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    Does Anyone Have Any Experience With School Appeals?

    Found out tonight that my little lad didn't get into the school we applied for.
    Does anyone have any tips for the appeal? ( Primary BTW)
    I am gutted... he has attended the pre-school since September, and thinks that it will be his 'big school'....

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    Same thing happened with us when my son was due to start school. I contacted my local MSP who then contacted the local authority - and it got overturned. Definitely worth going to see your MP - you pay their wages, so use them:)

    PM on the way.

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    bossyboots;8029497

    Same thing happened with us when my son was due to start school. I … Same thing happened with us when my son was due to start school. I contacted my local MSP who then contacted the local authority - and it got overturned. Definitely worth going to see your MP - you pay their wages, so use them:)



    Whoa there.... I have seen nothing of this in my online searches so far.....:?

    What did you do? Just contact your local councilor?

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    chesso;8029502

    PM on the way.



    Cool....! :-D

    dmh77;8029506

    Whoa there.... I have seen nothing of this in my online searches so … Whoa there.... I have seen nothing of this in my online searches so far.....:?What did you do? Just contact your local councilor?



    Yip. As simple as this..........checked local paper for their next surgery - went down - told them the reasons why we wanted our son to go to that school. They said they would write to the local authority - two weeks later we got a letter from the local authority telling us they had reversed their decision and that our son could now enrol at the school.

    You need to have good reasons though but am sure you have. good luck and let us know how you get on.

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    bossyboots;8029516

    Yip. As simple as this..........checked local paper for their next … Yip. As simple as this..........checked local paper for their next surgery - went down - told them the reasons why we wanted our son to go to that school. They said they would write to the local authority - two weeks later we got a letter from the local authority telling us they had reversed their decision and that our son could now enrol at the school.You need to have good reasons though but am sure you have. good luck and let us know how you get on.



    Thank you!

    we had a big problem with this also, you're gonna need a heck of a good reason to get the place mp or no mp. good luck.

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    bargain surfer;8029536

    we had a big problem with this also, you're gonna need a heck of a good … we had a big problem with this also, you're gonna need a heck of a good reason to get the place mp or no mp. good luck.



    :-(

    This is my thinking.... not that I like it!!!

    We live in the village, OH works in the village ( and can drop him off on the way to work... I will be long gone to work by the time school starts!)

    The school they have offered is nearly two miles in the other direction, and schools the housing estate linked to it.... :?

    dmh77;8029554

    :-(This is my thinking.... not that I like it!!!We live in the village, … :-(This is my thinking.... not that I like it!!!We live in the village, OH works in the village ( and can drop him off on the way to work... I will be long gone to work by the time school starts!)The school they have offered is nearly two miles in the other direction, and schools the housing estate linked to it.... :?



    Well thats similar to the reasons I wanted to change schools for my son. When he was starting primary school, it was just my wee boy and I. I work full time and the school I wanted him to go to was 2 minutes from my parents house - and they would be picking him up from school most days.

    You dont need a mega heart wrenching story to change their school as they do understand people's circumstances and try help if they can.

    bossyboots;8029562

    Well thats similar to the reasons I wanted to change schools for my son. … Well thats similar to the reasons I wanted to change schools for my son. When he was starting primary school, it was just my wee boy and I. I work full time and the school I wanted him to go to was 2 minutes from my parents house - and they would be picking him up from school most days. You dont need a mega heart wrenching story to change their school as they do understand people's circumstances and try help if they can.


    Maybe different places have different approach, my kids were given places at two different schools, despite the older one having completed 1 yr they gave a place elsewhere while the younger one got a place at this school. To make matters worse the older one was full time and the younger part time.
    Try juggling two schools 3 miles apart AND a total of 6 trips (full timer home for dinner) with start and finish times for both within minutes of each other! Was impossible to do bearing in mind all the other household jobs. We got the mp involved AND sat an appeal which was refused, in the end the older one finally managed to get a place but had to start in December! Believe me this was not easy for us and took a mega amount of effort to sort out.

    Had the LEA not sorted this out it would have been physically impossible for the older one to get to school unless we moved one in to live with the grand parents.

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    dcx_badass;8029620

    I thought the schools sorted it out? The Secondary School I went to do it … I thought the schools sorted it out? The Secondary School I went to do it themselves.



    Think we will have to sit in a 'trial' of sorts... looks like it will be of governors though....... :thinking:

    Wow... I've heard of a couple of stories like this.. it seems such a mess in this country. Just glad I didn't have to go throught it all!

    Edit: Obviously I don't have any advice, but good luck!

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    InfernoZeus;8029638

    Wow... I've heard of a couple of stories like this.. it seems such a mess … Wow... I've heard of a couple of stories like this.. it seems such a mess in this country. Just glad I didn't have to go throught it all!Edit: Obviously I don't have any advice, but good luck!



    Lol......... thanks anyway!! ;-)

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    dcx_badass;8029654

    DId aah not go to the same school? I thought most were sibbling auto got … DId aah not go to the same school? I thought most were sibbling auto got in if one child had already been.



    Nope... the lil one will be going to a school over the other side of town.......

    We are moving in with the OH... when he finishes building the extension ........:thinking:

    this happened to me with my eldest, then we worried about the youngest and eldest getting placement in the same school.

    My advice would be not to appeal, search for another decent school with places and note you child there. Look for the offsted report on how the school is performing.

    My son was rejected on the grounds he wasn't polish, as 80% of the children that go there now are. :lol: quite glad in hindsight that I moved them

    loll1es;8029735

    My son was rejected on the grounds he wasn't polish,



    What rubbish.

    thesaint;8029789

    What rubbish.



    proof?

    My daughters first choice was rejected too I don't have any good reasons to appeal though, other than the fact she has been doing to the pre-school attached to it... Luckily she got her 2nd choice which is a very highly recommended school so I shouldn't be TOO disappointed. I just have to like it or lump it. MIGHT possibly be moving over the summer holidays ANYway which means she'd start at a new school anyway. In my case it's not worth appealing, but you definitely should.

    In my letter I got appeal forms in case I wanted to. Did you not get appeal forms? xx

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    dmh77;8029554

    :-(This is my thinking.... not that I like it!!!We live in the village, … :-(This is my thinking.... not that I like it!!!We live in the village, OH works in the village ( and can drop him off on the way to work... I will be long gone to work by the time school starts!)The school they have offered is nearly two miles in the other direction, and schools the housing estate linked to it.... :?



    2 miles and a housing estate? That is simply shocking

    boothy;8029849

    proof?



    I would like to see proof too. Good call.

    thesaint;8030209

    I would like to see proof too. Good call.



    Your apology is accepted,thanks stain

    Both my parents have been on appeals panels, whatever you do DONT say you have already bought the uniform! Had loads of parents saying this and it just annoys the panel and makes them less likely to listen and more likely to say no.

    Mention the difficulties for yourself/partner in dropping him off and picking him up, but focus more on him already being comfortable with the school, knowing the other kids and teachers. He feels confident going to 'big school' only because he thinks its the school he is currently in

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    sxybikeruk;8029867

    My daughters first choice was rejected too I don't have any good … My daughters first choice was rejected too I don't have any good reasons to appeal though, other than the fact she has been doing to the pre-school attached to it... Luckily she got her 2nd choice which is a very highly recommended school so I shouldn't be TOO disappointed. I just have to like it or lump it. MIGHT possibly be moving over the summer holidays ANYway which means she'd start at a new school anyway. In my case it's not worth appealing, but you definitely should.In my letter I got appeal forms in case I wanted to. Did you not get appeal forms? xx



    The letter only arrived this morning, I found out by checking on line last night, I am on with sorting an appeal though, thanks! X :thumbsup:

    dimebars;8030184

    2 miles and a housing estate? That is simply shocking



    Not really...... but then, you are making sweeping assumptions based on nothing.... jog on....

    kelly_o_fanatic;8030356

    Both my parents have been on appeals panels, whatever you do DONT say you … Both my parents have been on appeals panels, whatever you do DONT say you have already bought the uniform! Had loads of parents saying this and it just annoys the panel and makes them less likely to listen and more likely to say no.Mention the difficulties for yourself/partner in dropping him off and picking him up, but focus more on him already being comfortable with the school, knowing the other kids and teachers. He feels confident going to 'big school' only because he thinks its the school he is currently in



    Thanks for the advice! ;-)

    I had the same last year. I appealed but it never came to that. Everyone I know who wanted to go to the school got in in the end even though there is only one class of 30! People who were 21st on the reserve list still got in.
    I think it was Mumsnet that had lots of advice. Basically don't moan about the school they are going to but focus on why you need that school. I focuesed on the factit was a C of E school. Also look at the ofsted reports. My son was down as talented and gifted and my chosen school faired better on that area. Also how he was already settled and the fact that he didn't respond well to change. All things like that help.
    I know it is easy to say but at this stage last year I knew lots in this position. One of my friends never had a place in September but a week before she was due to start she had a place allocated. Don't forget that others will reject their place at this school if offered one somewhere else, especially if you have different local authorities in the area (we are in the middle of 3). Your child legally doesn't have to start school until the term after their 5th birthday so you may have more time to play with afterwards.

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    wookiemummy;8032174

    I had the same last year. I appealed but it never came to that. Everyone … I had the same last year. I appealed but it never came to that. Everyone I know who wanted to go to the school got in in the end even though there is only one class of 30! People who were 21st on the reserve list still got in. I think it was Mumsnet that had lots of advice. Basically don't moan about the school they are going to but focus on why you need that school. I focuesed on the factit was a C of E school. Also look at the ofsted reports. My son was down as talented and gifted and my chosen school faired better on that area. Also how he was already settled and the fact that he didn't respond well to change. All things like that help. I know it is easy to say but at this stage last year I knew lots in this position. One of my friends never had a place in September but a week before she was due to start she had a place allocated. Don't forget that others will reject their place at this school if offered one somewhere else, especially if you have different local authorities in the area (we are in the middle of 3). Your child legally doesn't have to start school until the term after their 5th birthday so you may have more time to play with afterwards.



    Thanks....
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