Do you like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Switch) including Splatoon, Animal Crossing, Zelda?

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Found 17th Jan
I wasn't really sure or keen when MK8 on Wii U went down this new route of including Animal Crossing / Zelda characters. While the 4 new cups and 16 new tracks were welcome, don't get me wrong it added much more content and depth, it did feel it diluted the Mario Kart theme and traditions.

Now with Switch Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Splatoon characters and tracks are included in addition to Animal Crossing and Zelda. Is this a good thing?

I don't think I welcome this crossover, as there is no need for it. The Mushroom Kingdom has endless amounts of characters, and track possibilities. No need to start bringing other game series into things?

It is ruining MK traditions, and themes for me personally. Just me or anyone else feeling the same? Are we going to now see Mario Kart characters and maps appearing in Splatoon? I hope not...

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Mario kart lost its way after '64' and 'double dash' in my opinion, as did Nintendo.

Was always a must buy and I did purchase for both Wii and Wii u, but they didn't keep me engaged like the old ones did. Not sure if it was the game or the consoles fault however.

The switch will be the first Nintendo console I didn't buy.

delusion

Mario kart lost its way after '64' and 'double dash' in my opinion, as … Mario kart lost its way after '64' and 'double dash' in my opinion, as did Nintendo. Was always a must buy and I did purchase for both Wii and Wii u, but they didn't keep me engaged like the old ones did. Not sure if it was the game or the consoles fault however. The switch will be the first Nintendo console I didn't buy.



The Mario karts for DS were great!

Also, the more I watch of switch, the more interesting it becomes. If it has android OS and dual boots, it could be great.

jimbo001

The Mario karts for DS were great! Also, the more I watch of switch, the … The Mario karts for DS were great! Also, the more I watch of switch, the more interesting it becomes. If it has android OS and dual boots, it could be great.



That may be so, I don't use handheld consoles so my views aren't based on those.

And the switch, like the wii u, is a bit of a hybrid. Perhaps this is why I don't like it, not the best in class or even close in either category.

Glad some people like it however, wouldn't want Nintendo to vanish.

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jimbo001

The Mario karts for DS were great! Also, the more I watch of switch, the … The Mario karts for DS were great! Also, the more I watch of switch, the more interesting it becomes. If it has android OS and dual boots, it could be great.



I agree, and always thought Mario Kart 7 (3DS) is the best MK game to date. The reason is it plays better than Wii U, it is smooth, fun and you can retain a 2 item while holding one at your bum. It also did enough new things, but most importantly it is brilliant multiplayer. MK8, Wii U never worked local multiplayer, the Split Screen on the TV was an absolute nightmare. 3DS MK7 never had such issues as you all have your own screen. Not to mention MK8 Wii U the multiplayer had no battle mode, just driving round tracks endlessly looking for someone. It is quite dreadful multiplayer to be honest. The MK7 3DS internet server is always busy with activity, was playing it yesterday. I have no time for MK8 multiplayer.

MK8 has 8 extra tracks and a billion more characters, you can ride a motorbike or whatever as well as one or two other new gameplay features. But it just doesn't play so well as the 3DS MK7.

Are you in the minority if you consider MK7 3DS to be better than MK8 Wii U ?

delusion

Mario kart lost its way after '64' and 'double dash' in my opinion, as … Mario kart lost its way after '64' and 'double dash' in my opinion, as did Nintendo. Was always a must buy and I did purchase for both Wii and Wii u, but they didn't keep me engaged like the old ones did. Not sure if it was the game or the consoles fault however. The switch will be the first Nintendo console I didn't buy.


Thought mario kart is still amazing!! nothing on the other consoles come close? 4 player split screen and takes real skill to unlock all the cups and stars = fantastic value for money.

And the switch, like the wii u, is a bit of a hybrid. Perhaps this is why … And the switch, like the wii u, is a bit of a hybrid. Perhaps this is why I don't like it, not the best in class or even close in either category


I'd say it's got potential to be a best-in-class handheld. Spec-wise it's superior to the Vita and proper buttons-wise it eclipses tablets and phones. Still needs some games, mind

noahsdad

I agree, and always thought Mario Kart 7 (3DS) is the best MK game to … I agree, and always thought Mario Kart 7 (3DS) is the best MK game to date. The reason is it plays better than Wii U, it is smooth, fun and you can retain a 2 item while holding one at your bum. It also did enough new things, but most importantly it is brilliant multiplayer. MK8, Wii U never worked local multiplayer, the Split Screen on the TV was an absolute nightmare. 3DS MK7 never had such issues as you all have your own screen. Not to mention MK8 Wii U the multiplayer had no battle mode, just driving round tracks endlessly looking for someone. It is quite dreadful multiplayer to be honest. The MK7 3DS internet server is always busy with activity, was playing it yesterday. I have no time for MK8 multiplayer.MK8 has 8 extra tracks and a billion more characters, you can ride a motorbike or whatever as well as one or two other new gameplay features. But it just doesn't play so well as the 3DS MK7.Are you in the minority if you consider MK7 3DS to be better than MK8 Wii U ?



My comment was in response to no good Mario karts coming since '64 and double dash'.

I haven't played the wii u...ever lol

stevenjameshyde

I'd say it's got potential to be a best-in-class handheld. Spec-wise it's … I'd say it's got potential to be a best-in-class handheld. Spec-wise it's superior to the Vita and proper buttons-wise it eclipses tablets and phones. Still needs some games, mind



The battery life prevents it being comparible though surely? Not sure on the life of other handhelds (I'm more a tablets and mobiles person on the move) but certainly seems to be short.

jimbo001

[quote=delusion]If it has android OS and dual boots, it could be great.


thats not going to happen with nintendo. AFIK, its a custom android build

Edited by: "Ninhau" 17th Jan

Ninhau

thats not going to happen with nintendo. AFIK, its a custom android build



a clever man may find a work around

delusion

The battery life prevents it being comparible though surely? Not sure on … The battery life prevents it being comparible though surely? Not sure on the life of other handhelds (I'm more a tablets and mobiles person on the move) but certainly seems to be short.


Fair point - one of the key design principles of the DS was that its battery could last the length of a transatlantic flight, it's a shame to see that being compromised. At least they've gone with non-proprietary charging connections so that the power packs everyone bought for Pokemon Go will still work...

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stevenjameshyde

Fair point - one of the key design principles of the DS was that its … Fair point - one of the key design principles of the DS was that its battery could last the length of a transatlantic flight, it's a shame to see that being compromised. At least they've gone with non-proprietary charging connections so that the power packs everyone bought for Pokemon Go will still work...



The Wii U gamepad was at least designed well enough that the battery was easily replaced. While Nintendo did not provide any battery upgrade options, there was at least third party options to extend the battery time. Many did this, I did not bother as just played Wii U at home, and was happy with 3DS for out and about.

The same will apply with the Switch presumably, no battery options from Nintendo, but plenty third party options.
Edited by: "noahsdad" 17th Jan

MK8 for me is the 2nd best in line after SMK (SNES). I think the DLC injected a new lease of life into on WiiU and for Switch owners who never played it via WiiU can only extended it's replayability.

Personally, I'm not getting a Switch until Mario launches for it. I've Zelda pre-ordered for my WiiU which should suffice. I don't see the difference in the Switch version being much if anything at all.

The box art is so colorful it makes me want to barf! Its horrible isn't it?
http://www.mariowiki.com/images/thumb/9/9b/MK8_Deluxe_-_Box_NA.png/250px-MK8_Deluxe_-_Box_NA.png
The console with only 3 to 6 hours battery life now, in a couple of years when the battery degrades will be only 1 to 3 hours! and not easily replaced so im not too impressed by it tbh. Plus its just a WiiU in tablet form as far as graphics performance shows!.

May as well get a used 3ds for out and about and keep your WiiU if you already have one. This is only good for people for whom money is no object, that never got a WiiU and want to get into Nintendo for £340 (£280 + £60 for a game! oO )
Edited by: "Moonwolf1976" 17th Jan

I can understand Nintendo wanting to introduce new characters, justifies releasing new Mario Kart games and creating new Nintendo icons but yeah a shame the Mushroom Kingdom theme suffers as a result of this.

In a similar way Microsoft added Halo, Gears of War and Battletoads characters to Season 3 of Killer Instinct which a lot of fans would question!

Ninhau

thats not going to happen with nintendo. AFIK, its a custom android build



It isn't android at all.

Im gonna end up with the switch no doubt this coming Christmas, but as a Wii U owner also it's going to have to be one heck of an updated version for the switch to justify another purchase. I still play mk8 a fair bit, and still love it, however would find it nearly impossible to justify somewhere in the region of £100 total spend on Wii u version, dlc for it and the switch version.

My feelings on the themed tracks from outside the mushroom kingdom are mostly positive though. As long as it's a fun track, I don't personally mind. The excitebike track on mk8 is great fun for multiplayer, but the cynic in me wants to gripe about how there's not too much thought seems to have went into it.

bluehedgehog

Im gonna end up with the switch no doubt this coming Christmas, but as a … Im gonna end up with the switch no doubt this coming Christmas, but as a Wii U owner also it's going to have to be one heck of an updated version for the switch to justify another purchase. I still play mk8 a fair bit, and still love it, however would find it nearly impossible to justify somewhere in the region of £100 total spend on Wii u version, dlc for it and the switch version.



Having played a multiplayer at the Nintendo Switch UK Premiere in handheld mode I can assure you it has little in the way of upgrades graphically, granted in handheld mode it runs in 720p, but apart from the addition of new characters, all DLC and new battles modes do not expect any miracles. From all the demos I saw at the launch either they are failing to get the most graphically out of the Switch currently or there is very little extra grunt over the Wii U.

This is going to be a major problem for third party software developers to get creative with hardware so limited. I would expect to see very few ports, and once again developers leaving in droves.

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cicobuff

Having played a multiplayer at the Nintendo Switch UK Premiere in … Having played a multiplayer at the Nintendo Switch UK Premiere in handheld mode I can assure you it has little in the way of upgrades graphically, granted in handheld mode it runs in 720p, but apart from the addition of new characters, all DLC and new battles modes do not expect any miracles. From all the demos I saw at the launch either they are failing to get the most graphically out of the Switch currently or there is very little extra grunt over the Wii U.This is going to be a major problem for third party software developers to get creative with hardware so limited. I would expect to see very few ports, and once again developers leaving in droves.



Your probably right about this and if that is the case Nintendo are not daft and must have something up their sleeve. Maybe they are going to go to town in a big way with their own software volumes. That would be fine for most players/fans, as long as quality was not diluted.

Personally I like the tracks introduced, particularly the Hyrule one, but characters outside the mushroom kingdom do sit uncomfortably with me, alongside playing as a Mii character. It all started to get odd when they introduced that Mercedes Benz car, although the introduction of bikes in Mario Kart has never sat comfortably with me either.

noahsdad

Your probably right about this and if that is the case Nintendo are not … Your probably right about this and if that is the case Nintendo are not daft and must have something up their sleeve. Maybe they are going to go to town in a big way with their own software volumes. That would be fine for most players/fans, as long as quality was not diluted.



Well, one positive about the Switch is its architecture being easy to program for, this is great for devs, however even with classy first party Nintendo games don't be expecting big differences over the Wii U. "Arms" really was the only first party new title on show, I liked the physics, hated the feel of the joycons grasped in hand, loved the responsiveness of the motion sensing and the vibration feedback, but it still felt a little meh...graphics underwhelmed, could be quite a fun game though as its not an all out brawler, tactics are important.

The 1-2 Switch gimmicks were never going to showcase its ability, Zelda Breath Of Wind being a port of the Wii U title looked stunning on the handheld screen, less impressive on the television. The guy had me take it out of the dock to demonstrate the "switch", Super Mario Oddysey was just running as the same trailer you can see in 1080p on youtube, whilst the gameplay is there the graphics are marginally better than the Wii U...there was no doubt that technically the title could not have been achieved on the Wii U, and it makes me wonder if it started in development for the Wii U.

They should make Mario Kart x Crash Team Racing.

Hell, for the old school heads why not Mario Kart x Crash Team Racing x Street Racer

https://s23.postimg.org/aj49ivi4r/IMG_20170118_142458.jpg
The holy trinity of massive game controllers is complete#
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What a dog of a controller!
Edited by: "Moonwolf1976" 18th Jan
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