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    Does anyone know the lowdown on xbox consoles? (Couple of last questions please?)

    Hi guys!

    Have been asked by my neighbour about which xbox console to get but I haven't got a clue about them. What they're after is an xbox 360 console for playing the guitar hero (or whatever it's called) game with. So my question is basically what do they need? I've seen 3 different consoles but not sure which one they need, would the arcade one be ok or are they better off getting the standard if it's not much more as it'd be better in the long run?

    I assume they just need the guitar hero game then? Does it come with guitar? They said they wanted to get the drum kit/microphone etc as well, are they all extras or included?

    Is there a better alternative? Wii music for example, looks a bit pants to me but there may be something better out there? Is there a guitar hero world tour game or something? Is that worth getting instead of the standard version?

    Sorry for all the questions, no need to answer them all, just need a general idea as to what's best to get and whether there's anything they need to know.

    Cheers!

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    >Have been asked by my neighbour about which xbox console to get but I haven't got a clue about them.

    Makes me wonder why he asked you then

    Any xbox 360 will play guitar hero. Guitar Hero 2 had a wired guitar that you had to plug in the front of the 360. Guitar Hero 3 has a wireless one. If he's trying to save money then 2 is much cheaper.

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    guilbert53;3606803

    Have been asked by my neighbour about which xbox console to get but I … >Have been asked by my neighbour about which xbox console to get but I haven't got a clue about them.Makes me wonder why he asked you then



    lol! They always ask me about this stuff, they're quite a bit older than me and usually ask me if they need something like this. They're buying it as a present.

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    SunTzu;3606830

    Any xbox 360 will play guitar hero. Guitar Hero 2 had a wired guitar that … Any xbox 360 will play guitar hero. Guitar Hero 2 had a wired guitar that you had to plug in the front of the 360. Guitar Hero 3 has a wireless one. If he's trying to save money then 2 is much cheaper.



    Cheers, I don't think they're too bothered about the money as they're getting the console for someone.

    I assume just one guitar with the game, what about drums, mic etc?

    Original Poster

    Now I'm really confused, I've just seen that you can get it for the wii console too. Which one is better? xbox version or wii version?

    Depends on the TV but any 360 package would do but the ones with the HDD are better as they allow you to download demos and extra songs.

    Get the guitar hero 'band bundle' that you can get from HMV or wherever that includes instruments and the game.

    If he/she has an HDTV then get the 360 version (it's high definition) if they just have a CRT TV then either is fine.

    Benjimoron;3606842

    Cheers, I don't think they're too bothered about the money as they're … Cheers, I don't think they're too bothered about the money as they're getting the console for someone.I assume just one guitar with the game, what about drums, mic etc?



    Yes you do just get the one guitar but you can buy others 2nd hand pretty cheap from CEX.

    If you want the drums and stuff then that's Rock Band you need which is a lot more expensive.

    Can't comment on the wii version as I don't have it.

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    Ungreat;3606888

    Depends on the TV but any 360 package would do but the ones with the HDD … Depends on the TV but any 360 package would do but the ones with the HDD are better.Get the guitar hero 'band bundle' that you can get from HMV or wherever that includes instruments and the game.If he/she has an HDTV then get the 360 version (it's high definition) if they just have a CRT TV then either is fine.



    Ah I see.

    So xbox version is likely to be better (as similar price).

    I saw the kit is like £150? So that's £300 overall!! I hope the present is for me!

    Anyway, do I need the arcade version of xbox or a better one? I assume the one you mean with a HDD is the standard version rather than arcade?

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    SunTzu;3606898

    Yes you do just get the one guitar but you can buy others 2nd hand pretty … Yes you do just get the one guitar but you can buy others 2nd hand pretty cheap from CEX.If you want the drums and stuff then that's Rock Band you need which is a lot more expensive.Can't comment on the wii version as I don't have it.



    Thanks for the help guys, gonna dish out some rep before xfactor.

    I think rock band is what they want!

    Looks like best thing is xbox 360(standard version) and rock band. Total cost around £300 unless someone's got a better suggestion?

    Original Poster

    £166.34 from Amazon a reasonable price for the standard xbox 360? Can't see anywhere cheaper.

    No what you want is 'Guitar Hero world tour - Band Bundle'.

    http://www3.hmv.co.uk/hmv/Large_Images/SSGAMES/815541_01.JPG

    http://ageekspot.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/guitar-hero-world-tour-live-d-1.jpg

    Rock band came out a while ago but Guitar Hero just came out so is the one advertised on TV at the minute.

    Rival products with similar theme just that GH:WT is the newer one.

    Original Poster

    Yep, just seen poor reviews of rock band. I meant guitar hero band bundle. £150 for that, reasonable?

    Original Poster

    Couple of last questions please.

    If they go for the arcade xbox rather than the standard, what do they miss out on? Just a hard drive? Can they upgrade later? Roughly how much?

    If they go for the guitar hero rather than the drums etc pack, can they add the drums etc later?

    I'd strongly recommend that they go for a Premium/Pro console (the one with the 60GB HDD). The new dashboard update will take up half of the space on the memory card that comes with the Arcade, so if they want to download songs (or play other games) there's not much space left at all.

    Exactly what they wouldn't get if they were to buy an Arcade console:

    Silver Disc Tray
    HDMI cable (I think, although the arcade still has an HDMI port)
    Component cable (Arcade comes with composite/scart cable)
    Network cable
    Headset
    60GB HDD

    If they did buy an Arcade console, they could upgrade later by getting an Xbox Live Starter Kit, which consists of a 60GB HDD, headset, network cable, and 3 months Xbox Live all for about £50 (which is about the difference between the Arcade and Premium consoles anyway).

    By the way, Rock Band is much better than Guitar Hero.

    jbarnett;3609494

    I'd strongly recommend that they go for a Premium/Pro console (the one … I'd strongly recommend that they go for a Premium/Pro console (the one with the 60GB HDD). The new dashboard update will take up half of the space on the memory card that comes with the Arcade, so if they want to download songs (or play other games) there's not much space left at all.Exactly what they wouldn't get if they were to buy an Arcade console:Silver Disc Tray (lol)HDMI cable (I think, although the arcade still has an HDMI port)Component cable (Arcade comes with composite/scart cable)Network cableHeadset60GB HDDIf they did buy an Arcade console, they could upgrade later by getting an Xbox Live Starter Kit, which consists of a 60GB HDD, headset, network cable, and 3 months Xbox Live all for about £50 (which is about the difference between the Arcade and Premium consoles anyway).By the way, Rock Band is much better than Guitar Hero.



    Noooo

    I say guitar hero is better. The new version especially is supposed to have better drums and the guitars have a new slide function.

    The OP could always buy the 60gb 360 from gamestation that comes with mirrors edge then take that game to HMV (or wherever) to get twenty or so pound trade off the cost of Guitar Hero : World tour (band bundle).

    Make sure you get band bundle and not just the instrument pack or it won't include the game.

    From personal experience.........i much prefer the new GH World Tour to Rockband. Better Guitar, Drums have cymbals plus it has a funky little studio to create your own stuff.

    As for the singing part........pass............i've never got bored enough to subject the househould to that yet. :-D

    Ungreat;3611330

    NooooI say guitar hero is better. The new version especially is supposed … NooooI say guitar hero is better. The new version especially is supposed to have better drums and the guitars have a new slide function. :)The OP could always buy the 60gb 360 from gamestation that comes with mirrors edge then take that game to HMV (or wherever) to get twenty or so pound trade off the cost of Guitar Hero : World tour (band bundle).Make sure you get band bundle and not just the instrument pack or it won't include the game.



    +1:thumbsup:

    I got both Rock Band(Xbox 360 and guitar Hero(PS3) - Guitar Hero World Tour Band bundle is better than Rock Band band bundle IMO.

    Guitar and Drums are miles better - the Rock Band guitar is horrible!!! It's drum are alot nosier than Guitar Hero's too.

    Syzable;3611357

    From personal experience.........i much prefer the new GH World Tour to … From personal experience.........i much prefer the new GH World Tour to Rockband. Better Guitar, Drums have cymbals plus it has a funky little studio to create your own stuff.As for the singing part........pass............i've never got bored enough to subject the househould to that yet. :-D



    robtallica;3611372

    +1:thumbsup:I got both Rock Band(Xbox 360 and guitar Hero(PS3) - Guitar … +1:thumbsup:I got both Rock Band(Xbox 360 and guitar Hero(PS3) - Guitar Hero World Tour Band bundle is better than Rock Band band bundle IMO.Guitar and Drums are miles better - the Rock Band guitar is horrible!!! It's drums are alot nosier than Guitar Hero's too.



    Snap Sy, great minds 'n all that... :-D

    robtallica;3611380

    Snap Sy, great minds 'n all that... :-D



    I'm just trying to master Hard at the mo........my reactions are too slow now though. These things happen apparently in your mid 30's :cry: :lol:

    Syzable;3611417

    I'm just trying to master Hard at the mo........my reactions are too slow … I'm just trying to master Hard at the mo........my reactions are too slow now though. These things happen apparently in your mid 30's :cry: :lol:



    I'm doing well on Hard mode on guitar - though I am now a bit stuck - Some Might Say was a swine to get passed too.

    I have to play the drums on medium as their relatively harder than guitar - I worked up a sweat trying to get past the 3 Tool tracks. Drums are great when your feeling cold, soon get warmed up:-D

    Btw how easy is bass mode? I'm enjoying it but it's so darn easy:?

    I know.........Bass Mode makes you look a master. :-D

    Some Might Say is a mare...........i checked it out on Expert...........lasted around 10 seconds before being booed off. lol

    Syzable;3611458

    I know.........Bass Mode makes you look a master. :-DSome Might Say is a … I know.........Bass Mode makes you look a master. :-DSome Might Say is a mare...........i checked it out on Expert...........lasted around 10 seconds before being booed off. lol



    Ain't it weird how much better the tracks sound when you play them through GH4.

    When I drummed to 'Livin' on a prayer' my smile stayed on my face for days haha.

    Bass playing to 'eye of the tiger' too - felt like the man!

    robtallica;3611478

    Ain't it weird how much better the tracks sound when you play them … Ain't it weird how much better the tracks sound when you play them through GH4.When I drummed to 'Livin' on a prayer' my smile stayed on my face for days haha.Bass playing to 'eye of the tiger' too - felt like the man!



    Agreed.........GH sounds 'right', Rock Band doesn't quite seem like you're actually doing it.

    I love playing Living On A Prayer but was gutted it was a bit easy and didn't have a massive fret bar session. :-( Also Beastie Boys on Drums is funky-do-dah. Also loving Van Halen Hot For Teacher on Guitar.

    I'm hoping I get GH:WT for crimbo as all my family will be up so me and my Brothers will be able to cover the whole band. My older brothers a singer so even that's covered.

    Ungreat;3611499

    I'm hoping I get GH:WT for crimbo as all my family will be up so me and … I'm hoping I get GH:WT for crimbo as all my family will be up so me and my Brothers will be able to cover the whole band. My older brothers a singer so even that's covered.



    I get my 4 year old to sing. :oops: He just whales out any old nonsense...........usually Jingle Bells. :lol:

    Ungreat;3611499

    I'm hoping I get GH:WT for crimbo as all my family will be up so me and … I'm hoping I get GH:WT for crimbo as all my family will be up so me and my Brothers will be able to cover the whole band. My older brothers a singer so even that's covered.



    Hope you get it - so much fun

    @sy

    Sounds cute your son singing with you :lol:

    One of the weirder tracks was this one by Willie Nelson 'On the road again'

    The drum parts were one continuous line of drum hits non stop - my arms nearly fell off. Good job it's short!

    The new RB drums are much quieter, and in my opinions the cymbals are pretty naff and pointless, and the slide thing for the GH guitar doesn't work very well.

    More fundamentally, the song for RB1 & 2 are both better than that of GH:WT, and the note windows for GH are way too wide. You can be sloppy to the point of playing triplets for a riff that goes: o o o x o o o x o o o (o's notes, x's spaces) and it'll still play properly.

    Banned

    I dont think the arcade can go online..............

    csiman;3619582

    I dont think the arcade can go online..............



    If thats a joke, ill play along...

    Yeh the arcade cant go online. Microsoft have pre-banned all arcades so they can never go online.
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