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    Computer fans explain this price ? Ebay give full refund as promised.

    I've bought a PC from a power seller on ebay at what i would have said is a amazing price.
    I then look at his completed listings & see even better bargains like the one numbered below..

    I know he gives the PC a poor PSU & the Case is poor,But the CPU & GPU along with all the high MHz memory would cost so much more to buy & that is without including the Blu-Ray player & other stuff that comes with this.
    On the downside his delivery of 31-31 working days is very very poor,But at these prices who cares.

    So how can he sell this stuff all the time at such a low price ?

    ebay: 180615816431

    469 Comments

    Bankrupt stock?

    Original Poster

    Syzable

    Bankrupt stock?

    I don't think so because he could build the PC within days instead of the very long 31-32 working days & so I was thinking he's importing the stuff on demand.Also the CPU is the latest CPU on the Market.

    They have been around for a while. I used them once when they were called mdservices0149

    Extras were expensive - I think they charge £50 for RAM when you can buy it for under £20 for instance. But they delivered when they said they would and the deal I got for a friend was excellent - a lot less than I could have built a box for him for.

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    AberdeenDad

    They have been around for a while. I used them once when they were … They have been around for a while. I used them once when they were called mdservices0149 Extras were expensive - I think they charge £50 for RAM when you can buy it for under £20 for instance. But they delivered when they said they would and the deal I got for a friend was excellent - a lot less than I could have built a box for him for.

    You don't need any Extras with all the ram this has & what is anyone going to do with 2TB HDD ;-/

    WheresMeNuts

    You don't need any Extras with all the ram this has & what is anyone … You don't need any Extras with all the ram this has & what is anyone going to do with 2TB HDD ;-/



    Exactly. It was the machine which I got for a friend I was meaning - it came with 2 gig ram and 500 gig disk. No operating system either but a quad core processor. Very nice and all for under £180 delivered too.

    Since he got the system, I have installed the new RAM from Crucial and nothing else. I would say that it is not the quietest machine ever, but I run a Revo which is silent so i am spoiled.

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    Any idea what Brand the ram was & type of HDD ?

    WheresMeNuts

    Any idea what Brand the ram was & type of HDD ?



    Nope, I can find out but it would not be until later this week.

    Original Poster

    No it's ok,Just trying to workout how it can be so cheap.

    24gb RAM, surely overkill for someone working at Pixar, nevermind just for watching pron

    24GB of RAM?! Ha! I'd like to see a screenshot of the new owner's Task Manager -- see how much they're really using.

    All for the price of the processor? Has he got any more?

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    sancho1983

    24gb RAM, surely overkill for someone working at Pixar, nevermind just … 24gb RAM, surely overkill for someone working at Pixar, nevermind just for watching pron

    I hear that if you watch lots of pron you start spelling badly :-)


    Sootie

    All for the price of the processor? Has he got any more?

    The CPU alone would set you back around £600 & the Graphics card sell for around £300.The Motherboard is also around £150 &the Ram I would guess over £200.You get Windows 7 COA as well as Blu-Ray etc etc.Everything comes with the original boxes,manuals etc as I've already asked him this.

    Could pay a bit extra for a decent PSU and case?

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    dcx_badass

    Has yours come yet?Item number: 180610919866 ended with 0 bids.

    Me ?


    mumbojumbo

    Read the feedback - comments like "Refunded, no stock" or "almost the … Read the feedback - comments like "Refunded, no stock" or "almost the spec" or "missing..."Plus the listing gives prices of 2GB upgrades from £34.95 and upgrade to Blu-ray reader at £64.95.Doesn't even include a power lead.

    You must be kidding ? The guy has great Feedback for the amount he sell.

    But it doesn't include a £1.20 kettle lead.......

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    dcx_badass

    Yes, you said you bought one, has it arrived yet?

    Mines had Bids & no nothing as yet,But looking at that one that went for £777 I now feel like I'm not getting a bargain :-(

    170581412081

    WheresMeNuts

    Mines had Bids & no nothing as yet,But looking at that one that went for … Mines had Bids & no nothing as yet,But looking at that one that went for £777 I now feel like I'm not getting a bargain :-(170581412081



    So you bought this a month ago and there is still no sign of delivery?

    Did the seller not offer upgraded case/PSU?

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    No when I bought it I knew it was a Naff case & a poor Man's PSU.
    I have my own Antec 900 case & have 2 good PSU's that I can pick from to use in it.Will sell the blu-ray,the COA Sticker,the PSU,Case & graphics card once it arrives & so I'll have bought this for no more than £700 Max.
    I knew it was going to take around 6-7 weeks & so happy to wait,But will only be waiting until 44 days for paypal reasons ;-)

    Edited by: "WheresMeNuts" 24th Jan 2011

    WheresMeNuts

    You must be kidding ? The guy has great Feedback for the amount he sell.



    The feedback all refers to reasonably priced systems though, there's nothing like the insanely low price the PC in the first post went for. As the seller appears genuine I assume it must be a bait and switch or similar as that PC is massively underpriced even for the graphics card and processor alone.

    John

    Looks like he has a few more up for sale for tonight:

    http://****.co.uk/MD-…Ltd

    Although it looks like the 980 is going to go for more than the one in the original post.

    Here's how to make use of that much processing power and memory:
    blogs.msdn.com/b/v…spx

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    Sootie

    Looks like he has a few more up for sale for … Looks like he has a few more up for sale for tonight:http://****.co.uk/MD-Norfolk-LtdAlthough it looks like the 980 is going to go for more than the one in the original post.


    But that's my point they are selling for less since I've bought mine & he's even doing this with a much better Graphics card & I mean much better & also given away another 12gb ram on top of the 12gb ram that I'm getting.I'm thinking of buying another one & selling the first one when it comes in next few weeks.Also see he has shorter delivery time now as well.
    Edited by: "WheresMeNuts" 24th Jan 2011

    This is why it is so cheap:

    No Power lead supplied

    Original Poster

    nebno6

    This is why it is so cheap:No Power lead supplied

    You get all this for a great price & yet he holds back on the Power lead WTF.

    Seem to have some others on offer today...

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    Sootie

    Seem to have some others on offer today...

    He sells PC's everyday.

    Doesn't look that good a deal to me.
    Mysteriously people bid to exactly the point where the cpu + gpu ~= combined retail cost, and the fact the bids are hidden...
    Yeah I'm not a big fan of ebay for computer hardware anymore.

    I'm suspicious of the cpu, probably an eval unit.

    Edited by: "Glix" 25th Jan 2011

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    Glix

    Doesn't look that good a deal to me. :SMysteriously people bid to exactly … Doesn't look that good a deal to me. :SMysteriously people bid to exactly the point where the cpu + gpu ~= combined retail cost, and the fact the bids are hidden... Yeah I'm not a big fan of ebay for computer hardware anymore.I'm suspicious of the cpu, probably an eval unit.

    What is a eval unit ?

    Eval unit = pre production.
    Usually sent for testing and to reviewers for product testing before they start sending them out.
    And they are usually fully unlocked, but the only way to check is to see the top of the cpu and see if it says intel confidential.
    Nothing wrong with them, just no warranty.

    I could be wrong though.

    I don't think so as i7 980x engineering samples aren't that cheap despite the lack of warranty and even if it was, the rest of the system is still massively underpriced.

    John

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    Johnmcl7

    I don't think so as i7 980x engineering samples aren't that cheap despite … I don't think so as i7 980x engineering samples aren't that cheap despite the lack of warranty and even if it was, the rest of the system is still massively underpriced.John

    Any idea how he can sell at this price ?
    Being a Business seller I'm sure he's 100% legit,but will know in next week or so.

    Quite simply I don't think he can sell at this price, looking at standard prices you're looking at over £1700 for the processor, graphics card, ram, motherboard and optical drive never mind the case, PSU and Windows license. Bearing in mind you'd expect assembled cost to be higher than the component parts I can't see any genuine way someone could sell a PC for a fraction of what it's worth as their business would be bankrupt in a matter of days. Looking through the systems he's sold they're all in line with the price I'd expect based on the component cost plus a bit on top, there's nothing even remotely close to the discount on this i7 980x system.

    My best guess would be a bait and switch citing problems with supply or something and offer a specification more in line with the price paid. As others have pointed out there's a few suspicious items on the auction, the lack of a power lead is quite simply a joke as this costs virtually nothing so why on earth would you exclude on a system with such high value parts? There's also the strange upgrade to blu-ray and more ram which could just be a copy/paste error from another auction I guess. There's also some suspicious terms and conditions particularly the £20 cancellation charge and the £10 repeat delivery charge, I've never seen the latter from any courier.

    John

    Original Poster

    The prices you say are the prices I'm thinking as well,So I do have my doubts but he's got the Feedback coming in every 2nd day as positives & so can't see how he's up to no good,but I also can't see how he can sell at this price.I have never seen a fake CPU before so I guess I'll just have to wait &see & do a Everest report on the PC.

    if he got them off a back of a lorry then its profit all the way

    My friend bought a computer from mdnorfolkltd, it arrived but this **** him off Delivery for Northern Ireland is a extra £20.00....still it worked out as a good deal and arrived with no problem

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    electriclinux

    My friend bought a computer from mdnorfolkltd, it arrived but this **** … My friend bought a computer from mdnorfolkltd, it arrived but this **** him off Delivery for Northern Ireland is a extra £20.00....still it worked out as a good deal and arrived with no problem

    You & Aberdeen dad have seen his PC's & both of you say they where good buys,So he's making a profit...................BUT HOW :-/

    Banned

    wow bargain

    WheresMeNuts

    The prices you say are the prices I'm thinking as well,So I do have my … The prices you say are the prices I'm thinking as well,So I do have my doubts but he's got the Feedback coming in every 2nd day as positives & so can't see how he's up to no good,but I also can't see how he can sell at this price.I have never seen a fake CPU before so I guess I'll just have to wait &see & do a Everest report on the PC.



    Not quite, he doesn't have feedback for any systems like the 980x one as the only ones there are for standard priced PC systems. For example, look at the recent i7 950 system for £433 - this price is what you'd expect for the parts, it has the i7 processor but the rest is bog standard budget stuff, no sign of any discount never mind the huge discount on the 980x system. Also he has three private feedback two of which have odd comments which suggest he's hiding something, I'm wondering if those are other 'bargain' systems he tried a bait and switch (or something else) with that the people didn't go for.

    John


    Edited by: "Johnmcl7" 26th Jan 2011

    Original Poster

    It could be that when they won the Auction they then asked questions like what PSU comes with it,only to find out it's a **** £25 700w PSU that's not worth £2.50 & so they pull-out of buying it.
    I knew it was a **** PSU even before I asked him because he does not tell you anything about the PSU in the listing except 700w PSU.
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