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    DO NOT DEAL with the member Eckofan/Tsumei8!!!

    hi

    I had an outstanding deal with this member. Paid them £25 via paypal for Fallout 3 on the 360 on the 22nd Nov. A week later I chased them up and they said it hadn't been sent coz the pc broke or something and that it would be posted. Needed it for a friends birthday which has now passed (bought Fallout 3 on the day for £25 new from HMV)
    Still not received anything... and his account is suspended so I can't even speak to him to ask for a refund!
    Any ideas what I can do now?

    Update:
    He has re-registered as Tiseumi8 avoid at all costs!
    - Ouenben

    Tsumei8 sorry. typo
    - Ouenben

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    Ring him?

    Im also waiting for an item from this user. Bought a ds from this guy last week said his pc broke n he couldnt get my address even though it said he was online the day before? im still waiting for the ds and he keeps saying he's sent it and he'll find me the tracking code but i still havent recieved it from him.

    i've dealt with him also, i bought a s60 hard dirve and game off him and i haven't had it yet. i did manage to g a reply off him on the weekend stating that he has posted it on saturday but i'm not hold out much hope i think he's ripped me off as well.
    i have got his yahoo e-mail address if you need it.

    if i don't get my stuff by the weekend then i will report him for theft. myself and the wife are both police officers and will get his details from his ip address from the cyber crime unit.

    teambintip;3638647

    Ring him?



    :thumbsup:

    scumbag,did u send by paypal gift too?
    did he have feedback or anything?

    Original Poster

    If i remember correctly I sent it via paypal not paypal gift so would I be able to open a dispute?

    Yeah saturday is when i heard from him too. then last night i got a email saying i should have recieved the ds. n he would find the tracking number. Anyone know why he is suspended?

    Got the email address but has no address listed on paypal which p****d me off a little

    Banned

    ive recently been ripped off for 67.50 on here.

    will never BT again or send PP gift to newish people 10 fb or less

    Shengis;3638791

    :thumbsup:



    Thanks Shengis :-D

    Ouenben;3638817

    If i remember correctly I sent it via paypal not paypal gift so would I … If i remember correctly I sent it via paypal not paypal gift so would I be able to open a dispute?



    Yes

    I just realised I am newish then

    Things are so much easier when you've read ]this........

    dazzler71;3638770

    if i don't get my stuff by the weekend then i will report him for theft. … if i don't get my stuff by the weekend then i will report him for theft. myself and the wife are both police officers and will get his details from his ip address from the cyber crime unit.



    So how have you managed to obtain his IP address?

    i think the difference is if u are known to the community like myself teambintip and others its easy to trust,
    but many folk build up small feedback and then scam,
    i love thsi community to much to do that.
    the site should be able to monitor IP's and then ban ip no just user.

    link at bottom to contact staff,al though i think that the sign up should be a confirmed sign up,with address check and such

    Really I am know to the community:w00t:, what am I known as:thinking:?

    ramiuk1;3638933

    the site should be able to monitor IP's and then ban ip no just user.



    It's not that easy unfortunately

    Original Poster

    Everyone who has dealt with eckofan (email: [email protected]) via paypal (not paypal gift I hope) can I suggest/ask you raise a dispute or even esculate to a claim?

    I have done so now and hopefully paypal can get our money back.

    So can anybody suggest What we should do about this? or is it just a case of be more careful next time n we lose out for being careless? cheers

    Think i paid by paypal gift

    wesleynettleton;3639086

    So can anybody suggest What we should do about this? or is it just a case … So can anybody suggest What we should do about this? or is it just a case of be more careful next time n we lose out for being careless? cheers



    think you already know the answer to that :whistling:

    Original Poster

    teambintip;3638647

    Ring him?



    sure give me his number and I'll do that

    It's really dissapointing. especially being my first trade on this site. Kind of puts a bad name to you guys in my eyes. Although im sure your not all t***s like this guy. i wont be giving up without a fight anyway

    Hi guys. i have been ripped off by this guy too for 32.50 via paypal gift. he deals via pm. he was called vesvirgo, but has been banned. he recently sent me another offer for the same item, obviously not seeing my name. his new name on ere is `tsumei8` at the moment on his profile, he is viewing this thread. what can we do to get out money back?

    Ouenben;3639119

    sure give me his number and I'll do that



    sure, read the buyer guidlines :roll:

    ITS THE FIRST THING ON THE LIST

    from: Kerry Durrand ([email protected])
    Sent: 02 December 2008 19:54:12
    To: wesley nettleton

    i have sent the items i sold?
    if theyr not recieved i can give a refund?,ill check the tracking numbers
    i cant gey on as my account has been suspended for 1 day for multi id,
    my oh
    let me know asap

    Ouenben;3639119

    sure give me his number and I'll do that

    you should have it if dealt with him part of ruls always get a landline phone number?!?

    as i said, he is re-registered as `tsumei8` and is trying to rip me off again. his profile says he is veiwing this thread right now

    wesleynettleton;3639173

    from: Kerry Durrand ([email protected])



    Raises a good point actually, i know for a fact this person has been "banned" at least 4 times while i've been a member here

    Original Poster

    re-read some PM's and he said
    "alzgames" is his ebay id.

    Not sure if this is true or not though

    he told me his ebay user is is "vesvirgo"

    I'm new to selling on here (tho got plenty of feedback on ebay) and he pm'd me asking to send my DSLite first and he'll pay later. Luckily I told him where to stick it as it seems I wouldn't of saw that money!

    smilerstradwick;3639351

    I'm new to selling on here (tho got plenty of feedback on ebay) and he … I'm new to selling on here (tho got plenty of feedback on ebay) and he pm'd me asking to send my DSLite first and he'll pay later. Luckily I told him where to stick it as it seems I wouldn't of saw that money!



    Haha. He also told me he had a DS lite with 3 games. i luckily said no, but still lost 32.50 on a phone

    Banned

    its a shame people are still getting ripped off, but its should encourage members to read the for sale thread and follow it to the letter, make all the checks, even to the fact of making that phone call to a land line, google the address, do the ebay thing, just do your home work.
    you will find that 99% of the old and new members are very good members and trustworthy, but if you cut corners on the trade rules you might get caught out, thats what the scammers are waiting for, and why oh why are people still dealing by PM????... if you do your deals in the thread there are so many hawkeyed members who will say if things dont look right or the deal is not kosher or over priced...
    If its looks too good a deal ..... it is most probably not... a fool and his money are easily parted...

    Thats weird cause i bought a ds off him so why would he need one. What a dick this guy is.

    Original Poster

    Another thing people need to do is make threads like this when they believe they've been ripped off or suspect it! who knows the package may eventually arrive if you wait but by then its too late to get a paypal dispute (hopefully you didnt send via paypal gift!)
    Start a thread, ask around, email the seller etc!

    Original Poster

    wesleynettleton;3639387

    Thats weird cause i bought a ds off him so why would he need one. What a … Thats weird cause i bought a ds off him so why would he need one. What a dick this guy is.



    did you recieve the item? did you get any details off of him other than paypal addy?

    He is still viewing this thread. his name now is tsumei8 cant we get his ip address, and therefore contact info??

    No still havent recieved, only got payapl address. working on getting his address now.

    Shengis;3638915

    So how have you managed to obtain his IP address?



    Email admin, on his ACP (Admin Control Panel for this forum, on the user list, type his user in, and will be able to trace down last time he logged in. From there, his Ip

    But if he is living in a share house, or uni hall, the chance to find it is 10% as they all use the same Ip address, as share from host or server, hardly residental have a unique Ip address.

    My advice is if you contact PP, they will be able to do something, or why don't you file a chargeback claim with your card issuers ?

    If paid via BT, no chance to claim back. Get Paypal to provide his registered address through Paypal by asking one of the police officer to phone PP up. They won't provide it to you due to Data Protection Act but will do for the police

    more advice is you guys shouldn't trade straightaway from a 0 feedback member and should wait for more people joining the thread, and you can monitor his behavior.

    link his account here,i canmt find it

    he pmed me earlier offering me a 360 looks like my suspicions were correct in not persuing him
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