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Desktop PC advice needed - Mid spec.

Hello, I wanted to ask I am looking for some advice on desktop PC
I DONT want a ultra desktop costing £600+

All I need is

Fast
YouTube, Facebook and multitask a lot
Speedy machine. Thinking of one which I can out a SSD AND a hard drive
I play BASIC old games. Eg rollers coaster tycoon 2001. -1998-2006 games. I want these to play on max ultra graphics
A 1gb graphics card I think
Comes with mouse keyboard and a Monitor.

Another question if topic

Does this make a difference or not?

If I have a monitor is it better to use the normal cable or connect it direct via a hdmi cable

Thank you very much!!

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A reasonable NUC or a Celeron/i3 should do what you want. You should be able to build something for around £200 or just buy something 2nd hand. Most low end systems should cover this.

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kester76

A reasonable NUC or a Celeron/i3 should do what you want. You should be … A reasonable NUC or a Celeron/i3 should do what you want. You should be able to build something for around £200 or just buy something 2nd hand. Most low end systems should cover this.



£200 sound perfect. Where can I buy it from?

markhuges

£200 sound perfect. Where can I buy it from?


You'll have to build it, i.e. with a NUC buy a SSD, Ram + OS. All depends on if you need all the extra stuff like DVD/BLURAY.

Original Poster

kester76

You'll have to build it, i.e. with a NUC buy a SSD, Ram + OS. All depends … You'll have to build it, i.e. with a NUC buy a SSD, Ram + OS. All depends on if you need all the extra stuff like DVD/BLURAY.




Ahh I'm afraid. I can't build one. I'm looking for one to buy direct all in one go.


You know the best place to buy or get someone to build a complete system

How about this?

ebuyer.com/570…200

It's just the base unit, so no monitor or Operating system or what not. I got one a few years ago and its been great.

It doesn't have an SSD but I'm assuming you want to fit that yourself.
Edited by: "Evy" 14th Dec 2014

markhuges

Ahh I'm afraid. I can't build one. I'm looking for one to buy direct … Ahh I'm afraid. I can't build one. I'm looking for one to buy direct all in one go. You know the best place to buy or get someone to build a complete system


Best bet is to look out for the zoostorm PCs that come up every so often.

markhuges

If I have a monitor is it better to use the normal cable or connect it … If I have a monitor is it better to use the normal cable or connect it direct via a hdmi cable



What do you consider the 'normal cable'? VGA or DVI?

The digital connections (DVI, HDMI & DisplayPort) can be slightly better than a VGA connection (especially a cheap one) but between themselves they only differ in feature support, not image quality directly, and we're only just beginning to see the advanced features of DisplayPort & HDMI being used on consumer monitors. Unless you're spending more on the monitor than on the PC the only thing you're likely to come across is that DisplayPort/HDMI will carry sound so won't require a second cable if you pick a monitor with speakers.

The Ebuyer Zoostorm £190 PC with a Pentium G3240 and Windows 8 (a much better bet than the substantially slower 1037U with no OS) would have been a good starting point but if you want it all in one shot then it's no good.

I think you will struggle to find what you want for under £500. Without massive bulk discounts (because SSD + dedicated graphics is fairly niche) and low cost machine windows licensing, the parts alone you've specified will cost around £450.

Generally I'd look for:
Celeron G1820 or above (not the ones beginning N or J).
4GB memory
100GB+ SSD & Hard drive
Radeon 250X (not 250).

You can usually find someone who will build it for about £50. Ask around, contact local (small, not places like pcworld) computer shops and ask them.

I'd go for a pentium g3240 and a radeon r6 260 combo. Something like this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor (£49.14 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard:Asus H81M-PLUS Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£40.57 @ Scan.co.uk)
Memory:Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£28.19 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:Sandisk Solid State Drive 64GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£32.18 @ Amazon UK)
Storage:Samsung Spinpoint F1 DT 750GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£29.97 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Video Card:MSI Radeon R7 260 1GB Video Card (£67.97 @ Ebuyer)
Case:Cooler Master K350 ATX Mid Tower Case (£23.99 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply:EVGA 500W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply (£31.15 @ Aria PC)

Total: £303.16



If you really don't want it custom built, just go with a cheap zoostorm, like this one with a G3250, 4GB RAM + 500GB HDD, nVidia GT730 for £210. Shove in a cheap ssd and you're good to go. Avoid the very cheap celeron posted earlier. It's worth spending £50 for a much better cpu, a half decent dedicated gpu and an operating system.
Edited by: "jbuldr" 15th Dec 2014

TBH - it sounds like an AMD system could be what you need,
While intel are unmatched for their top end processors, they dont have as much bang-for-buck at the lower end of the scale.

Have a look at these CCL gaming PCs from £249.99

That first one doesnt look like a bad machine, it would be ideal for what you need. Quad core and dedicated graphics.

118luke

While intel are unmatched for their top end processors, they dont have as … While intel are unmatched for their top end processors, they dont have as much bang-for-buck at the lower end of the scale.



Only when you're considering Kabini vs. Bay Trail low power chips. When it comes to a mainstream CPU in a system with a dedicated graphics card Intel are generally miles ahead. AMD are selling most of their chips these days on the large graphics portion, ignore that and you've got an overpriced chip.

The 860k (A10-7850k with disabled graphics and a hefty price reduction) is about the only one that might be worth looking at, but good luck finding that in a pre-built system.

118luke

That first one doesnt look like a bad machine, it would be ideal for what … That first one doesnt look like a bad machine, it would be ideal for what you need. Quad core and dedicated graphics.



Only dual module rather than a true quad core (i.e. only the same number of floating point units as a standard dual core) and the options to add a dedicated graphics card are rather overpriced.
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