computer experts help please

Hi guys
Please help, I have acquired a Dell PC recently from a friend. I do not know hot to connect it to my TV, I have used normal connector to connect my TV to my netbook. But this new PC has strange ports that I do not know how to use. Below is pic of the same:
http://i52.tinypic.com/xdtitw.jpg
Please advise, thanks.

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Original Poster

Picture:
http://i52.tinypic.com/xdtitw.jpg

DVI..

What does your tv take? You should be able to get a simple adapter to either hdmi or vga if needed. Google all 3 of those names and you'll see what I mean.
Edited by: "Benjimoron" 20th Jun 2011

Original Poster

thanks for replies, so its DVI which port is that in the pic?
I currently use RGB cable to connect my netbook
so do i need a DVI to HDMI coverter/connector?

DVI is the second one from the bottom

Banned

You just need a dvi to hdmi cable (assuming you want to connect it to a hd tv). You can buy them for under a tenner and you wont need to mess around with any connectors. Ebay item number 360372241810 is an example, of a 5m cable with the connectors, for £4.20 including delivery.

The dvi connection is the second one form the bottom on your picture. Hope this helps.

Original Poster

Hi
Need help yet again. Please see the pic above and the new one here:
http://i52.tinypic.com/239s2h.jpg
On advice I bought DVI to HDMI cable from Play.com. But it does notr fit, does this mean that the commputer does not have DVI out, please refer to thee above pic and the original Pic as well and advise what to do. Thanks.

hdmi is @ your tv / monitor side. in the picture you have a dvi (top) the bottom[orange] is your sound card / gameport


link to playdotcom the cable you bought
Edited by: "dontasciime" 28th Jun 2011

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it should fit!

post the play.com link

Original Poster

Here is the link to the play.com
Your text here
here is the close up of the DVI eend of thee cable:
http://i56.tinypic.com/mmt0qo.jpg

yeah, I've no idea whatsoever where that might go.

you tried pulling the screws out a little?
Edited by: "Benjimoron" 28th Jun 2011

dcx_badass

As there isn't a VGA connector there then ignore the people saying that. … As there isn't a VGA connector there then ignore the people saying that. Get a DVI to HDMI cable. Or better yet a hdmi to hdmi with a dvi to hdmi adaptor (more flexible).



Well, it's probably a dvi-i I think it's called, which means a simple adapter will give you a vga slot anyway.

Looking at the DVI plug, that has 8 prongs going across, whereas on the socket it there are 10 holes. That would explain why it doesn't fit...

hang-on... just on to the help desk now!
















http://www.binbin.net/photos/melissa-and-doug/mel/melissa-and-doug-shape-sorting-cube.jpg

birdyboyuk

Looking at the DVI plug, that has 8 prongs going across, whereas on the … Looking at the DVI plug, that has 8 prongs going across, whereas on the socket it there are 10 holes. That would explain why it doesn't fit...



would it not fit still, more prongs might be a problem, less might not??

Original Poster

guys guys
why do you think I am bothering you, its not working for me that is the reason, the metal frame around the cable does not fit the port at all. Please help....

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dcx_badass

Are you actually stupid, you see the big DVI socket in the middle of your … Are you actually stupid, you see the big DVI socket in the middle of your second picture, well guess what, the DVI cable plugs into that, mind blowing I know.I'm sorry but I already told you in the post above to connect it and you completely ignored me.


to be fair, OP also thought a fridge water outlet was meant to be a seal

hotukdeals.com/mis…452

Original Poster

csiman

to be fair, OP also thought a fridge water outlet was meant to be a seal … to be fair, OP also thought a fridge water outlet was meant to be a seal ;)http://www.hotukdeals.com/misc/fridge-leaking-water-advice-appreciated/966452


Thanks a lot ....

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rambobambo

guys guyswhy do you think I am bothering you, its not working for me that … guys guyswhy do you think I am bothering you, its not working for me that is the reason, the metal frame around the cable does not fit the port at all. Please help....


to cut to the chase, take a pic of the socket alongside the cable

This is the socket from Wiki - Clicky

Im guessing its to plug in one of THESE to enable dual monitors.

Your adapter would go into one of the plugs above.

So in short, it looks like the socket on the PC is to enable you to have 2 monitors plugged in.
You will probably have to buy a graphics card with DVI in order to use the DVI - HDMI you have bought.
Edited by: "birdyboyuk" 28th Jun 2011

dcx_badass

Yes, but if you have DVI (digital), then it would be stupid to downscale … Yes, but if you have DVI (digital), then it would be stupid to downscale it to VGA (analogue).



You might not have a choice sometimes, plus I've never been able to tell the difference!!

Original Poster

csiman

did you read the OP? oO


The picture in the wiki link has different layout to the actual port on the back of the computer, what can be it??????????

Original Poster

here is the picture of two side by side:
http://i55.tinypic.com/2iivqrb.jpg
Please compare this to the wiki link:
Your text here

Just so we can be clear, this is the connector on the cable -

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:DVI_Connector_Types.svg

And this is whatever the **** the OP's computer has -

http://i52.tinypic.com/239s2h.jpg

Note the subtle differences in that his connector has more pins, and the outer connector is upside-down, making it physically impossible to fit it without some major bending. Dcx, it's great to be an **** to people because you're cleverer than them, but only when your intellect surpasses that of the aforementioned toddler.


OP, I'd suggest you take the side off the PC, open it up, and remove the card with the video output on it. Have a look at it, find a model number, or a brand name, or, well, anything. Tell us what you've got, and someone will be able to point you in the right direction.

This is getting confusing! lol

Op has PC.
Connector on back has 10 pin holes.
OP has bought HDMI-DVI adapter. This only has 8 pins so will not fit as its too small.

Lookign on Wiki, it appears the socket on PC is for a dual monitor setup lead - HERE
This means OP is still not able to connect PC upto TV through HDMI.

OP will need to buy the dual cable or buy a graphics card that has DVI so he can then use the adapter he bought as this will then fit. Here is a GFX card with DVI - HERE As you will see from the pic on the listing, the socket on the GFX has 8 pin holes. This will enable OP to use adapter.


Original Poster

Did exactly as Dxx said took the card out it is ant ATi Radeon card , here is the close up pic off the same:
http://i53.tinypic.com/j65vgj.jpg

birdyboyuk

This is getting confusing! lolOp has PC.Connector on back has 10 pin … This is getting confusing! lolOp has PC.Connector on back has 10 pin holes.OP has bought HDMI-DVI adapter. This only has 8 pins so will not fit as its too small.Lookign on Wiki, it appears the socket on PC is for a dual monitor setup lead - HEREThis means OP is still not able to connect PC upto TV through HDMI.



That's actually the wrong cable again, though. The closest I saw on Wikipedia was the DVI with USB connector, which is almost right, but the outer connector part appeared to be the wrong way up. Whatever connector the OP has there, it must be some proprietary thing dating back to the mid-00s.

Original Poster

birdyboyuk

This is getting confusing! lolOp has PC.Connector on back has 10 pin … This is getting confusing! lolOp has PC.Connector on back has 10 pin holes.OP has bought HDMI-DVI adapter. This only has 8 pins so will not fit as its too small.Lookign on Wiki, it appears the socket on PC is for a dual monitor setup lead - HEREThis means OP is still not able to connect PC upto TV through HDMI.OP will need to buy the dual cable or buy a graphics card that has DVI so he can then use the adapter he bought as this will then fit. Here is a GFX card with DVI - HERE As you will see from the pic on the listing, the socket on the GFX has 8 pin holes. This will enable OP to use adapter.:{


sorry fr bothering but I do not think that thes will take the ddual dsplay cable as well, as the pins and holes are different on the actual port to what it shows in the picture on the ebay ...

rambobambo

sorry fr bothering but I do not think that thes will take the ddual … sorry fr bothering but I do not think that thes will take the ddual dsplay cable as well, as the pins and holes are different on the actual port to what it shows in the picture on the ebay ...


I see. Doing a google search brings up the dual cable and yes, the lone plug is different...hmmm...

rambobambo

Did exactly as Dxx said took the card out it is ant ATi Radeon card , … Did exactly as Dxx said took the card out it is ant ATi Radeon card , here is the close up pic off the same:



Good stuff. This doesn't answer the question, but it does bring us closer to the answer. What it is, is that ATI have been doing All-In-Wonder cards since the 90s, and these cards are special in that they've got video inputs (and sometimes built-in TV tuners) as well as the normal video outputs. What that connector is likely to be therefore is the for the cable to external input/output box, or for a breakout cable.

Problem is, finding the right cable is going to be hella difficult these days, so you're probably better off, both in terms of ease and also likely cost, just buying a cheap replacement card. Can you take a photo of the card in full, so we can see the connector it uses to slot into the PCs motherboard? With that, we;ll be able to point you in the right direction of what to buy. And don't worry, a new card won't cost any more than about a tenner.

Original Poster

I think what I eed is this:
cgi.ebay.com/04E…311
But ssay if I buy one of these would I be able to use only one monitor as I do not want dual display in any case. Thanks for taking pain in helping me out

Its *not* a DVI adapter, its a VESA adapter, its quite a rare interface.

en.wikipedia.org/wik…lay

Adapters seem pricey (far more than a new basic graphics card).
Edited by: "jah128" 28th Jun 2011

Original Poster

Ok, so its a different kind of a porrt, pls tell me if I get an adapter would I be able to use only one monitor as I do not want to use tow displays
also does this mean that the this computer does not have any video output if the GFX card is not plugged in..thanks

jah128

Its *not* a DVI adapter, its a VESA adapter, its quite a rare … Its *not* a DVI adapter, its a VESA adapter, its quite a rare interface.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VESA_Plug_and_DisplayAdapters seem pricey (far more than a new basic graphics card).


We learn something new everyday!

lol me too, sorry OP 4 the fail by saying DVI. Easy mistake to make!

Benjimoron

lol me too, sorry OP 4 the fail by saying DVI. Easy mistake to make!


It's all your fault, one mention of DVI and thats it! Off I go searching specifically for DVI cables! X)

Original Poster

well guys have spent time and money looking for DVI cable
can you pls advise way forward now and also tell me can this card be used to only run one display and also does tjuis computer not have any onboard(mother) video output

Thanks

dcx_badass

Well I apologise as it is not DVI (although extremely similar), anyway, … Well I apologise as it is not DVI (although extremely similar), anyway, easiest way is buy a cheap graphics card IMO.



I'd agree on that (if an adpter isn't cheap) but I'd probably be wrong again so I'll STFU!

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rambobambo

well guys have spent time and money looking for DVI cablecan you pls … well guys have spent time and money looking for DVI cablecan you pls advise way forward now and also tell me can this card be used to only run one display and also does tjuis computer not have any onboard(mother) video outputThanks


Bump

dxx

Good stuff. This doesn't answer the question, but it does bring us closer … Good stuff. This doesn't answer the question, but it does bring us closer to the answer. What it is, is that ATI have been doing All-In-Wonder cards since the 90s, and these cards are special in that they've got video inputs (and sometimes built-in TV tuners) as well as the normal video outputs. What that connector is likely to be therefore is the for the cable to external input/output box, or for a breakout cable. Problem is, finding the right cable is going to be hella difficult these days, so you're probably better off, both in terms of ease and also likely cost, just buying a cheap replacement card. Can you take a photo of the card in full, so we can see the connector it uses to slot into the PCs motherboard? With that, we;ll be able to point you in the right direction of what to buy. And don't worry, a new card won't cost any more than about a tenner.



what this guy has said is what I'd go with.

rambobambo

well guys have spent time and money looking for DVI cablecan you pls … well guys have spent time and money looking for DVI cablecan you pls advise way forward now and also tell me can this card be used to only run one display and also does tjuis computer not have any onboard(mother) video outputThanks



find out what type of slot, pci, agp, pci express etc. Post of pic of the slot or the bit of the gfx card that goes into the motherboard. Then get a new gfx card to go in there. You've got some funny connector that looks like a dvi but isn't!! Forget it, get a new card, maybe slightly more than a tenner but not much more.
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