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    Hi guys need a new power supply as my 300w is not good enough for system at the moment.

    Looking for around a 500w. Middle range looking for around £50

    Can anyone recoomend?

    Thanks

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    misco.co.uk/pro…004

    Antec 500W, dual 12v rails, less than £50 delivered.

    All I can say is be careful with your choice....cheap ones are risky and failure can blow your whole system..and at least the motherboard.
    The Seasonic S12-430 was a best buy in Computer Shopper
    £41..not sure if this is the latest price
    take a look at [url]www.seasonic.com[/url] for details
    available here
    ]http//ww…478

    its pretty rare for psu's to blow your whole system. Only seen it on a few brands of psu's, (and ive seen alot of blown psu's in my time )

    however, avoid sunvision psu's... these are the ones i have seen blow up entire computers, along with our KVM switches connected to them.

    What do you need the psu for? Gaming? High end system? Or something quiet?

    If you want something quiet, go for an Antec Smart Power 2.0.

    also its worth remembering a cheap 300watt psu often are alot worse than a high quality 300watt psu.

    Chris206

    its pretty rare for psu's to blow your whole system. Only seen it on a … its pretty rare for psu's to blow your whole system. Only seen it on a few brands of psu's, (and ive seen alot of blown psu's in my time )however, avoid sunvision psu's... these are the ones i have seen blow up entire computers, along with our KVM switches connected to them. :)What do you need the psu for? Gaming? High end system? Or something quiet?If you want something quiet, go for an Antec Smart Power 2.0.also its worth remembering a cheap 300watt psu often are alot worse than a high quality 300watt psu.



    i bought a 550w psu yesterday from ariapc, got it today and looked on the package and its a sumvision. you think i should return it and get a more expensive one? i really dont want the computer blowing up since im spending quite a bit on it

    i bought a 550w psu yesterday from ariapc, got it today and looked on the … i bought a 550w psu yesterday from ariapc, got it today and looked on the package and its a sumvision. you think i should return it and get a more expensive one? i really dont want the computer blowing up since im spending quite a bit on it



    After hearing what Chris206 says, I'd be happier to return it.

    I've installed a few Hiper PSUs and find them quiet and good quality; I usually buy from ]Novatech

    As said above, beware of cheaper ones - for sound issues if nothing else ;-)

    there were 300 which blew the pc's up... may hve just been a bad batch but we dont really want to risk it ourselves anymore.

    We've seen sunvision psu's that work etc, im not saying they are all rubbish. Im just saying its rare for psu's to take out the whole pc, and sunvision were the ones that we've seen do it

    Chris206

    there were 300 which blew the pc's up... may hve just been a bad batch … there were 300 which blew the pc's up... may hve just been a bad batch but we dont really want to risk it ourselves anymore.We've seen sunvision psu's that work etc, im not saying they are all rubbish. Im just saying its rare for psu's to take out the whole pc, and sunvision were the ones that we've seen do it


    while I appreciate what you say Chris206 I'm really concerned that Computer shopper are giving Best Buy status to a product that you have found unreliable...no doubt every serious PC user will have a surge protection socket which does avoid some of the PSU mishaps.

    i thought you were talking about seasonic? i was talking about sunvision? or am i getting mixed up? lol

    Original Poster

    All the info is great guys.....Need a new psu just because my old one is thought to be the problem at the moment. Got a new high end computer a month or so back but it sometimes beeps at startup so i have to reset until it starts. Replace the battery but now gonna try the psu. Seen 1 in maplins i might try.

    what do you guys think of jeantech psu's? novatech stock some, i was looking at this one...
    novatech.co.uk/nov…0AP

    pc world also sell the same one for £40 collect in store

    Chris206

    i thought you were talking about seasonic? i was talking about sunvision? … i thought you were talking about seasonic? i was talking about sunvision? or am i getting mixed up? lol



    Sorry Chris206..my mistake I thought you were referring to my recommended purchase....so it's SUNVISION that should be avoided.

    Jeantech i havent had a problem with before!

    Zanic what kind of beeping is it? Count the beeps etc, and whether they are long or short.

    What graphics card have you got? And how many sticks of ram have you got also?

    A good thing to try (if you have more than one stick of ram, and if you are ok with computers) is to try a stick of ram one at a time. And see if it still doesnt post first time.

    Also is your graphics card a type which uses a power cable from the psu also?

    tjzuk

    what do you guys think of jeantech psu's? novatech stock some, i was … what do you guys think of jeantech psu's? novatech stock some, i was looking at this one...http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?JEA-450APpc world also sell the same one for £40 collect in store



    That was the one I was going to post first instead of the Antec, but as it's only collect instore i left it out.

    Jeantech are very highly rated, obviously for £50 getting a GOOD 500w is not going to be easy, but you can get some decent ones which should have good 12v rails.

    Jeantech normally have high volts on the 12v line so I would imagine it should be ok.

    Here is a list of the PSU manufacturers that will be ok:

    Tagan
    Seasonic
    Antec
    Jeantech
    Coolermaster
    Hiper
    Akasa
    FSP
    Zalman
    SilenX
    Enermax (One of the best in the land as far as I am concerned but way out of your budget).
    Sparkle

    Right mate, if you find one that you like that is made by any of the above it will be perfect for you. Anything else please ask first because if it's running a high end rig some comapnies state 500W but they are more like 300W in real terms.

    Got a new high end computer a month or so back but it sometimes beeps at … Got a new high end computer a month or so back but it sometimes beeps at startup so i have to reset until it starts.



    Did you build it yourself? If not, it should be going back to where it came from if it is havign such problems within a month or so?

    All the info is great guys.....Need a new psu just because my old one is … All the info is great guys.....Need a new psu just because my old one is thought to be the problem at the moment. Got a new high end computer a month or so back but it sometimes beeps at startup so i have to reset until it starts. Replace the battery but now gonna try the psu. Seen 1 in maplins i might try.



    Diodorus-siculus

    Did you build it yourself? If not, it should be going back to where it … Did you build it yourself? If not, it should be going back to where it came from if it is havign such problems within a month or so?



    Did not see that.

    Mate if you PC is beeping at startup it's almost 100% not your PSU. How many beeps is it giving off, does it post anything on screen?

    And yeah, iut will still be under warranty, even if you built it yourself, just find out which component is causing the problem and send iut back, it may be something is not seated correctly, ram or graphics card or something.

    When buying PSU check who is the real manufacturer as sometimes you might save a couple of quid by buying an equivalent model with less-known brand on it.
    For example:
    Antec Neo HE 550 is made by Seasonic
    Antec TruePower II 550 is made by CWT
    Foxconn Winfast PSU made by CWT
    CoolerMaster iGreen Power RS-600 made by AcBel Polytech
    Corsair CMPSU 620HX - Seasonic
    Mushkin XP-650 - made by Topower
    OCZ ModStream - Topower
    OCZ PowerStream - Topower
    GameXStream - FSP Group
    Zalman - FSP Group (but fans are replaced to quieter ones)
    Silverstone - Enhance Electronics

    and so on...

    [SIZE=2]its not really almost 100% that its not his psu. If his psu has a cold start problem, with a graphics card which requires a power connector from it, this will easily cause beep errors for the first few resets.[/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2][/SIZE]
    [SIZE=2]Personally id put my money on memory, graphics or motherboard [/SIZE]
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    Kommunist

    When buying PSU check who is the real manufacturer as sometimes you might … When buying PSU check who is the real manufacturer as sometimes you might save a couple of quid by buying an equivalent model with less-known brand on it.For example:Antec Neo HE 550 is made by SeasonicAntec TruePower II 550 is made by CWTFoxconn Winfast PSU made by CWTCoolerMaster iGreen Power RS-600 made by AcBel PolytechCorsair CMPSU 620HX - SeasonicMushkin XP-650 - made by TopowerOCZ ModStream - TopowerOCZ PowerStream - TopowerGameXStream - FSP GroupZalman - FSP Group (but fans are replaced to quieter ones)Silverstone - Enhance Electronicsand so on...



    Good advice - don't forget to check the warrantees though. For example whilst most places only give a year, Antec give 3 or 5 years on many of their power supplies.

    As has been said, DON'T go for the cheapest brand, always go for a known brand.

    We've had some not-the-cheapest but still fairly unknown brand PSUs that have ended up sending 240V down into the motherboard. Definitely a false economy in that case :-(

    I'm only gonna throw in one line:

    Corsair HX520W. 5 Years warranty built by Seasonic but better quality. Superb

    Can't fault mine.

    Original Poster

    Yup, my dad built it for me.

    Just checked the manual online as it seems slightly different to mine and ....

    Just found it says in troubleshooting.

    Continuous Long Beeps...DRAM Error
    Continuous Short Beeps...Power Error


    And im getting the short so fingers crossed gonna check out maplins psus this afternoon.

    Found this and would like to add - DO NOT BUY ANTEC. I got one about 4 years ago thinking it would be a good buy spending a bit more. All the voltages have gone down and it's a pile of crap now.

    Get a Hiper Type-R, you can't go wrong :thumbsup:

    £49.99 delivered via Google Checkout @ ebuyer

    ebuyer.com/UK/…897

    anewman

    Found this and would like to add - DO NOT BUY ANTEC. I got one about 4 … Found this and would like to add - DO NOT BUY ANTEC. I got one about 4 years ago thinking it would be a good buy spending a bit more. All the voltages have gone down and it's a pile of crap now.


    Don't buy Ferrari - some people crashed it and get killed! ;-)

    Get a Hiper Type-R, you can't go wrong



    Hyper PSU's have a tendancy to fail around the 14 or 15 month mark. There have been many discussions about this on other forums and the manufacturer has even admitted there was a problem with certain batches.

    Personally, I would vouch for the Corsair 520W and the one I use the Tagan 580W. Both are great PSU's and full of power having mutiple 12 volt rails for clean dispersion of power. Also they are both modular so you only have to plug in the connectors you need.

    Both will set you back around £65 - £70 inc postage, but will outlive the rest of the components in your PC and will provide all the power you need for any future upgrades. Both are highly recommended.

    Hope this helps.
    Cheers
    Simon

    Simon_G

    Hyper PSU's have a tendancy to fail around the 14 or 15 month mark. … Hyper PSU's have a tendancy to fail around the 14 or 15 month mark. There have been many discussions about this on other forums and the manufacturer has even admitted there was a problem with certain batches.



    Can I have a link please. Ive had 3 Hiper PSU's (including my current Type-R) and never had a problem with any. Every ebuyer customer who has given a rating has given it 5/5.

    Agreed on the Hiper R Modular PSU, lots of horror stories of them blowing up and taking the whole rig out at about the 13 month mark. The Type M seems to be fine though and is cheaper. (Overclockers has a whole thread on it)
    Seemingly the Type R are being discontinued and replaced with a new model.

    Just remember: when anybody submits a review long term reliability is not taken into account, so they might work fine for a while .... but if you look long and hard enough you will find bad reviews on everything I suppose.

    Have a look at this first....

    trustedreviews.com/per…/p6

    (By all accounts a similar thing happened when CustomPC did a round up of PSU's recently too. Seems to be a problem with the PSU under load. Not just the PSU dying too I'll add, but also taking components out with it too which is not good.)

    Then this....

    forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho…per

    You may have to register to see that second one. As I said it seems that there is a problem with a certain batch of them (580-Type R's)

    Would not touch a Hiper with a barge pole in all honesty.

    crofter

    Agreed on the Hiper R Modular PSU, lots of horror stories of them blowing … Agreed on the Hiper R Modular PSU, lots of horror stories of them blowing up and taking the whole rig out at about the 13 month mark. The Type M seems to be fine though and is cheaper. (Overclockers has a whole thread on it)Seemingly the Type R are being discontinued and replaced with a new model.Just remember: when anybody submits a review long term reliability is not taken into account, so they might work fine for a while .... but if you look long and hard enough you will find bad reviews on everything I suppose.



    Considering the Type R and the Type M are identical in almost every aspect then I find these comments hard to believe. Maybe it was a bad batch on the day and for some strange reason it was the Type-R that was being built, after all the people who put these items together are only human like everyone on this forum. The Type-R and Type-M use the same internal components, the only change to the production line is the shell along with the extras. (i.e., the toolbox, the fancy lights etc, etc.)

    But yes your correct, everyone can do a search and find an online hit list for any company.


    Simon_G

    Have a look at this … Have a look at this first....http://www.trustedreviews.com/peripherals/review/2005/10/12/Power-Supply-Group-Test-2005/p6(By all accounts a similar thing happened when CustomPC did a round up of PSU's recently too. Seems to be a problem with the PSU under load. Not just the PSU dying too I'll add, but also taking components out with it too which is not good.)Then this....http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17694588&page=1&pp=30&highlight=hiperYou may have to register to see that second one. As I said it seems that there is a problem with a certain batch of them (580-Type R's)Would not touch a Hiper with a barge pole in all honesty.



    Only looked at your first post and it was from 2005, not really up to date mate. I can pull threads from the early computer years and say Charles Babbage was a thief in stating his claim to fame. But I will leave it.

    Hiper are rock solid and are a great price.

    Anyone can research and find faults on any item, for the price you pay Hiper are good, obviously you can get better but you do tend to pay extra. Bang for buck you won't get much better than Hiper.

    I've been using a Hiper Type R in an overclocked Opteron rig for the past 18 months. Not had any problems so far......

    Only looked at your first post and it was from 2005, not really up to … Only looked at your first post and it was from 2005, not really up to date mate.



    So look at the second link then, plenty of posts from this year claiming that the Hiper PSU's are failing and taking out components.

    Each to their own.
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