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Christmas leave for armed forces/emergency services-how does it work?

Just watching on the news the children of soldiers abroad filming video messages for their mums and dads-some of them really brought a tear to my eye.

Was wondering how christmas leave is worked for the armed forces-is the rotation such that if they miss this christmas with their families they are guaranteed leave next christmas or is it not that simple?

What about the police/fire service/hospital and ambulance? Do they do one year on and one off?

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this is the first time in 16 yrs I get crimbo day off and new years eve.. with the rotation you have to work some of the holiday time ..

not sure about the forces but my dad is (and always has been) an engineer type person that looks after the substations etc....they need to be on call/active incase there is a cut xmas (no turkey!!!)...just trying to explain why someone would HAVE to work

anyways...he said that they used to be able to arrange it between the lads...and it usually worked out that the people with family would have xmas off...and the ones who had adult family/no family would work it and have NYE off instead

guess that can only work out when you have decent workmates and a relaxed company.....think the forces etc will be diff

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dog_cop;7269099

this is the first time in 16 yrs I get crimbo day off and new years eve.. … this is the first time in 16 yrs I get crimbo day off and new years eve.. with the rotation you have to work some of the holiday time ..



16 years? jees! thats tough-hope you have a good crimbo day this year then!

Don't know about armed forces, but I'm a nurse and although managers try to be fair and give one year on one year off it really is down to service need. I have Christmas Eve, Christmas day AND Boxing day off this year for the first time in 23 years. wooooohoooooo!!!

as far as the police its all down to luck of the draw and depends on how their shift pattern falls. There is a bit of jigging around and officers without/ or older children often swap shifts with those who have young kids. There is also reduced numbers on and mainly the front line response uniformed police on duty and a skeleton CID staff. HTH

i work for the ambulance service its pretty much luck weather our shift patterns falls on christmas or not and its first come first serve with annual leave no priority at all given to those who worked the previous or with small kids or anything

and we dont even get a penny extra for working christmas!

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what about BA cabin crew poor dears

no guarantees with the Armed forces, my ex was posted 3 out of 5 Chrimbo's we were together, didn't help it was when 9/11 kicked of either

Whenever I been away married with kids always got priority for xmas leave, and that dates closest to it. Most decent singleys would volunteer to xmas duties so that family people could be at home. Just luck, you'd be quite unlucky to be deployed on operations 2 xmas's in a row

bitseylango;7269146

as far as the police its all down to luck of the draw and depends on how … as far as the police its all down to luck of the draw and depends on how their shift pattern falls. There is a bit of jigging around and officers without/ or older children often swap shifts with those who have young kids. There is also reduced numbers on and mainly the front line response uniformed police on duty and a skeleton CID staff. HTH



Although generally they have enough volunteers of police officers as they pay double time...police staff on the otherhand get very little extra pay. The problems come when they don't pay the extra money for things like New Years Eve or Christmas Eve. Most people play fair but then other greedy ******s book christmas off every year 2 years in advance!! My OH is on xmas eve night again this year but has managed to get xmas day night off so after opening pressies he will be in bed fir a few hours before getting up for dinner. He hasn't yet had a year off in 8 years as he believes in doing your fair share

Paddy_o_furniture;7269183

Whenever I been away married with kids always got priority for xmas … Whenever I been away married with kids always got priority for xmas leave, and that dates closest to it. Most decent singleys would volunteer to xmas duties so that family people could be at home. Just luck, you'd be quite unlucky to be deployed on operations 2 xmas's in a row


Totally different to how i have always experienced it in the RAF.

We all normally get roughly 2 weeks off for Xmas as the camps go down to skeleton manning and only essential services are manned along with any duties that require cover (guard, duty SNCO,duty medics, callouts technical etc).

Priority for getting away as Xmas normally goes to the singlies or married personnel who live far away from their unit as people who live close to or on base are not far away from families for the Xmas period. If you on a callout duty the chances of being called out are slim as hardly any work going on and if you do get called out it doesnt normally take much time to rectify the problem then back home to spend time with the family. If a single person is on call it is not nice to be sat around in a single room in the block when they could be at home.

On the other side of the coin during school holidays(easter and summer) married people get priority to take leave to spend time and look after their kids.

wagster;7270104

Totally different to how i have always experienced it in the RAF. We all … Totally different to how i have always experienced it in the RAF. We all normally get roughly 2 weeks off for Xmas as the camps go down to skeleton manning and only essential services are manned along with any duties that require cover (guard, duty SNCO,duty medics, callouts technical etc).Priority for getting away as Xmas normally goes to the singlies or married personnel who live far away from their unit as people who live close to or on base are not far away from families for the Xmas period. If you on a callout duty the chances of being called out are slim as hardly any work going on and if you do get called out it doesnt normally take much time to rectify the problem then back home to spend time with the family. If a single person is on call it is not nice to be sat around in a single room in the block when they could be at home.On the other side of the coin during school holidays(easter and summer) married people get priority to take leave to spend time and look after their kids.


Aye different when your in a pad and the singleys wanna go home for xmas etc, I was talking more on Ops. When your house is round the corner from the camp thats fair enough. Yeah usually mnimum rear party, with people on stand by if required.

tinkerbell28;7270261

This is true as my hubby who is RAF is on call out when home, however I … This is true as my hubby who is RAF is on call out when home, however I think Paddy was talking about deployment and such.


You read my mind

tinkerbell28;7270362

Yup just know the drill, being on call is no biggy if you are there … Yup just know the drill, being on call is no biggy if you are there anyway as you live near base, but on ops and det all singlies will let the married blokes with kids go home first, some bloke delayed his r&r by 2 weeks so hubby can come home for Christmas with his:thumbsup:


That was good of him, I miss aspects of the army still

i was lucky enuf to get my xmas' off when i was in the army. but many of my friends are on guard this xmas. thankfully my partner managed to get xmas of as he will be away in afghan next xmas and miss our sons 1st
as has been mentioned, most camps switch to skelton mode. so only those that are needed are there.

Paddy_o_furniture;7270318

Aye different when your in a pad and the singleys wanna go home for xmas … Aye different when your in a pad and the singleys wanna go home for xmas etc, I was talking more on Ops. When your house is round the corner from the camp thats fair enough. Yeah usually mnimum rear party, with people on stand by if required.


Sorry my bad, misread it lol.

Agree with you on the Op front though in 19 years i have never had the misfortune of being away over Xmas, always got back or left just after.
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