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Do you lock your pc when you are at home?

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Posted 3rd Dec
I know it is advised that you should always lock your pc but I have never bothered to do so at home as I never take the laptop out of the house and I always log out of sites in case anyone does get access to my pc.

Just wondering if you guys do lock your pc when you are at home and whether I should start doing so in case someone breaks into the house and nicks it.
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Q: Do you lock your pc when you are at home?

A: I know it is advised that you should always lock your pc but I have never bothered to do so at home as I never take the laptop out of the house and I always log out of sites in case anyone does get access to my pc.
Yes

You kinda answered why in your OP.
If they nick it they just put a usb in and reinstall Windows after format, easy to sell then. Unless you have passwords saved to sites what could compromise you. I wouldn’t worry...

yes all my devices are locked....
I always lock my laptop as its full to the brim of porn.
Lock it from the wife not intruders
On the linux desktop it depends. I'm more likely to lock it if the family are home. My Windows laptop is mine, and I tend to close the lid or power it off when I'm not using it, so it locks at that point anyway.
Of course. It takes a fraction of a second to hit winkey+L, and it means that, however unlikely it may be, if someone does gain access to my home then they can't also gain access to my PC, my emails, and potentially also my online banking, and various e-commerce accounts.
Windows automatically lock- checked
2 partition ( I personally got 2 separate ssd)( one for Windows and one for personal)- checked
Fully encrypted personal partition - checked

They can take it but by my calculations will take around 5 years to crack it with today's devices.
Fully encrypted personal

All this with 200£ costs for drives and your time to set everything up to be saved on secured drive.

Cons: I do need put Windows password and unlock the drive everytime I start or come back to PC.
justmirel03/12/2019 14:13

Windows automatically lock- checked2 partition ( I personally got 2 …Windows automatically lock- checked2 partition ( I personally got 2 separate ssd)( one for Windows and one for personal)- checkedFully encrypted personal partition - checkedThey can take it but by my calculations will take around 5 years to crack it with today's devices.Fully encrypted personal All this with 200£ costs for drives and your time to set everything up to be saved on secured drive.Cons: I do need put Windows password and unlock the drive everytime I start or come back to PC.


Any reason you don't encrypt your boot volume? Not doing so leaves a gaping hole in your security, and means you can't set your other drives to automatically unlock.
Bargainhead03/12/2019 13:52

If they nick it they just put a usb in and reinstall Windows after format, …If they nick it they just put a usb in and reinstall Windows after format, easy to sell then. Unless you have passwords saved to sites what could compromise you. I wouldn’t worry...yes all my devices are locked....


as I always log out of websites so no one will be able to access any of the sites that i had been on. all they would be able to see is all the sites that are in my favourites, which is no big deal.

I also password protect any important word or excel documents that I save onto the pc, so the only compromise would be that they can access photos of my passport and possibly some bank statements, should anyone break into the house.
_Whatever_03/12/2019 13:56

Lock it from the wife not intruders


lol. i do this on the tablet to stop hubby getting access
Pájaro03/12/2019 14:05

Of course. It takes a fraction of a second to hit winkey+L, and it means …Of course. It takes a fraction of a second to hit winkey+L, and it means that, however unlikely it may be, if someone does gain access to my home then they can't also gain access to my PC, my emails, and potentially also my online banking, and various e-commerce accounts.


i like the idea of fast access to my laptop, and the password layer means a barrier to this. however i have bought a new laptop that has finger print, which makes me think i should start locking the pc, then i wouldn't need to log out of websites at all.
mutley103/12/2019 14:34

i like the idea of fast access to my laptop, and the password layer means …i like the idea of fast access to my laptop, and the password layer means a barrier to this. however i have bought a new laptop that has finger print, which makes me think i should start locking the pc, then i wouldn't need to log out of websites at all.


Definitely. The way you're doing things right now sounds very much like a false economy, like you're entering passwords over and over to avoid having to enter one just once at login.

Personally, and especially considering that you've got sensitive data on your system, I'd strongly recommend that you look into using BitLocker to encrypt all of your storage, and use the fingerprint reader to lock your Windows account. The downside of that will be that you'll need to enter a password when you first switch your system on and also have to use the fingerprint unlock, but the upside is that if you ever lose, or if the laptop is ever stolen, then your data will be inaccessible to whoever has the laptop, keeping you safe from things like ID theft. Plus, it's just one less thing to worry about if it ever does happen.
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Pájaro03/12/2019 15:02

Definitely. The way you're doing things right now sounds very much like a …Definitely. The way you're doing things right now sounds very much like a false economy, like you're entering passwords over and over to avoid having to enter one just once at login.Personally, and especially considering that you've got sensitive data on your system, I'd strongly recommend that you look into using BitLocker to encrypt all of your storage, and use the fingerprint reader to lock your Windows account. The downside of that will be that you'll need to enter a password when you first switch your system on and also have to use the fingerprint unlock, but the upside is that if you ever lose, or if the laptop is ever stolen, then your data will be inaccessible to whoever has the laptop, keeping you safe from things like ID theft. Plus, it's just one less thing to worry about if it ever does happen.


i think i will start using the finger print lock as that takes little effort so at at least that is one layer of protection.
Pájaro03/12/2019 14:25

Any reason you don't encrypt your boot volume? Not doing so leaves a …Any reason you don't encrypt your boot volume? Not doing so leaves a gaping hole in your security, and means you can't set your other drives to automatically unlock.


I Don't have such sensitive content to go there. If like that I go to usb activation/unlock key
mutley103/12/2019 15:11

i think i will start using the finger print lock as that takes little …i think i will start using the finger print lock as that takes little effort so at at least that is one layer of protection.


your finger is everywhere around computer.i really don't trust fingers :/
justmirel03/12/2019 16:07

your finger is everywhere around computer.i really don't trust fingers :/


you mean they can take a copy of your finger print from the pc and use that to unlock your pc? lol, you have been watching too many movies! this can only happen in the movies
On some PCs, like Thinkpads, you can lock using an admin (supervisor mode) password in system BIOS.

Once stolen, then the thief has to change the motherboard to use the rest of the laptop.
Edited by: "splender" 3rd Dec
mutley103/12/2019 16:11

you mean they can take a copy of your finger print from the pc and use …you mean they can take a copy of your finger print from the pc and use that to unlock your pc? lol, you have been watching too many movies! this can only happen in the movies



You're kidding, aren't you? I've seen someone unlock a phone using a greasy fingerprint copy from the phone casing! There's more truth in movies than you'd like to realise...
Phsycronix03/12/2019 16:39

You're kidding, aren't you? I've seen someone unlock a phone using a …You're kidding, aren't you? I've seen someone unlock a phone using a greasy fingerprint copy from the phone casing! There's more truth in movies than you'd like to realise...


finger print lock requires heat from your finger. if your finger is cold then it will not work. so for a copy of your finger print to work on a locked device, you would fist of all need a complete finger print and you would have to get that onto your own finger to generate the heat. i don't think what you see is real or the fingerprint scanner for that device is faulty. like those movies where they cut off the finger to get the print, doesn't work as soon as the finger becomes a little bit cold.
Edited by: "mutley1" 3rd Dec
mutley103/12/2019 16:42

finger print lock requires heat from your finger. if your finger is cold …finger print lock requires heat from your finger. if your finger is cold then it will not work. so for a copy of your finger print to work on a locked device, you would fist of all need a complete finger print and you would have to get that onto your own finger to generate the heat. i don't think what you see is real. like those movies where they cut off the finger to get the print, doesn't work as soon as the finger becomes a little bit cold.



Ok.
No, I don't lock my PC. I have no need to.
OP probably a good idea. You don't want your husband/wife looking at your posts on here!
mutley103/12/2019 16:11

you mean they can take a copy of your finger print from the pc and use …you mean they can take a copy of your finger print from the pc and use that to unlock your pc? lol, you have been watching too many movies! this can only happen in the movies


I Challage You give me chance to do it on your PC
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Yes of course or shut down as it’ll require a password then to be entered.
justmirel03/12/2019 19:34

I Challage You give me chance to do it on your PC


i think the future will be biometrics protection as more and more devices now have fingerprint lock and more companies are using this as a secure login option. there is an article on the net about biometrics becoming the norm lock in the future as fingerprint scanners become cheaper and more accurate, that on its own it is not entirely secure, but with other measures in place together, it is not only convenient, quick and provide a secure method of lock.

when the tech bods compare products they always check whether the device has fingerprint scanner, so this is becoming in demand and more popular. i find that the scanner locks you out more than it lets you in as they are not always that great at reading the fingerprint and you have to try a few times before it will accept the print. and certainly when your finger is cold or damp, you can forget it and will have to resort to the pin code or password.

i use fingerprint for my bank account and investment account so i think i comfortable enough to secure my laptop with my fingerprint, considering i am moving from no lock.
deleted147109803/12/2019 20:04

Yes of course or shut down as it’ll require a password then to be entered.


not on my machine. i have disabled the log in security on shutdown.
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mutley103/12/2019 20:15

not on my machine. i have disabled the log in security on shutdown.


Well that’s not a very secure thing to do, up to you though of course.
deleted147109803/12/2019 20:21

Well that’s not a very secure thing to do, up to you though of course.


as i never take the laptop out of the house and i am the only one who ever uses the laptop, i have disabled all lock on the machine as to me it is very important that when i switch the laptop on, i get instant access to the machine and can get on with doing things unhindered.

however as my new laptop has fingerprint, it has made me think that maybe i should use it to protect the laptop in the unlikely event of someone breaking into the house and taking it, but it would also mean i get access quicker to websites as i don't have to log out of them when i am not using them and therefore can stay logged in as the main lock will protect the sites from access.

i wondered if i am the only one that doesn't protect their pc, and from the few responses, it would appear that everyone else protects their pc even when they are at home.
justmirel03/12/2019 16:06

I Don't have such sensitive content to go there. If like that I go to usb …I Don't have such sensitive content to go there. If like that I go to usb activation/unlock key


I suspect you're underestimating how much data Windows and apps will store on your PC. A whole lot of apps will store a whole lot of stuff under the C drive, and there's plenty of ways to get into it. Xlsx file on your USB stick detailing your online banking? Maybe it'll be cached onto your C drive, along with reduced-quality scans of your passport, and whatever else. Do you log into your email each time you use it? It's trivial to circumvent Windows' account protection, gain access to someone's email account, and set up a forwarding rule which'll basically give someone access to everything you use.
mutley103/12/2019 15:11

i think i will start using the finger print lock as that takes little …i think i will start using the finger print lock as that takes little effort so at at least that is one layer of protection.


Do be aware that it might actually be detrimental to security.

The problem with a fingerprint lock is that it only protects your active Windows session. It doesn't protect your account; it just means that someone can't take control of your PC when you're away from it. It's really, really easy to remove passwords and fingerprints from a Windows account, so if someone stole your laptop, it's easy for them to gain access to your Windows account, and, if you've got sites like Gmail, eBay, or Amazon set to automatically or to remain logged in, they'll then have access to your accounts.

The only way to keep your system safe is to use Bitlocker. There's no reason not to - it's a couple of seconds during startup to put your password in, and that's it.
Pájaro03/12/2019 22:52

Do be aware that it might actually be detrimental to security.The problem …Do be aware that it might actually be detrimental to security.The problem with a fingerprint lock is that it only protects your active Windows session. It doesn't protect your account; it just means that someone can't take control of your PC when you're away from it. It's really, really easy to remove passwords and fingerprints from a Windows account, so if someone stole your laptop, it's easy for them to gain access to your Windows account, and, if you've got sites like Gmail, eBay, or Amazon set to automatically or to remain logged in, they'll then have access to your accounts. The only way to keep your system safe is to use Bitlocker. There's no reason not to - it's a couple of seconds during startup to put your password in, and that's it.


so all these people who lock their laptop and are thinking they are protected, are not really protected anyway? i was also thinking that locking your laptop does diddly squat for protecting files stored on the hard drive as that can be removed and read with a data recovery program easily enough.
mutley103/12/2019 16:42

finger print lock requires heat from your finger. if your finger is cold …finger print lock requires heat from your finger. if your finger is cold then it will not work. so for a copy of your finger print to work on a locked device, you would fist of all need a complete finger print and you would have to get that onto your own finger to generate the heat. i don't think what you see is real or the fingerprint scanner for that device is faulty. like those movies where they cut off the finger to get the print, doesn't work as soon as the finger becomes a little bit cold.


Absolute nonsense on a phone scanner
No password on my pc and I'm not ridiculously paranoid that I log in and out of sites all day long. Weird! Locking windows won't stop a thief from being able to access your data

Far more convenient to have free anti theft software to auto lock if removed

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Edited by: "chocci" 4th Dec
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mutley103/12/2019 20:35

as i never take the laptop out of the house and i am the only one who ever …as i never take the laptop out of the house and i am the only one who ever uses the laptop, i have disabled all lock on the machine as to me it is very important that when i switch the laptop on, i get instant access to the machine and can get on with doing things unhindered.however as my new laptop has fingerprint, it has made me think that maybe i should use it to protect the laptop in the unlikely event of someone breaking into the house and taking it, but it would also mean i get access quicker to websites as i don't have to log out of them when i am not using them and therefore can stay logged in as the main lock will protect the sites from access.i wondered if i am the only one that doesn't protect their pc, and from the few responses, it would appear that everyone else protects their pc even when they are at home.


Well when burglaries are rarely solved and with an unprotected device saved passwords, internet history, saved documents etc can easily be accessed to enable further theft from you such as purchases made in your name or identity theft it would be sensible secure and encrypt your device. Modern Windows 10 devices have fingerprint and windows hello (facial recognition) which can be used to unlock the device as an alternative to passwords. Passwords will soon be a thing of the past and many companies are already adopting this.

Adding multi factor authentication to email addresses is minimum basic additional measure you should have in place as if your password is hacked it stops them getting access and will alert you to someone trying to gain access too. Remember if they have access to your email account they can potentially reset passwords for all of your shopping sites, internet banking and other sites. Once they have changed that they change your security questions and you have a serious problem trying to get your accounts back.

Don’t make it easy for them by thinking it’ll never happen to me. I remember a few years ago when my wife fell victim to a hacker and I managed to hack back her email account and lock them out of it. It was lucky as they had missed something when they took control of the account which gave me a way in.
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deleted147109804/12/2019 07:36

Well when burglaries are rarely solved and with an unprotected device …Well when burglaries are rarely solved and with an unprotected device saved passwords, internet history, saved documents etc can easily be accessed to enable further theft from you such as purchases made in your name or identity theft it would be sensible secure and encrypt your device. Modern Windows 10 devices have fingerprint and windows hello (facial recognition) which can be used to unlock the device as an alternative to passwords. Passwords will soon be a thing of the past and many companies are already adopting this.Adding multi factor authentication to email addresses is minimum basic additional measure you should have in place as if your password is hacked it stops them getting access and will alert you to someone trying to gain access too. Remember if they have access to your email account they can potentially reset passwords for all of your shopping sites, internet banking and other sites. Once they have changed that they change your security questions and you have a serious problem trying to get your accounts back.Don’t make it easy for them by thinking it’ll never happen to me. I remember a few years ago when my wife fell victim to a hacker and I managed to hack back her email account and lock them out of it. It was lucky as they had missed something when they took control of the account which gave me a way in.


from the comment about how easy it is to bypass windows lock, i don't think i will bother with locking my pc and continue as i am. the way i am doing it is far safer than locking the pc as i log out of all the sites when i am not using them so should anyone get access to my pc, they won't have access to any of the sites. it doesn't sound like the window lock serves any more purpose than the basic lock of your pc from the rest of your family when you are at home as the laptop falling into the hands of the IT adept when it is stolen and sold on will make little difference if it is window protected.
mutley104/12/2019 10:49

from the comment about how easy it is to bypass windows lock, i don't …from the comment about how easy it is to bypass windows lock, i don't think i will bother with locking my pc and continue as i am. the way i am doing it is far safer than locking the pc as i log out of all the sites when i am not using them so should anyone get access to my pc, they won't have access to any of the sites. it doesn't sound like the window lock serves any more purpose than the basic lock of your pc from the rest of your family when you are at home as the laptop falling into the hands of the IT adept when it is stolen and sold on will make little difference if it is window protected.


Why waste time logging in and out of sites though? What sites could people gain access to sensitive data from by being logged into them

you worry far too much about minutiae
chocci04/12/2019 10:53

Why waste time logging in and out of sites though? What sites could people …Why waste time logging in and out of sites though? What sites could people gain access to sensitive data from by being logged into themyou worry far too much about minutiae


errr, like your email!
shopping sites where you have your personal details stored on your profile, including your credit card details, to name but a few.
mutley104/12/2019 10:58

errr, like your email! shopping sites where you have your …errr, like your email! shopping sites where you have your personal details stored on your profile, including your credit card details, to name but a few.


any more than just that few then? Only a fool allows their credit card details to be stored on a shopping site unless its got 2FA in which case, no need to logoff

your email should auto logoff when its been stolen due to the location changing. I doubt a burglar is going to start messing with your laptop in your home
Edited by: "chocci" 4th Dec
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