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    Cycling in London Is still not safe.

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    Cycling in London is still not safe

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    Original Poster Banned

    Well if the cyclists were forced to obtain a road cycling licence where they are taught cycling safety on roads and the relation to other vehicles on the road (proper positioning, ensuring they don't find themselves in vehicle blind spots, hand signals etc), instead of random cyclists popping up on the road causing a nuisance as they have no idea or awareness of being on roads, then no-one would be having this conversation.

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    I hate cyclists and I don't even drive! X)

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    That was his own fault anyway. He decided to try and slip into the middle then ended up clipping with the guy next to him when he noticed oncoming bikes.

    Cyclists, they don't have a licence, no test, no tax, no insurance, why? Put a motor on a cycle, then it is all applicable.

    good, at least they are recording themselves with their helmet cams, instead of provoking road users then uploaded the end result. I hope the killer clowns get them all.

    cchopps

    Ouch!



    There are some idiotic cyclists on the road and this just proves it

    Agreed - cycling isn't safe in London (or other cities when BMW driver is about)

    Rate the driver - link one or Youtube - link two << both the same video << choices, choices, choices

    Edited by: "philphil61" 12th Oct 2016



    What's your point?

    Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence already pay tax
    I would of thought most keen cyclist are in a club or member of British cycling which include third party insurance.

    Venezia

    Cyclists, they don't have a licence, no test, no tax, no insurance, why? … Cyclists, they don't have a licence, no test, no tax, no insurance, why? Put a motor on a cycle, then it is all applicable.


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    cheaperthebetter

    What's your point?Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence … What's your point?Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence already pay taxI would of thought most keen cyclist are in a club or member of British cycling which include third party insurance.



    On this point you would think that the Boris Bike hire would include insurance

    Now imagine being hit like that when you are on foot from behind. RIP my collarbone. **** ****.

    hass123

    Well if the cyclists were forced to obtain a road cycling licence where … Well if the cyclists were forced to obtain a road cycling licence where they are taught cycling safety on roads and the relation to other vehicles on the road (proper positioning, ensuring they don't find themselves in vehicle blind spots, hand signals etc), instead of random cyclists popping up on the road causing a nuisance as they have no idea or awareness of being on roads, then no-one would be having this conversation.


    Fail comment

    and I will explain in the simplest of terms

    Unless learning to drive/ride people have to pass a driving test in order to legally drive on the road yet thousands, possibly millions, of mistakes/accidents/bad driving/law breaking occur daily by said "qualified" drivers.

    And if you need a test for common sense then you shouldn't be anywhere near a pavement never mind a road.

    cheaperthebetter

    What's your point?Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence … What's your point?Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence already pay taxI would of thought most keen cyclist are in a club or member of British cycling which include third party insurance.



    A little advice - you can't fix stupid

    cchopps

    On this point you would think that the Boris Bike hire would include … On this point you would think that the Boris Bike hire would include insurance



    Agreed ,cycling on any road is not safe
    Cars are legalised weapons with a small number of idiots behind the wheel.
    Saying that there are cyclist who put themselves at risk by jumping lights etc
    .

    Original Poster Banned

    moneysavingkitten

    Now imagine being hit like that when you are on foot from behind. RIP my … Now imagine being hit like that when you are on foot from behind. RIP my collarbone. **** ****.



    Really!

    cchopps

    Really!



    Yup. **** **** didn't even say sorry for knocking me down. Yet I helped them up.

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    moneysavingkitten

    Yup. **** **** didn't even say sorry for knocking me down. Yet I helped … Yup. **** **** didn't even say sorry for knocking me down. Yet I helped them up.



    Swine, that's really not funny. I assume you had no chance to brace yourself. Was it whilst crossing the road?

    cchopps

    Swine, that's really not funny. I assume you had no chance to brace … Swine, that's really not funny. I assume you had no chance to brace yourself. Was it whilst crossing the road?



    I saw them coming down the hill, not coming my direction so I looked away. I was stood on the kerb waiting to cross the road at a pedestrian crossing. They ran a red light, mounted the pavement, crossed the corner I was standing on and knocked me over from behind.

    I helped them up, said sorry to them (WHY?! still angry with myself about that), asked them if they were okay, got their bike out of the road. They never said a single word to me. Just **** off.

    Crossed over the road only released then my leg was bleeding. Still got a scar there where the spikes of there pedal went into the back of my leg. Didn't notice my collarbone was broken till quite some time later. Didn't feel it cause I was in shock I guess. Worked it out when I found it had healed in a stupid position. Had I known they had broken my bone I would have reported them to the police.

    I get irrationally angry when I see cyclists on pavements now. It's done me in to be honest.

    Sorry for the cool story.

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    moneysavingkitten

    I saw them coming down the hill, not coming my direction so I looked … I saw them coming down the hill, not coming my direction so I looked away. I was stood on the kerb waiting to cross the road at a pedestrian crossing. They ran a red light, mounted the pavement, crossed the corner I was standing on and knocked me over from behind. I helped them up, said sorry to them (WHY?! still angry with myself about that), asked them if they were okay, got their bike out of the road. They never said a single word to me. Just **** off.Crossed over the road only released then my leg was bleeding. Still got a scar there where the spikes of there pedal went into the back of my leg. Didn't notice my collarbone was broken till quite some time later. Didn't feel it cause I was in shock I guess. Worked it out when I found it had healed in a stupid position. Had I known they had broken my bone I would have reported them to the police.I get irrationally angry when I see cyclists on pavements now. It's done me in to be honest.Sorry for the cool story.



    It's a mad story. When you hear an individual story like that you know something is wrong with system No one should get injured in that manner without some recourse. If a pedestrian is in a collision with a cyclist there really ought to be a course of action required which is mandatory. Registration of a bike is an option but selling them on Gumtree would take on a whole new meaning. I suppose that is possible and may even be welcomed by cyclists themselves. Those bikes can cost an awful lot of money. I just can't see how the registration particulars would be readily available to see. A stamp on the frame is not going to help someone if the cyclists intention after a collision is just to speed away.

    When you know that people involved in the most minor of car accidents claim £1000's for non existent whiplash injuries it's just plain wrong that someone should have their colllarbone broken in the manner that happened to you without there being some kind of public funding to compensate you for injuries sustained.
    Edited by: "cchopps" 12th Oct 2016

    philphil61

    Fail commentand I will explain in the simplest of termsUnless learning to … Fail commentand I will explain in the simplest of termsUnless learning to drive/ride people have to pass a driving test in order to legally drive on the road yet thousands, possibly millions, of mistakes/accidents/bad driving/law breaking occur daily by said "qualified" drivers. And if you need a test for common sense then you shouldn't be anywhere near a pavement never mind a road.



    Part of the vehicle driver Theory test is centred around awareness for cyclists in various situations including traffic lights, on the road and emerging from a junction. Cyclists should be subject to similar tests and regulations as vehicle drivers, both are present on UK roads. However saying that, the theory test regulations I stated above have been implemented recently and there are many drivers who haven't been aware of the updates and additions to driving regulations including stuff on cyclists.

    cheaperthebetter

    What's your point?Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence … What's your point?Majority of cyclist have a car but chose to ride hence already pay taxI would of thought most keen cyclist are in a club or member of British cycling which include third party insurance



    Er yeah, you pay tax on the car, not on the cycle so you should pay an extra tax for all those well used cycle lanes. Third party insurance should be a requirement for anybody using a cycle including children ALONG WITH the requirement for helmet, reflective clothing and daytime running lights.

    Unfortunately all road users (most of the time) have to share the same space.
    Good manners & common sense are essential from ALL users.

    cchopps

    It's a mad story. When you hear an individual story like that you know … It's a mad story. When you hear an individual story like that you know something is wrong with system No one should get injured in that manner without some recourse. If a pedestrian is in a collision with a cyclist there really ought to be a course of action required which is mandatory. Registration of a bike is an option but selling them on Gumtree would take on a whole new meaning. I suppose that is possible and may even be welcomed by cyclists themselves. Those bikes can cost an awful lot of money. I just can't see how the registration particulars would be readily available to see. A stamp on the frame is not going to help someone if the cyclists intention after a collision is just to speed away. When you know that people involved in the most minor of car accidents claim £1000's for non existent whiplash injuries it's just plain wrong that someone should have their colllarbone broken in the manner that happened to you without there being some kind of public funding to compensate you for injuries sustained.



    Don't know what to say really. I just wish it hadn't happened and wish I had had the foresight to go and get checked out. Maybe it would have healed better. I wish they had the consideration to ask me how I was. Perhaps if I lived with family, someone would have have made me do something in my shocked state.

    Not really sure what compensation would achieve, I'd still get irrationally angry at bikes that's done now. I'm obviously not okay about it, otherwise I wouldn't still be ranting about it on the internet.

    I do wonder if they were off their face. Not fit to drive I know I'll grab my push bike instead, kinda thing. How could they lose control so badly? Or perhaps not fit to ride down hills?

    hass123

    Well if the cyclists were forced to obtain a road cycling licence where … Well if the cyclists were forced to obtain a road cycling licence where they are taught cycling safety on roads and the relation to other vehicles on the road (proper positioning, ensuring they don't find themselves in vehicle blind spots, hand signals etc), instead of random cyclists popping up on the road causing a nuisance as they have no idea or awareness of being on roads, then no-one would be having this conversation.



    emmm your theory would be right if vehicles didnt crash into one another.

    Venezia

    Cyclists, they don't have a licence, no test, no tax, no insurance, why? … Cyclists, they don't have a licence, no test, no tax, no insurance, why? Put a motor on a cycle, then it is all applicable.



    What if you put a motor on a horse?

    the lane shown in the video really should definitely have a marked divide if it's a two-way cycle lane

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    cchopps

    Ouch!


    Cyclists are a danger to themselves and others. If they were forced to have a licence, always wear a helmet, follow the rules and so on they would be taken seriously.

    #CyclistLivesMatter
    Edited by: "Spasho" 13th Oct 2016

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    philphil61

    A little advice - you can't fix stupid


    Correct but at least requiring to have a licence would reduce the amount of idiots cycling.

    Spasho

    Correct but at least requiring to have a licence would reduce the amount … Correct but at least requiring to have a licence would reduce the amount of idiots cycling.


    I don't think so - as it's just the same with car drivers - you get idiots in all walks of life and it doesn't matter how much testing or certification or tv advertising those idiots will still do stupid stuff

    And as for any cyclist causing an accident - most but not all will have home insurance which should cover said injuries/damages etc and if I was hit by a cyclist and injured I'd call the police as the law states a person using the highway (roads) must give details to allow a claim failing to do so is a criminal offence (even if you are a cyclist)

    Yes like other road users you'll get the one who rides off but you get that anyway with car drivers.

    What the idiot did in the video was irresponsible, stupid and dangerous

    Not all drivers are bad (except BMW and Audi), not all HGV drivers are bad and equally not all cyclists are bad
    Edited by: "philphil61" 13th Oct 2016

    philphil61

    Fail commentand I will explain in the simplest of termsUnless learning to … Fail commentand I will explain in the simplest of termsUnless learning to drive/ride people have to pass a driving test in order to legally drive on the road yet thousands, possibly millions, of mistakes/accidents/bad driving/law breaking occur daily by said "qualified" drivers. And if you need a test for common sense then you shouldn't be anywhere near a pavement never mind a road.




    Depends how old they are my father predates driving tests, when they came in all he had to do was take a written test and he's not been asked to do anything since.
    Edited by: "Segata-Sanshiro" 13th Oct 2016

    Error440

    Depends how old they are my father predates driving tests, when they came … Depends how old they are my father predates driving tests, when they came in all he had to do was take a written test and he's not been asked to do anything since.



    Hi, does your Farther have a good driving record?

    landros1

    Hi, does your Farther have a good driving record?




    He's never crashed into anything if thats what you mean I dont think hes that good he takes corners and brakes too hard as a kid in the back of the ford anglia it was like replicating an episode of the original star trek when they throw themselves all over the place when the ship takes a hit. Hes getting on for 90 been driving since he was 8-10 somewhere around there, he had to drive his dad about and assist him in his work as a photographer for the daily torygraph after he developed crippling arthritis in his fingers.
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