay for the millions put out of work?

    Maybe being unreasonable is the way forward. Go for a walk without crossing the road, see how far you get!

    BeerDrinker

    Wow slow down there. You should curb your excitement!



    * enthusiasm

    thewongwing101

    No ifs no buts this is utterly dangerous ,stupid and against the law



    So areas where your permitted to park on the pavement, please explain if that is dangerous or not? if you do not think it is dangerous explain why.

    I was walking past a parked Volkswagen Beetle with my wife, when I ran over and lifted both its windscreen wipers up. My wife looked quite surprised.

    And so did the car..

    GAVINLEWISHUKD

    Somewhat a negative attitude. Not your problem you say. What if your … Somewhat a negative attitude. Not your problem you say. What if your income tax tripled to pay for the millions put out of work? Maybe being unreasonable is the way forward. Go for a walk without crossing the road, see how far you get!


    Well forgive me for being at bit cynical but I have almost zero say in who runs the country and sets the income tax rate

    Go for a walk without crossing the road, see how far you get


    fail to see how this is relevant apart from people having to and unnecessarily getting run over

    J4GG4

    So areas where your permitted to park on the pavement, please explain if … So areas where your permitted to park on the pavement, please explain if that is dangerous or not? if you do not think it is dangerous explain why.


    Not a clue what you are on about doesn't happen here


    Edited by: "Wongy110" 31st Jul 2014

    Just watched this on the news. Its not the cars that are the major issue but the bins. But you can't stick a ticket on a bin!

    in my street they park on the kerb, and on both sides of the road. lots of the houses have 3-4 cars per family. Madness! BTW we park our cars in our driveway.

    Our high street has several shops; most of which are independent traders. Behind these shops are 2 car parks - one small one for about 8 cars and one much larger one. On the corner of the high street in front of the small car park is a shop that sells sandwiches and hot food to take away. Drivers park on the corner of the high street and the side street, partially on the pavement to buy food etc. Some drivers park at the front of the shop, on the high street itself, at the bus stop. They don't like using the car park as it is about a 50 yard walk from the car park to the shop and back. Lazy drivers here.

    Why are they doing this when they should be targeting the **** who ride bikes on the pavement.

    I know of one town that has lines marked out for parking half on pavement.

    Shengis

    Why are they doing this when they should be targeting the **** who ride … Why are they doing this when they should be targeting the **** who ride bikes on the pavement.


    It's not really a major issue, that's why.

    Transformers

    It's not really a major issue, that's why.


    Tell that to pedestrians who have been hit by cyclists. Oh wait, the cyclist is never at fault are they?

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    Shengis

    Tell that to pedestrians who have been hit by cyclists. Oh wait, the … Tell that to pedestrians who have been hit by cyclists. Oh wait, the cyclist is never at fault are they?



    Yes cyclists should not ride on the pavement and it should be enforced to stop this happening, there are many laws that are flouted and inconsiderate parking on the pavement is just another excuse for a lazy car owner whereas a cyclist might be riding the pavement because they feel unsafe riding on the road! Can you think why?

    I don't know what it is but I've noticed cyclists getting quite vocal against drivers even though the cyclists are cycling like idiots.

    There are both inconsiderate cyclists and drivers. I am a pedestrian, a cyclist and a driver and I have been on the receiving end of idiotic behaviour by all groups....until we have transport system which works, for a proper price, these issues will continue.
    As a pedestrian I am appalled when I see young mothers and fathers having to go into the road to pass a parked car. I am also saddened when I see those with a buggy, push it off the kerb, stand on the edge of the pavement and then look for traffic.
    As a cyclist I hate it when drivers try and force you into the gutter, because they want to come past when it is not safe to do so. I also loathe the cyclists who think they are above the traffic light system!
    As a driver, I despair at all of the road users who have become so ignorant of the current highway code. I was required by my employer to attend advanced driver training every three years. This really helped me remain aware of current requirements. I advocate some form of retest every five years, this would do a great deal for improving standards, removing those who were lucky to pass, never did pass, or had someone else take their test for them (very common, when I passed).
    Edited by: "Henvig" 4th Aug 2014

    Banned

    I walk everywhere and as long as there's sufficient space on the pavement then I have no issue with it. There are plenty of places in my town where you just wouldn't be able to park 100% on the road because there would be no space for traffic, so I see both sides of this.

    I personally think there are too many cars around and that is the cause of the issue. If there weren't so many of them there wouldn't be a problem.
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