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    Dodgy Ebay seller advice

    Hi Guys and Gals,

    Hubby purchased a polo shirt off of eBay a week or so ago and it turned up yesterday. It was described as a genuine Ralph Lauren polo shirt; however it wasnt! I put a claim through the PayPal resolution centre this morning and in 15 minutes it was closed in my favour. The problem is that I requested additional funds to return the item as I refuse to be out of pocket as its not my fault the seller was selling dodgy items. The seller has been in contact and acknowledged the refund and asked for positive feedback and they will do the same! They havent mentioned anywhere in their response about reimbursing me the cost of posting it back!!!

    My question is what would you do?

    I am tempted to say leave me positive feedback and I will do the same and keeping the shirt! teach them a lesson or would I be just as bad as them???

    44 Comments

    Banned

    I wouldn't send it back if it were fake anyway, your not supposed to send fakes through the post, phone paypal and tell them this and leave the negative feeedback he deserves to warn others.

    Banned

    2 wrongs don't make a right.

    Tell them you aren't returning it until you receive return post costs. And why positive someone for selling counterfit goods?

    You can't force a seller ro re-imburse you return postage BUT as it's fake you don't need to return it at all,make sure you leave NEG feedback to warn others.

    i agree we only had a problem once with a dodgy golf club and paypal said we should destroy it. It should not be returned.

    I dont thing they can leave negative feedback for you or if they did paypal would sort it out. Does anyone know more about the feedback situation as this will worry the OP

    Last time I got a fake item off eBay I filed a dispute with Paypal and then called them on the phone.

    Having explained the lady on the phone that the item was fake she closed the dispute as resolved and gave me an instant refund.

    I didn't have to send anything back at all or even wait for the ebay shop to further respond.

    Just bin the shirt.

    You are intending to state in your feedback even if you do leave positive that it was a fake,aren't you?

    You have your refund now so you don't actually have to send it back and your aren't supposed to return fakes to the seller anyhow

    Banned

    grabbit;8117393

    You are intending to state in your feedback even if you do leave positive … You are intending to state in your feedback even if you do leave positive that it was a fake,aren't you?You have your refund now so you don't actually have to send it back and your aren't supposed to return fakes to the seller anyhow



    Don't do this people don't really read positives, a big fat neg is in order to warn others:thumbsup:

    tinkerbell28;8117406

    Don't do this people don't really read positives, a big fat neg is in … Don't do this people don't really read positives, a big fat neg is in order to warn others:thumbsup:



    Yes,I know,but it would depend if the seller was in the habit of selling fakes or perhaps it had been a genuine error on their part and someone had sold it to them as genuine,I'd look at their other items for sale and decide from that

    Original Poster

    Thanks for all your comments guys; I was always going to leave negative feedback to warn others! Does anyone know of the repercussions on my feedback when I leave the negative feedback for the seller I do not want to tarnish my 100% feedback?!?!?

    princesspeanut;8117450

    Does anyone know of the repercussions on my feedback when I leave the … Does anyone know of the repercussions on my feedback when I leave the negative feedback for the seller I do not want to tarnish my 100% feedback?!?!?



    the seller could have you instantly suspended

    seller cant leave u negative feedback anyway.

    grabbit;8117464

    the seller could have you instantly suspended



    How can that be when the seller is in the wrong and haven't got a leg to stand on. They can't leave negative feedback or leave positive feedback with negative comments. I would just leave him negative feedback then add the seller to your block bidders list so he can't retaliate by buying one of your items in the future.

    You can also report him to trading standards and the Police. Had the same with a toe rag selling fake Fred Perry's last year, got my money back and handed the shirts to TS. I also informed the UK legal team of Fred Perry who had his accounts shut down and by the looks of things he hasn't resurfaced yet.

    princesspeanut;8117450

    Thanks for all your comments guys; I was always going to leave negative … Thanks for all your comments guys; I was always going to leave negative feedback to warn others! Does anyone know of the repercussions on my feedback when I leave the negative feedback for the seller I do not want to tarnish my 100% feedback?!?!?



    They may email you to ask why you left negative and be a little angry (this happened to me recently and i just ignored it)

    They cannot leave negative feedback for you but they can just not leave you any feedback at all .

    I wouldnt give it a seconds thought if you got shoddy goods then warn others without fear !

    Original Poster

    They can't leave negative feedback ?!?!? really ???

    princesspeanut;8117519

    They can't leave negative feedback ?!?!? really ???



    Yes,really! The seller can't do a thing to tarnish your record ;-)

    princesspeanut;8117519

    They can't leave negative feedback ?!?!? really ???



    Sellers can't leave any feedback but positive these days,

    if the seller sends you payment you have to return the item otherwise youve basically stolen the item,doesnt matter a jot that tem is fake it now doesnt belong to you as youve been refunded

    jamstaruk1972;8117589

    if the seller sends you payment you have to return the item otherwise … if the seller sends you payment you have to return the item otherwise youve basically stolen the item,doesnt matter a jot that tem is fake it now doesnt belong to you as youve been refunded



    Not if you give it to trading standards, plus Royal Mail terms are that you cannot send items of illegal status through their system, so the seller would have to collect it via other methods anyway

    jamstaruk1972;8117589

    if the seller sends you payment you have to return the item otherwise … if the seller sends you payment you have to return the item otherwise youve basically stolen the item,doesnt matter a jot that tem is fake it now doesnt belong to you as youve been refunded



    TS tell you not to return fake goods.

    Original Poster

    As decided by the masses I will leave negative feedback to warn others and the shirt, I will take to trading standards! I am not going to be out of pocket for posting it back and I do not want to give it back to them to sell on to someone else!!! I would imagine trading standards will ask for their details which i will be more than happy to pass on.

    Thank you for all your help and advice guys...

    princesspeanut;8117624

    As decided by the masses I will leave negative feedback to warn others … As decided by the masses I will leave negative feedback to warn others and the shirt, I will take to trading standards! I am not going to be out of pocket for posting it back and I do not want to give it back to them to sell on to someone else!!! I would imagine trading standards will ask for their details which i will be more than happy to pass on.Thank you for all your help and advice guys...



    :thumbsup:

    princesspeanut;8117624

    As decided by the masses I will leave negative feedback to warn others … As decided by the masses I will leave negative feedback to warn others and the shirt, I will take to trading standards! I am not going to be out of pocket for posting it back and I do not want to give it back to them to sell on to someone else!!! I would imagine trading standards will ask for their details which i will be more than happy to pass on.Thank you for all your help and advice guys...



    why its not your job to do trading standards job


    you wont post it back but happily be out of pocket taking it to ts?


    must be great to be so honest

    so you have never burned a cd,dvd,downloaded a film/tv show

    by all means leave neg feedback but return the item and let it go

    jamstaruk1972;8117668

    must be great to be so honestso you have never burned a cd,dvd,downloaded … must be great to be so honestso you have never burned a cd,dvd,downloaded a film/tv showby all means leave neg feedback but return the item and let it go



    The op may or may not have ever done any of which you describe above but i doubt he then sells it on ebay describing them as being genuine!

    jamstaruk1972;8117668

    why its not your job to do trading standards job you wont post it back … why its not your job to do trading standards job you wont post it back but happily be out of pocket taking it to ts?must be great to be so honestso you have never burned a cd,dvd,downloaded a film/tv showby all means leave neg feedback but return the item and let it go



    I don't understand your stance on this,TS tell you not to return the item,if the OP wants to spend her time taking it to TS what's the problem:roll:rather that than return it so the seller sells it on to some other unsuspecting buyer.

    Banned

    jamstaruk1972;8117668

    why its not your job to do trading standards job you wont post it back … why its not your job to do trading standards job you wont post it back but happily be out of pocket taking it to ts?must be great to be so honestso you have never burned a cd,dvd,downloaded a film/tv showby all means leave neg feedback but return the item and let it go



    You have missed the point here, the seller took their chances selling a fake, breaking the law himself ripping the buyer off.

    PAYPAL will tell her NOT to post it back as it's not allowed to pass through the postal system, it should be destroyed or returned to TS, so it can't be sold on.

    Original Poster

    jamstaruk1972;8117668

    why its not your job to do trading standards job you wont post it back … why its not your job to do trading standards job you wont post it back but happily be out of pocket taking it to ts?must be great to be so honestso you have never burned a cd,dvd,downloaded a film/tv showby all means leave neg feedback but return the item and let it go



    Hi jamstaruk1972, Thank you for your response; however the local trading standards office is 1.6 miles away from my home address and I walk past it on a daily basis, i will not be out of pocket and yes it is great to be so honest x :thumbsup:

    betting youl be walking around town with it on today

    Original Poster

    happy to make that bet, can I take my winnings by paypal gift!

    princesspeanut;8117809

    Hi jamstaruk1972, Thank you for your response; however the local trading … Hi jamstaruk1972, Thank you for your response; however the local trading standards office is 1.6 miles away from my home address and I walk past it on a daily basis, i will not be out of pocket and yes it is great to be so honest x :thumbsup:




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    why you looking for a demonoid invite then??

    jamstaruk1972;8117880

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/580368/does-anyone-have-a-demonoid-invite-?p=7503990#post7503990why you looking for a demonoid invite then??




    :-D

    deb8z;8117573

    Sellers can't leave any feedback but positive these days,



    Which is why I very rarely leave feedback these days...

    Original Poster

    To catch up on missed TV episodes of programmes that I have already paid for with my TV licence

    Banned

    jamstaruk1972;8117880

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/580368/does-anyone-have-a-demonoid-invite-?p=7503990#post7503990why you looking for a demonoid invite then??



    What's your point? It's totally irreleveant to the op. A seller sold her fake goods, she cannot return them through the post legally the only option is to destroy or retun to TS, this is standard practice on ebay.

    It may make the seller think twice before selling fakes, although I doubt it.

    tinkerbell28;8117938

    What's your point? It's totally irreleveant to the op.



    I think he's making the point that OP lacks the courage of their convictions...

    princesspeanut;8117930

    To catch up on missed TV episodes of programmes that I have already paid … To catch up on missed TV episodes of programmes that I have already paid for with my TV licence



    Your UK TV Licence sadly wonlt extend to programmes on US channels or subscription based UK channels....

    Not that I'm in either camp as I openly admit to downloading movies and TV shows...

    jamstaruk1972;8117880

    http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/580368/does-anyone-have-a-demonoid-invite-?p=7503990#post7503990why you looking for a demonoid invite then??



    Using Demonoid doesn't mean anything, Ok you can get copyrighted stuff from it but often use these sites for non copyrighted material or for new bands who often post on there with intent for marketing purposes.

    Banned

    Flodd;8117962

    I think he's making the point that OP lacks the courage of their … I think he's making the point that OP lacks the courage of their convictions...



    It's irrelevant to the thread though..........she does not have to send back if fake as legally she can't send counterfiet goods through the post, so I wouldn't either, seller took his chances.

    simplyjimbo;8118003

    Using Demonoid doesn't mean anything, Ok you can get copyrighted stuff … Using Demonoid doesn't mean anything, Ok you can get copyrighted stuff from it but often use these sites for non copyrighted material or for new bands who often post on there with intent for marketing purposes.



    What about Mininova & PirateBay :?

    tinkerbell28;8118015

    It's irrelevant to the thread though..........she does not have to send … It's irrelevant to the thread though..........she does not have to send back if fake as legally she can't send counterfiet goods through the post, so I wouldn't either, seller took his chances.



    Yes it's irrelevant to the original question,but it isn't irrevelant to the stance OP is implying on honesty

    Banned

    grabbit;8118018

    What about Mininova & PirateBay :?Yes it's irrelevant to the original … What about Mininova & PirateBay :?Yes it's irrelevant to the original question,but it isn't irrevelant to the stance OP is implying on honesty



    Why the hell should that be in question, it's none of anyones business. The question was how she deals with the seller as she does not want to be out of pocket for return postage for a fake.

    Fakes don't have to be or should not be returned, that's not her fault, it's always the same on ebay, due to the issue with counterfeit goods and the postal service.

    Why the hell should she be having a character assasination when that's the way it is, and that's what she asked for, not people ripping her whole character to shreds. She asked how to deal with the cost of getting her postage back, people then said she should not return anyway.

    This place amazes me sometimes.

    grabbit;8118018

    What about Mininova & PirateBay :?



    Thats just getting value for money...ie the money you paid for your internet :whistling:..Kidding all illegal downloads are not right and are the cause of the loss of jobs to the average Joe and their businesses and not forgetting the right to make overly paid superstars even richer so that they can live a life being tax exiles.

    OP just report the seller, he misled you in to buying a fake item when he knew it was not authentic. At least if you do use Demonoid etc you know that you are getting a fake item. The difference between the two is being knowledgeable to the provenance of the item.
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