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    Does sky+ box still work if I cancel sky subscription ?

    I know from cancelling previously, after having a standard box ,that will still get the freeview channels but will I still be able to use the sky+ facility ?

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    No - unless you pay £10 for the recorder facilities.

    It also means any sky channels you have already saved will be lost (ie you dont now subscribe so you lose access to those channels on any sky package you have recorded. Any freesat ones will be ok though.)

    No. afraid not.

    No recording, the card will receive Freesat for a while, but then probably be cancelled

    Original Poster

    Ok cheers x

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    dealtaker;3164316

    No recording, the card will receive Freesat for a while, but then … No recording, the card will receive Freesat for a while, but then probably be cancelled



    Freesat channels don't need a viewing card. Some of the sky package that are free do however need a card. Not many though. Not sure why you think they would switch the card off.

    guv;3164379

    Freesat channels don't need a viewing card. Some of the sky package that … Freesat channels don't need a viewing card. Some of the sky package that are free do however need a card. Not many though. Not sure why you think they would switch the card off.



    Actually there are two different types of satellite freeview - free-to-air and free-to-view (FreeSat).

    You'll get free-to-air if you were not subscribed to any package. remove your Sky card and whatever channels you get are free-to-air.

    Now, if you want to turn your Sky into the most populated freeview box, contact Sky and get a Free-to-View (FreeSat) card for a one off fee of £20.

    freesatfromsky.co.uk/faq…spx

    There are many more channels available via FreeSat than FTA or FreeView.

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    Xb0xGuru;3165081

    Actually there are two different types of satellite freeview - … Actually there are two different types of satellite freeview - free-to-air and free-to-view (FreeSat).There are many more channels available via FreeSat than FTA or FreeView.



    I know - that's why I said "freesat" as I was referring to the non encypted FTA channels that would be unaffected even if you removed the card and the free sky channels which would be scrambled if removed. Freeview is terrestrial only.

    guv;3165112

    I know - that's why I said "freesat" as I was referring to the non … I know - that's why I said "freesat" as I was referring to the non encypted FTA channels that would be unaffected even if you removed the card and the free sky channels which would be scrambled if removed. Freeview is terrestrial only.



    No, FreeSat is the specific package offered by Sky, requiring a viewing card one off payment.

    What you were talking about is just known as FTA.

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    Xb0xGuru;3165212

    No, FreeSat is the specific package offered by Sky, requiring a viewing … No, FreeSat is the specific package offered by Sky, requiring a viewing card one off payment.What you were talking about is just known as FTA.



    Wrong. ]Freesat is the name of the group headed by the BBC, ITV etc.

    You are both right really.

    Guv is right that freesat is the BBC, ITV thing..........but........you do only get all the freesat channels with the sky card otherwise some are decrypted.

    guv;3165271

    Wrong. ]Freesat is the name of the group headed by the BBC, ITV etc.



    The FreeSat product is (as you rightly stated) a totally separate product. However in order to get the channels specified with Sky equipment you do need a viewing card to do so. As I said, otherwise it's FTA only and these channels are not available.

    so back to your original statement, you DO still need a viewing card for all the specified FTV (FreeSat) channels.

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    Syzable;3165297

    You are both right really.Guv is right that freesat is the BBC, ITV … You are both right really.Guv is right that freesat is the BBC, ITV thing..........but........you do only get all the freesat channels with the sky card otherwise some are decrypted.



    Which is precisely what I said in post 6 - but got corrected on!:thinking:

    Its a confusing term "freesat" - but that is the official name that BBC/ITV use for its service. Obviously because they are not encyrpted, the sky box will pick them up and sky will happily badge them as being provided by them. The truth is, they dont. (Looking on one of their websites called freesatonsky - it actually spells it out at the bottom of the page that most of the channels are provided by third parties - ie Freesat!

    There are not that many channels outside this lot, that are free but viewing card needed. I think E4 and alike are in that clique - however, only until their current contract with sky ruins out for the EPG. Then they will be part of the BBC/ITV freesat group.

    guv;3165344

    Which is precisely what I said in post 6 - but got corrected on!:thinking:



    All I corrected you on is the channels you get without a card are just known as FTA and will not include all those available under the FTV (FreeSat) badge, which is completely correct!

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    Xb0xGuru;3165341

    so back to your original statement, you DO still need a viewing card for … so back to your original statement, you DO still need a viewing card for all the specified FTV (FreeSat) channels.



    I agree. Except its not called freesat! I would imagine its now a registered trademark for the BBC/ITV now.

    Do you know what channels that actually are soft encypted? Not that many, I know - and will get fewer once those Channel 4 obligations are fulfilled. There probably is a listing somewhere - but its only the use of the physical name "freesat" I was picking up on.

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    Xb0xGuru;3165362

    All I corrected you on is the channels you get without a card are just … All I corrected you on is the channels you get without a card are just known as FTA and will not include all those available under the FTV (FreeSat) badge, which is completely correct!



    Then we agree to differ! :thumbsup:

    I'm not arguing that sky has FTA channels that need a viewing card. But those unencrypted channels that the sky box picks up is called freesat and is nothing to do with sky.

    guv;3165389

    Then we agree to differ! :thumbsup:I'm not arguing that sky has FTA … Then we agree to differ! :thumbsup:I'm not arguing that sky has FTA channels that need a viewing card. But those unencrypted channels that the sky box picks up is called freesat and is nothing to do with sky.



    No, that's not right!

    Free to air is unencrypted.

    Free to view (FreeSat) is encrypted and needs a card!!

    Look - check this page:

    satcure.co.uk/tec…htm

    :lol:

    Does it matter? ;-)

    Syzable;3165471

    :lol:Does it matter? ;-)



    Probably not as much time and effort's been spent on this thread! :-D

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    Xb0xGuru;3165433

    No, that's not right!Free to air is unencrypted.Free to view (FreeSat) is … No, that's not right!Free to air is unencrypted.Free to view (FreeSat) is encrypted and needs a card!!Look - check this page:http://www.satcure.co.uk/tech/freeview.htm



    OK transpose FTA with FTV.... I know what you are saying here. These are the channels you are subscribing as being called freesat. Its not what they are called. The only channels that is in this list according to your link, is Sky3, Ch5 and Ch4. This is what Ch4 and Ch5 have to say on your definition (also in your link.)

    WARNING! CH4 and FIVE insist on calling their broadcasts "Free To Air" even though they are encrypted!

    It also seems reading futher, that its now only Sky3 thats soft encrypted. Is it any wonder they want to plonk that with the rest and call it "sky freesat". All it means is you are using a sky box to receive a third party service.

    Freesat however is NOT FTV soft encypted and does not need a card. Freesat is a 100% FTA service that sky have tried to sell on as their own and basically nicking the third part name. Lets face it, they wouldnt get very far with only one channel (sky 3) being called a package! Its just a marketing ploy by sky to confuse people into believing its sky thats providing the service. The truth is, the only connection with sky is the fact you are using a sky box as a receiver.

    This is the ]freesat service.

    Anyway... nuff said on this. Dont want to get into an argument. If you still disagree, we'll leave it at that and no problem. :thumbsup:

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    Syzable;3165471

    :lol:Does it matter? ;-)



    Nope not really. However its not heated - and just an exchange of opinions. Hell this doesnt belong in Misc!!! :w00t::w00t::p

    guv;3165601

    OK transpose FTA with FTV.... I know what you are saying here. These are … OK transpose FTA with FTV.... I know what you are saying here. These are the channels you are subscribing as being called freesat. Its not what they are called. The only channels that is in this list according to your link, is Sky3, Ch5 and Ch4. This is what Ch4 and Ch5 have to say on your definition (also in your link.)WARNING! CH4 and FIVE insist on calling their broadcasts "Free To Air" even though they are encrypted! It also seems reading futher, that its now only Sky3 thats soft encrypted. Is it any wonder they want to plonk that with the rest and call it "sky freesat". All it means is you are using a sky box to receive a third party service.Freesat however is NOT FTV soft encypted and does not need a card. Freesat is a 100% FTA service that sky have tried to sell on as their own and basically nicking the third part name. Lets face it, they wouldnt get very far with only one channel (sky 3) being called a package! Its just a marketing ploy by sky to confuse people into believing its sky thats providing the service. The truth is, the only connection with sky is the fact you are using a sky box as a receiver.This is the ]freesat service.Anyway... nuff said on this. Dont want to get into an argument. If you still disagree, we'll leave it at that and no problem. :thumbsup:



    Agreed - moving on.....:thumbsup::thumbsup:

    If you have the Pace PVR2 version of the s*y+ box, I have read that there is a way to beat the system and make the recording facility available without a subscription
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