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    could Russia influence German election to restart cold war?

    Germany's foreign intelligence chief has warned that Russia could seek to disrupt next year's German elections with cyber attacks.

    Bruno Kahl said his agency was aware of cyber attacks with no other purpose than "causing political uncertainty".

    "Europe is in the focus of this attempted disruption, and Germany in particular," he told Sueddeutsche Zeitung.

    Russia or groups linked to Russia have been regularly accused of such attacks.

    Campaigning has yet to start for federal elections in autumn 2017 but Angela Merkel announced last week she would be seeking a fourth term as chancellor.

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    And you came on to HUKD to post that? Wow!

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    MrQosmio

    And you came on to HUKD to post that? Wow!


    i joined a year before you in 2011, is there some unwritten rule I am not aware of?

    MrQosmio

    And you came on to HUKD to post that? Wow!



    inb4 "this is a shopping forum not a news site!"

    Get a grip. If you haven't got anything on topic or constructive to say then bore off.

    I don't think so.

    I don't think Russia would actively seek a return to the cold war i can't see that being in their best interests but i am sure that they would be happy to destabilise the EU in any way they could.

    You heard of Facebook ?

    Why would Russia want to restart the cold war? the only people it benefited was the US, increased arms sales, control through fear politics, the collapse of the USSR...of course Russia could influence the German elections but it wouldn't be for the purpose of restarting the cold war...propagating that they would want to restart something that was a historical failure for them is dumb

    sarah25

    You heard of Facebook ?



    Not another one.

    Why would Facebook be the place to discuss this? This is a misc subforum for miscellaneous discussion.

    If I could infract/suspend every user who makes comments like this I would in the blink of an eye.

    It's never the misc regulars.

    MrQosmio

    And you came on to HUKD to post that? Wow!



    ​And you came on to 'miscellaneous', clicked on this thread expecting?????

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    kiriya

    Why would Russia want to restart the cold war? the only people it … Why would Russia want to restart the cold war? the only people it benefited was the US, increased arms sales, control through fear politics, the collapse of the USSR...of course Russia could influence the German elections but it wouldn't be for the purpose of restarting the cold war...propagating that they would want to restart something that was a historical failure for them is dumb


    depends if Putin accepted the result as it was and didn't fancy a re-run.

    Cyber Monday to Cyber Trade wars. I see the correlation.

    International politics is a vast multi-level, multi-player chess game. All the pieces are in motion. I don't see any move in isolation. It's always in response to what moves all the other players have made as well are anticipating to make.

    It could indeed be argued that Brexit is the biggest spanner in the works for Germany, Merkel and the EU. It could also be argued that Russia pulled a few strings to facilitate that or indeed that it could benefit from a more divided Europe.

    Let's hope that the pages of history that are being written today, do not result in a more disunited and unjust world then we live in already.

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    mubashar

    Cyber Monday to Cyber Trade wars. I see the correlation.International … Cyber Monday to Cyber Trade wars. I see the correlation.International politics is a vast multi-level, multi-player chess game. All the pieces are in motion. I don't see any move in isolation. It's always in response to what moves all the other players have made as well are anticipating to make.It could indeed be argued that Brexit is the biggest spanner in the works for Germany, Merkel and the EU. It could also be argued that Russia pulled a few strings to facilitate that or indeed that it could benefit from a more divided Europe.Let's hope that the pages of history that are being written today, do not result in a more disunited and unjust world then we live in already.


    its Tuesday...not Cyber Monday, just so you know.

    It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like this are acceptable - don't want to read about war while I'm looking for a ps4 or unicorn slippers - I come on here because it's not a chat room for people with so little going on they need to start debates! Facebook ideal for this sort of tripe - discount codes - deal - sales crack on! Politics debates and world affairs jog on

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    sarah25

    It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like … It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like this are acceptable - don't want to read about war while I'm looking for a ps4 or unicorn slippers - I come on here because it's not a chat room for people with so little going on they need to start debates! Facebook ideal for this sort of tripe - discount codes - deal - sales crack on! Politics debates and world affairs jog on


    hmmm, I think you might find MISC tab is precisely for this and many other types of tripe, I suggest you switch to Deals Tab for PS4 and Unicorn deals in future.

    sarah25

    It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like … It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like this are acceptable - don't want to read about war while I'm looking for a ps4 or unicorn slippers - I come on here because it's not a chat room for people with so little going on they need to start debates! Facebook ideal for this sort of tripe - discount codes - deal - sales crack on! Politics debates and world affairs jog on


    I manage to avoid the idiots who post 2p off deals for DVDs and sanitary towels at Tesco in Largs so why is it so difficult for you to stay in Deals rather than straying into Misc where, I can assure you, there are no deals of any kind.

    Have a good day.

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    RonChew

    I manage to avoid the idiots who post 2p off deals for DVDs and sanitary … I manage to avoid the idiots who post 2p off deals for DVDs and sanitary towels at Tesco in Largs so why is it so difficult for you to stay in Deals rather than straying into Misc where, I can assure you, there are no deals of any kind.Have a good day.


    http://www.gifbin.com/bin/032010/1269602956_dr-mccoy-and-captain-kirk-approve.gif

    I think we have been moving to a Cold War state for a while now just the experts have been using the term.

    sarah25

    It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like … It's a buying and selling site not a social media site where threads like this are acceptable - don't want to read about war while I'm looking for a ps4 or unicorn slippers - I come on here because it's not a chat room for people with so little going on they need to start debates! Facebook ideal for this sort of tripe - discount codes - deal - sales crack on! Politics debates and world affairs jog on




    Don't come over to misc very often then.

    What's happened gas this made it to the highlight tab. Edit. Yes it has, see we said people wouldn't like the highlight tab and now people think it's a shopping only site.
    Edited by: "eslick" 29th Nov 2016

    why would you think I clicked misc I click all and this **** comes up first thing.. I've been a memember since 2008 didn't realise it had gone from been all things sales to all things political.. There's enough doom and gloom staring everyone in the face without bringing it to hotukDEALS

    sarah25

    why would you think I clicked misc I click all and this **** comes up … why would you think I clicked misc I click all and this **** comes up first thing.. I've been a memember since 2008 didn't realise it had gone from been all things sales to all things political.. There's enough doom and gloom staring everyone in the face without bringing it to hotukDEALS



    you may have been a member since 2008 but at have missed the new site design, its been this way for months. It brings into the front pages some of the other tabs like misc and competitions which were not really hidden but you had to click on them. Misc is a conversation place, lucky you haven't seen it recently with all of the Brexit stuff, there is also an ask tab which you might not have seen.

    Don't think its all doom and gloom, its very friendly and just a place to have a chat about anything, favourite film, place cats even. Come back and see us soon.

    Banned

    sarah25

    why would you think I clicked misc I click all and this **** comes up … why would you think I clicked misc I click all and this **** comes up first thing.. I've been a memember since 2008 didn't realise it had gone from been all things sales to all things political.. There's enough doom and gloom staring everyone in the face without bringing it to hotukDEALS



    Misc is for anything not covered elsewhere in the site. Its quite a shock seeing people have opinions other than shopping.

    I wouldnt worry too much though as 3 quarters of the "serious" threads are pulled when they start getting racist, argumentative or repetitive.
    Edited by: "YouDontWantToKnow" 29th Nov 2016

    Well I come on hukd to avoid seeing all this sort of thing you get on Twitter or fb, I find with the stress that is Christmas it helps me switch off, don't want to have to come on here and read about how the worlds gunna end. It's just weird... It's a page for deals... Shopping to do still so I'll leave you guys to put the world to rights

    Banned

    sarah25

    Well I come on hukd to avoid seeing all this sort of thing you get on … Well I come on hukd to avoid seeing all this sort of thing you get on Twitter or fb, I find with the stress that is Christmas it helps me switch off, don't want to have to come on here and read about how the worlds gunna end. It's just weird... It's a page for deals... Shopping to do still so I'll leave you guys to put the world to rights



    Stay out of the MISC section & all will be fine then..

    Clicked all - then new. Like I always do

    Russia lol

    More politically biased media hype to force the vote to swing in favour of the political elite

    Basically they know the electorate is anti EU and instead of accepting the facts the political elite are using every possible hype to attempt to keep them in power whilst the everyday citizen gets poorer and poorer

    I'm not saying Putin isn't bad but he's not stupid

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    philphil61

    Russia lolMore politically biased media hype to force the vote to swing … Russia lolMore politically biased media hype to force the vote to swing in favour of the political eliteBasically they know the electorate is anti EU and instead of accepting the facts the political elite are using every possible hype to attempt to keep them in power whilst the everyday citizen gets poorer and poorerI'm not saying Putin isn't bad but he's not stupid



    Putin only has one aircraft carrier so he is hardly going to rule the waves.

    Ah those nasty all powerful Russians again. X)

    "Bruno Kahl said his agency was aware of cyber attacks..........." but apparently unaware that Frau Merkel's phone was broadcasting to the usa. Very interesting

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    qbs

    "Bruno Kahl said his agency was aware of cyber attacks..........." but … "Bruno Kahl said his agency was aware of cyber attacks..........." but apparently unaware that Frau Merkel's phone was broadcasting to the usa. Very interesting



    ​thats so hilarious!! well done for coming up with that.

    Banned

    Did the Cold War ever stop?

    sarah25 would you just go away.
    No one wants you here moaning. Stick to the deals and save us all a headache you insufferable moaner.

    philphil61

    Russia lolMore politically biased media hype to force the vote to swing … Russia lolMore politically biased media hype to force the vote to swing in favour of the political eliteBasically they know the electorate is anti EU and instead of accepting the facts the political elite are using every possible hype to attempt to keep them in power whilst the everyday citizen gets poorer and poorerI'm not saying Putin isn't bad but he's not stupid



    Exactly right.
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