Do apple push updates to devices to obsolete them?

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YES, I have proven this myself and im pretty sure ive seen youtube videos of this. I used to have a touch 2G and it was super speedy fast when i got it. As it obtained new updates i struggled to even browse basic websites the same basic websites I always browse that hadnt changed formatting etc. It would just crash apps etc. My situation maybe more extreme but with the iPhones the same apps taking longer to load post update even with no update to the app itself.

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Niz

YES, I have proven this myself and im pretty sure ive seen youtube videos … YES, I have proven this myself and im pretty sure ive seen youtube videos of this. I used to have a touch 2G and it was super speedy fast when i got it. As it obtained new updates i struggled to even browse basic websites the same basic websites I always browse that hadnt changed formatting etc. It would just crash apps etc. My situation maybe more extreme but with the iPhones the same apps taking longer to load post update even with no update to the app itself.



Thanks! You think I should leave my 4s on iOS 6 then?

No, apple push updates to keep the main user base up to the latest IOS but their device lifespan is around 3 years. Legacy devices get left behind due to this policy though but it gives the appearance that apple devices are fast and responsive.

the rule is you don't update it passed 2 ios from the generation it was released.

hahahaha this thread

machomansavage

Thanks! You think I should leave my 4s on iOS 6 then?


Apple ownership works on upgrade model, after 3 years you sell your old tech and use that money to buy a new device. I've an old ipod touch 3rd gen 32GB and it's pretty slow and dire. The old version of youtube on it is terrible as it is mising so many functions but due to IOS restrictions I can't install the newer version. This will eventually happen to your iphone 4s as it becomes too limited for newer IOS, this is mostly due to low CPU and RAM specs.

I'd just sell it and upgrade to another phone as there will be a time when it just wont be fast enough for you.

brendanhickey

the rule is you don't update it passed 2 ios from the generation it was … the rule is you don't update it passed 2 ios from the generation it was released.



Your rule is. There is no set rule whatsoever.

There is one product that just works what ever version you have ; the iRon .
People pay silly money for jeans and trainers because of a name/brand.You have to hand it to Apple they too have created a brand where people pay silly money and buyers won't jeep coming back unless they built in obselessence.

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What's iRon?

machomansavage

What's iRon?


Scunthorpe United I believe .

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rogparki

Scunthorpe United I believe .



Pmsl!!! (_;) (_;) (_;)

machomansavage

What's iRon?


I think it's what his wife has been beating him with and whipping him with the flex cord oO

Answer to original question is no they dont. I have a 4s still working fine and its set to auto update

So I work for a company that develops iOS apps, both marketplace and enterprise.

There is no further truth in this than there is saying Android and Microsoft do the same.

You want all of the latest hardware-independent features on your phone, fine, you can have them, but your phone will become less capable of running these features as more and more features are added. Nothing more than common sense can be applied there.

The biggest problem with Apple is they allow devices to be updated (manually, there is no such thing as automated updates without your acknowledgement) for too long before obsoleting them. For example, why would you think a 2+ year old device is capable of running the latest iOS, it technically is, but performance takes a hit, thus, users believe it had made their device 'slow'. It isn't, reinstall the OS version it shipped with and it'll run as good as new.

You'll find apps are also OS version dependent and won't allow you to install (without jailbreaking) on older iOS versions. This applies for all devices regardless if they run iOS, Android and even Microsoft's OS releases.

Further to that, where would future income for Apple come if they (and vendors whom build iOS apps) allowed your device to be updated for every iOS release forever more? That's why there are hardware enhancing features to each device - to make you want to buy the best hardware to run on the latest software to get that performance peaking device.

Both Apple and manufacturers of devices running Android do this. Apple are far better than it than Android as you'll find your Android device becomes obsolete far quicker. I believe it took around 5 years before my 3GS was no longer capable of running Facebook, not bad at all.

I'm not a fan of Apple, not at all. I prefer Android for their feature set and functionality but most definitely for their source code!

GrantG182

So I work for a company that develops iOS apps, both marketplace and … So I work for a company that develops iOS apps, both marketplace and enterprise. There is no further truth in this than there is saying Android and Microsoft do the same. You want all of the latest hardware-independent features on your phone, fine, you can have them, but your phone will become less capable of running these features as more and more features are added. Nothing more than common sense can be applied there.The biggest problem with Apple is they allow devices to be updated (manually, there is no such thing as automated updates without your acknowledgement) for too long before obsoleting them. For example, why would you think a 2+ year old device is capable of running the latest iOS, it technically is, but performance takes a hit, thus, users believe it had made their device 'slow'. It isn't, reinstall the OS version it shipped with and it'll run as good as new.You'll find apps are also OS version dependent and won't allow you to install (without jailbreaking) on older iOS versions. This applies for all devices regardless if they run iOS, Android and even Microsoft's OS releases.Further to that, where would future income for Apple come if they (and vendors whom build iOS apps) allowed your device to be updated for every iOS release forever more? That's why there are hardware enhancing features to each device - to make you want to buy the best hardware to run on the latest software to get that performance peaking device.Both Apple and manufacturers of devices running Android do this. Apple are far better than it than Android as you'll find your Android device becomes obsolete far quicker. I believe it took around 5 years before my 3GS was no longer capable of running Facebook, not bad at all.I'm not a fan of Apple, not at all. I prefer Android for their feature set and functionality but most definitely for their source code!



This right here.

No. Old hardware can't run the latest os shocker! I'm really disappointed my Windows 95 PC can't run Windows 10. What a rip off! My old hardware should be supported for life with free software updates.

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ipswich78

No. Old hardware can't run the latest os shocker! I'm really disappointed … No. Old hardware can't run the latest os shocker! I'm really disappointed my Windows 95 PC can't run Windows 10. What a rip off! My old hardware should be supported for life with free software updates.



Your mum should of told u - sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!

machomansavage

CommentYour mum should of told u - sarcasm is the lowest form of wit!


Ask a stupid question...

Jumpingphil

Why do people start a sentence with "so"? I hear it a lot on tv quiz … Why do people start a sentence with "so"? I hear it a lot on tv quiz shows and game shows. Why? Just why?



​Its an Americanism, it shows you how impressionable a person is.

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ipswich78

Ask a stupid question...



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machomansavage

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Likewise. My original 'sarcastic' comment was to show how ludicrous the opening question was. Yet the point of my post still stands. You just don't see it.

I'm not sure why Apple gets a bashing for this android is much worse at planed obsolescence. Making apps for android I believe is so much more work involved because it has to function from play store to work on 100s of types/models of phones where as apples apps work best on current and previous 3 phones. I believe Apple really do have better more secure apps and Iso that work longer.

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larrylightweight

I'm not sure why Apple gets a bashing for this android is much worse at … I'm not sure why Apple gets a bashing for this android is much worse at planed obsolescence. Making apps for android I believe is so much more work involved because it has to function from play store to work on 100s of types/models of phones where as apples apps work best on current and previous 3 phones. I believe Apple really do have better more secure apps and Iso that work longer.



Yes but u seen how much the file sizes of the updates are? Ipsw.me and you'll see tht keep going up with all the bloat ware pre installed. Android updates only a couple of
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