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    Does she seriously expect to get away with it?

    I hope not! (link in post 2)

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    o thats sickening on so many levels!

    i mean i know some ppl have easy births...... but she did a poo and as she flushed she saw the babys foot....errrrm.... didnt she hear a big plop when baby apparently just fell in? and wasnt she aware of the massive umbillical cord. and if this is her first didnt she feel the baby crown for goodness sakes?!

    ridiculous....im so annoyed!

    ?!?! I wish my births had only felt like i had an upset tummy !

    I suppose you don't know until you are in the situation-but it was a big baby-neither of mine were that big and the labour went on for hours and was agony-and i cettainly felt them come out !

    She does need help though-poor baby-and whatever she has done she must be suffering now.

    thats weird story

    This is shocking, she must have felt something for gods sake!!!

    OMG what a seriously horrible woman.How could she do that and if only my 3 births felt like that!

    Original Poster

    I know :x

    Guess it didn't occur to her that having bad stomach pains 1 week after she was due to drop a baby could have possible been labour pains? :?

    And then she just happened to flush the toilet whilst still sitting on it? It like one of those stories when you just have to add extra, more ridiculous things to cover up the last lie.

    Has she no conscience? :x

    You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until proven guilty?

    Original Poster

    mrsevans101;3554166

    You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until … You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until proven guilty?



    I have never posted a news story before, but THIS is just ain't right! :x

    Come on

    It is truely horrendous but I knew someone at school who didn't even know she was pregnant and gave birth on the toilet thinking she was doin a poo!!
    I just wonder if she's heard stories like this before and thought she'd get away with it:?

    mrsevans101;3554166

    You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until … You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until proven guilty?



    some stomach ache there just a 7lb baby comes out in the toliet and she flushes it yeah right i have never had a cra* weighing that much lol. sorry but this is such a stupid thing for her to say to me you cannot mistake giving birth to an upset stomach.

    there was another years ago that gave birth on the loo and put the baby in a blanket box in her room and went away for the weekend to Blackpool with her boyfriend rode the fair and everything! She said she thought he was dead-her parents heard him cry the next day and saved him.
    Madness but i seriously wonder what happens to someones mind to do that?

    Well dont you think its odd she never told about being pregnant. erm adds a little to the story dont it erm maybe thats what makes he seem guilty.

    She must have 1 hell of a bucket ima pmsl.
    it doesnt add up to an innocent scenerio does it

    Banned

    The story may go along way had she not wiped herself, but the placenta would have still been attatched to her and her baby, a disgusting story to get away with a disgusting secret, and no i dont believe anyone goes through 9 months and doesnt know

    hannah19790;3554202

    It is truely horrendous but I knew someone at school who didn't even know … It is truely horrendous but I knew someone at school who didn't even know she was pregnant and gave birth on the toilet thinking she was doin a poo!!I just wonder if she's heard stories like this before and thought she'd get away with it:?



    YOU COULD UNDERSTAND A YOUNG GIRL BEING CONFUSED , BUT COME ON A GROWN UP WOMAN. TO HIDE THE PREGNANCY SHOWS SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE PREGNANT.

    sassie;3554301

    The story may go along way had she not wiped herself, but the placenta … The story may go along way had she not wiped herself, but the placenta would have still been attatched to her and her baby, a disgusting story to get away with a disgusting secret, and no i dont believe anyone goes through 9 months and doesnt know



    Quite so.
    I do know one case where no one else knew for nine months but the mum did!! And I know of another case where the doctor kept insisting that the chubby mum to be was imagining things until the baby arrived but this mum knew perfectly well.
    Utterly dreadful on all levels and she has been dealt with very leniently. I don't know how she will ever be able to live with herself.

    That was one heck of a wheat allergy, did her family and friends really fall for that one? She must've had a reasonable sized bump for a 7½lb baby. I didn't have a very big bump with my two girls but there was still no way I could've passed it off as a wheat allergy!!!???!!!

    Banned

    mrsevans101;3554166

    You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until … You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until proven guilty?



    How about the fact she was found guilty in court?

    BBC

    Following a trial at Cardiff Crown Court in August, she was given a 48 … Following a trial at Cardiff Crown Court in August, she was given a 48 weeks' suspended jail sentence for concealing the baby's birth.

    Original Poster

    colinsunderland;3555138

    How about the fact she was found guilty in court?



    WTF! Seriously?

    People get more than that for nonsense things! :x

    Banned

    the trial continues, she has only been found guilty of concealing the babys birth, nothing else yet

    i'm not a woman so the whole birth giving experience is beyond me but i'm pretty sure that, no matter who you are, pushing out an object weighing anything between 6-10lbs is bound to be hard work! if she expects us to believe that she thought she was having a regular toilet break then i would like to know what kind of diet she was having that would allow a turd the size of a fist to squeeze through! also isn't there the whole not having a period during pregnancy thing to think about?

    Banned

    Kwokalicious she knew she was pregnant

    Banned

    sassie;3555179

    the trial continues, she has only been found guilty of concealing the … the trial continues, she has only been found guilty of concealing the babys birth, nothing else yet



    Its an inquest not a trial so she won't be found guilty of anything else unless more charges follow.

    Regardless of that I was replying to a comment saying 'innocent until proven guilty', and I was making the point she was guilty!

    Banned

    i thought i read somewhere the trial continues? if they cqannot proove the baby was born alive then i cant see how they going to charge her with anything else, go for neglect maybe, although not sure if they can

    FFs she left her dead baby in a car boot for 10 DAYS!!!!!!!!

    Regardless of if she knew she had given birth or not she knew at the point she put that poor child in the car what had happend

    I didn't want to hurt anybody. I just messed everything up."



    I hope she rots in hell

    Ohmygo thats sick! how could she do something like that and claim to miss the baby awell

    What the hell is wrong with these people who like messing with children and babies?!!!!

    ITS-ME;3554368

    YOU COULD UNDERSTAND A YOUNG GIRL BEING CONFUSED , BUT COME ON A GROWN UP … YOU COULD UNDERSTAND A YOUNG GIRL BEING CONFUSED , BUT COME ON A GROWN UP WOMAN. TO HIDE THE PREGNANCY SHOWS SHE DID NOT WANT TO BE PREGNANT.



    No need to shout m8!! I agree, as u'd get if u re-read my post. I was just saying I knew someone who had a baby without even knowing she was pregnant not alone giving birth - THATS ALL:roll:

    I know what your saying but all i ment is that she went through nine months not telling anyone. To me that sounds like she did not want to be pregnant let alone have a baby. No offence hannah19790

    Banned

    mrsevans101;3554166

    You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until … You all assume she's lying then? Whatever happened untl innocent until proven guilty?


    did you actually read it all. There are so many flaws in her story that only an idiot would believe her. Cant believe she didnt get punished for the death, just concealing the birth :x

    Original Poster

    csiman;3564185

    did you actually read it all. There are so many flaws in her story that … did you actually read it all. There are so many flaws in her story that only an idiot would believe her. Cant believe she didnt get punished for the death, just concealing the birth :x



    Well they are saying they can't tell if the baby was alive at birth - Well it didn't have a bl**dy chance did it?

    Mrs.Z;3565311

    Well they are saying they can't tell if the baby was alive at birth - … Well they are saying they can't tell if the baby was alive at birth - Well it didn't have a bl**dy chance did it?




    unless we are mad she caused the death one way or another:x

    there must have been some immense splashback from that...............

    Unbelievable story, so much for 'the evil that men do'

    She should have her head chopped off for that - total scum.

    ITS-ME;3563385

    I know what your saying but all i ment is that she went through nine … I know what your saying but all i ment is that she went through nine months not telling anyone. To me that sounds like she did not want to be pregnant let alone have a baby. No offence hannah19790



    :oops: I'd had a few last night, no offence taken hun. I do 100% agree with you. She knew exactly wot she was doing, she killed that baby - there are NO excuse!!

    robtallica;3565673

    She should have her head chopped off for that - total scum.



    hannah19790;3566747

    :oops: I'd had a few last night, no offence taken hun. I do 100% agree … :oops: I'd had a few last night, no offence taken hun. I do 100% agree with you. She knew exactly wot she was doing, she killed that baby - there are NO excuse!!



    I liked how I put it better:thumbsup: ^^

    Hey you

    robtallica;3566783

    I liked how I put it better:thumbsup: ^^Hey you



    haha hey hun, so did I!! :whistling:

    hannah19790;3566747

    :oops: I'd had a few last night, no offence taken hun. I do 100% agree … :oops: I'd had a few last night, no offence taken hun. I do 100% agree with you. She knew exactly wot she was doing, she killed that baby - there are NO excuse!!



    clearly shows that the law is an arse:x

    louloo;3566850

    clearly shows that the law is an arse:x



    lets us down everytime!
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