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Found 31st Mar
We are looking to move house and have been looking at potential properties. I am used to having a separate dining room but a lot of the properties that we have seen do not have a separate dining room but a large kitchen with dining area.

They look very nice and big but you lose the segregation of a separate dining room. I think that a property has more kudos if it has a separate dining room to the kitchen. I don't know if this is just my opinion or if this is the general perception.

My husband doesn't mind whether it is a separate dining room or a large kitchen with dining area. I am trying to get my head around whether I should stick to wanting a separate dining room or should I change my thinking?

Any views on this subject would be appreciated.
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I prefer separate too. Makes the house look bigger in your mind as you perceive it as having more rooms.

In my house in Italy we have enough space in the kitchen for a table and sofa and we have a large dining room with table, cupboards and sofas and fireplace.

English houses look small on average to me and it's also things like low ceilings and open plan kitchens that contribute to this.
To have an open plan kitchen it would have to be really spacious and in my experience your average property here isn't what I'd call spacious.
The concept of spacious for estate agents is very weird.

A room of 20 square metres is spacious in their mind lol.
Edited by: "hearts22" 31st Mar
How about a 3 or 4 bedroom bungalow and turn one of the rooms into a dining room.
hearts226 m ago

I prefer separate too. Makes the house look bigger in your mind. In my …I prefer separate too. Makes the house look bigger in your mind. In my house in Italy we have enough space in the kitchen for a table and sofa and we have a large dining room with table, cupboards and sofas and fireplace.English houses look small on average to me and it's also things like low ceilings and open plan kitchens that contribute to this.


properties in the UK are built for midgets. even if you have a large plot of land, the house itself can still be quite small with a huge garden. what a waste of space.

the rooms are also built to be quite small with the preference of more rooms in the property over large but less rooms in the property.

new properties tend to be built with kitchen diner rather than separate dining room, not sure why, because it doesn't always mean the property is smaller than one with a separate dining room, it is just the new build preference.
SOUTHWALES3 m ago

How about a 3 or 4 bedroom bungalow and turn one of the rooms into a …How about a 3 or 4 bedroom bungalow and turn one of the rooms into a dining room.


we have looked at bungalows but have dismissed them because they are too small for us and are not of value because you don't use the upper space that traditional properties have.

i am just wondering if i can live with a kitchen diner rather than a separate dining room if we see a property that is perfect in every other way, except this.
mutley114 m ago

properties in the UK are built for midgets. even if you have a large plot …properties in the UK are built for midgets. even if you have a large plot of land, the house itself can still be quite small with a huge garden. what a waste of space.the rooms are also built to be quite small with the preference of more rooms in the property over large but less rooms in the property.new properties tend to be built with kitchen diner rather than separate dining room, not sure why, because it doesn't always mean the property is smaller than one with a separate dining room, it is just the new build preference.


My partner used to live in a maisonette with his mum and brother when younger and the property had 3 bedrooms but the two single bedrooms were basically a little bigger than the bathroom lol.
Would have made more sense to have them combined into 1 decent-sized bedroom and have the property be a 2 bed property.
mutley115 m ago

we have looked at bungalows but have dismissed them because they are too …we have looked at bungalows but have dismissed them because they are too small for us and are not of value because you don't use the upper space that traditional properties have.i am just wondering if i can live with a kitchen diner rather than a separate dining room if we see a property that is perfect in every other way, except this.


Could you maybe put a divider between the kitchen portion and the dining space? Not sure it's clear what I mean.
A bit like this: goo.gl/ima…kaf
If I found a property that I really liked I would be looking at the possibility of adding an extension later to give you the extra room. I had an extension off the kitchen that we ate and lived in daily but also the usual 2nd reception room for a ring room.
hearts2231 m ago

Could you maybe put a divider between the kitchen portion and the dining …Could you maybe put a divider between the kitchen portion and the dining space? Not sure it's clear what I mean. A bit like this: https://goo.gl/images/9qukaf


some properties come with a divide between the kitchen and dining area like what you see in the photo or the dining area is round the corner so you don't see the kitchen from the dining area. however, it is still not a separate dining room with a door, which is what i want. but i don't know if i am just being silly wanting a room with a door in it.
I have a kitchen diner. I find we use that much more than I would a dining room.
hearts2238 m ago

My partner used to live in a maisonette with his mum and brother when …My partner used to live in a maisonette with his mum and brother when younger and the property had 3 bedrooms but the two single bedrooms were basically a little bigger than the bathroom lol. Would have made more sense to have them combined into 1 decent-sized bedroom and have the property be a 2 bed property.


we see a lot of this when we look at investment properties as they try to squeeze as many rooms as they can out of a small space, such that you would think properties in this country are built for large families of midgets!
psychobitchfromhell3 m ago

I have a kitchen diner. I find we use that much more than I would a dining …I have a kitchen diner. I find we use that much more than I would a dining room.


why would you use the dining area in the kitchen more than a dining room? you need to sit down to eat so if you don't have a dining table in the kitchen, you would go to the dining room?
mutley13 m ago

why would you use the dining area in the kitchen more than a dining room? …why would you use the dining area in the kitchen more than a dining room? you need to sit down to eat so if you don't have a dining table in the kitchen, you would go to the dining room?


No. Doesn't work like that. My mother has a kitchen diner and a dining room. She uses the dining room maybe twice a year. If I had a dining room but no kitchen diner, I'd be much more likely to eat in front of the telly
psychobitchfromhell4 m ago

No. Doesn't work like that. My mother has a kitchen diner and a dining …No. Doesn't work like that. My mother has a kitchen diner and a dining room. She uses the dining room maybe twice a year. If I had a dining room but no kitchen diner, I'd be much more likely to eat in front of the telly


i see. my husband eats in front of the telly when he eats on his own, whereas i hate eating dinner in front of the telly so i always go to the dining table.
mutley123 m ago

we see a lot of this when we look at investment properties as they try to …we see a lot of this when we look at investment properties as they try to squeeze as many rooms as they can out of a small space, such that you would think properties in this country are built for large families of midgets!


Haha I keep laughing when you say midgets.
We have both a separate dining room and a kitchen diner, and wouldn't want to be without either we seem to use the kitchen diner at breakfast time and lunchtime and then eat dinner in front of telly in the evening. The dining room gets used maybe half a dozen times a year when if we have larger groups of visitors, but I still wouldn't want to be without it.
Edited by: "Dyslexic_Dog" 31st Mar
I grew up with a separate dining room, loved eating meals at the table and somewhere else part from th !iving room to relax.. Hubster had kitchen and living room so was used to eating meals in front of the telly. In our house we compromised and have a large lounge but an added conservatory is the dining room.
Was on the radio the other day that the easiest way to increase house price was to make a living room dinner and not have separate. Must be what people want or feel is most modern, but if it doesn't work for you don't do it.
I prefer the combined space. It's a huge bug of mine that I'm stuck in the kitchen on my own cooking and there isn't a place from others to sit and interact from.

I peraonally like lounge\kitchen\diners but you have to be careful you don't burn the toast as i ends up everywhere
I prefer separate rooms. If you've cooked a large meal and there's mess everywhere in the kitchen, do you really want to be eating in the same room as that? Also, it's the same if you cook something smelly or fatty, you've got to put up with the smells whilst you're eating. I know a lot of properties don't have separate rooms, ours didn't, but we built an extension, so we turned the existing kitchen into a dining room and the extension became the kitchen.
hearts221 h, 41 m ago

Haha I keep laughing when you say midgets.


i like the word midgets as it conjures up the image of little people misbehaving
darlodge54 m ago

I prefer the combined space. It's a huge bug of mine that I'm stuck in the …I prefer the combined space. It's a huge bug of mine that I'm stuck in the kitchen on my own cooking and there isn't a place from others to sit and interact from.I peraonally like lounge\kitchen\diners but you have to be careful you don't burn the toast as i ends up everywhere


we have seen some properties that are like this with soft divides between the lounge, dining area and kitchen. to me it feels impersonal as everyone can see everyone else in the house, although there is only two of us, so i am not sure why i feel this way lol.

i also feel that i am heating the whole world as the rooms have no doors.
pink_n_fluffy334437 m ago

I prefer separate rooms. If you've cooked a large meal and there's mess …I prefer separate rooms. If you've cooked a large meal and there's mess everywhere in the kitchen, do you really want to be eating in the same room as that? Also, it's the same if you cook something smelly or fatty, you've got to put up with the smells whilst you're eating. I know a lot of properties don't have separate rooms, ours didn't, but we built an extension, so we turned the existing kitchen into a dining room and the extension became the kitchen.


yeah, this is how i think as well. so i am not just being silly for wanting a separate dining room. i don't like looking at the kitchen when i am eating as the kitchen is my least favourite place in the house
We have a kitchen diner and had a whole kitchen and transformation done
Blocked back door and put a window in , where main window is now has French doors
We have ours seperated with a breakfast bar
It's the main room in our house most of us sit
We looked at partitioning it but wasnt keen on having a seperate dining room
As you buy and sell property you know women mainly look at the kitchen and bathroom
Our mother-in-law has a seperate dining room , it's used at Xmas and that's about it
Bradleigh34 m ago

We have a kitchen diner and had a whole kitchen and transformation …We have a kitchen diner and had a whole kitchen and transformation doneBlocked back door and put a window in , where main window is now has French doorsWe have ours seperated with a breakfast barIt's the main room in our house most of us sitWe looked at partitioning it but wasnt keen on having a seperate dining roomAs you buy and sell property you know women mainly look at the kitchen and bathroomOur mother-in-law has a seperate dining room , it's used at Xmas and that's about it


i do like a beautiful kitchen but i don't like looking at it when i am eating. it would appear from the answers that everyone seems to have a different opinion so it very much boils down to personal preference.
mutley15 h, 18 m ago

we have seen some properties that are like this with soft divides between …we have seen some properties that are like this with soft divides between the lounge, dining area and kitchen. to me it feels impersonal as everyone can see everyone else in the house, although there is only two of us, so i am not sure why i feel this way lol.i also feel that i am heating the whole world as the rooms have no doors.


I'd say being being able to see others in thw house is more personal

I know what you mean though, my In-laws hate the idea of combined rooms but then again they want seperate rooms so they don't have yo talk to each other 😁
darlodge11 m ago

I'd say being being able to see others in thw house is more personal :)I …I'd say being being able to see others in thw house is more personal :)I know what you mean though, my In-laws hate the idea of combined rooms but then again they want seperate rooms so they don't have yo talk to each other 😁


impersonal in the sense that you feel you are in a public building or a thoroughfare.

when i am in a stroppy mood, i sometimes go to the dining room and shut the door when my husband is in the living room. he sorts of know that i am unhappy about something if i do this and so start to behave
Depends how you want to use it and how you live. If you are a very social and have lots of people over it might suit. It looks more modern, it feels more spacious.

I for one and not a very tidy person in the kitchen, so I find it a pain in the bum. If I don't wash up, it's all on display. You also have the fun of anything you drop in the kitchen being easily tracked into your living space. Not ideal if you have pets and can't shut them out either.
MSK.59 m ago

Depends how you want to use it and how you live. If you are a very social …Depends how you want to use it and how you live. If you are a very social and have lots of people over it might suit. It looks more modern, it feels more spacious.I for one and not a very tidy person in the kitchen, so I find it a pain in the bum. If I don't wash up, it's all on display. You also have the fun of anything you drop in the kitchen being easily tracked into your living space. Not ideal if you have pets and can't shut them out either.


my husband does the cooking at home and unlike me, he is a very untidy person so the kitchen looks like a war zone after he finish cooking. So yes, this is my worry, that i will have to sit and eat looking at the mess he has created. however in some properties the kitchen is out of sight of the dining area even though it is still part of the kitchen, but it doesn't have a door which can be closed.

i haven't really thought about trailing anything dropped whilst cooking into the dining area, good point. my husband is very social and would like to have friends round for dinner every weekend if he has his way, but i am not very social at all so i stop him doing it. we therefore rarely have guests come to the house so the social aspect of cooking and talking to guests aren't important to us.

someone has also mentioned that the smell from the kitchen will get into the dining area. when i cook my own food, i often end up burning the stuff so then i would have to sit and eat in a room full of smoke or the smell of smoke. ummmm.... i am thinking that i should stick to having a separate dining room with a door.
Another classic mutley thread....
We have a large kitchen diner and I often sit at the table doing things whilst Mrs Pandaman is cooking or baking. That we we can talk and still be together.
I prefer a kitchen diner, find it more of a family and socialising space. We we spend a lot of time in ours, it’s kind of our ‘hub’.
Thanks for all your inputs guys. It is good to know that I am not the only one who likes a separate dining room and that I am not just being silly for wanting a separate dining room. However it is also good to know that there are others who prefer kitchen diner.

Having read through the replies and having had a serious think, I have decided that I should stick to my initial thought of having a separate dining room. My husband is having a rant right now about me insisting on a separate dining room, lol
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