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    Does using a 3g phone as a 3g modem cost more than using a 3g usb modem?

    Was in Carphone Warehouse the other day with my dad and the assistant said that if you use a 3g phone as a 3g modem then it costs more than using the usb modem that they have started selling recently. I explained to the guy that it's doing exactly the same thing, so using the same sim card will cost the same amount. For the price of those things you're better off getting a phone that you can use the phone/text/camera/internet browsing features of rather than just using it as a modem.

    I think the guy was just trying to sell a usb modem that they obviously make a fair bit of profit on. Trying to find some sort of proof to backup my argument.

    Thanks!

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    I don't think your arguement is that simple.

    Until recently, for £5 a month, I had unlimited evening and weekend mobile internet usage. So, if I was using it just for evenings and weekends via the mobile it would work out cheaper to use my mobile.

    Likewise, different tariffs at different times charge different things. I would say from my PAYG internet modem it will probably work out in the long run cheaper to use a USB modem though...

    I know what you meant. But, I just didn't think it was the same cost. Your paying for per MB cost when you hook up your phone to your lappy to get the internet, whereas these modems are tied to a 3G contract which should work out cheaper for you...

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    highguyuk;1634402

    I know what you meant. But, I just didn't think it was the same cost. … I know what you meant. But, I just didn't think it was the same cost. Your paying for per MB cost when you hook up your phone to your lappy to get the internet, whereas these modems are tied to a 3G contract which should work out cheaper for you...



    You have to put a sim into the 3g modems same as you would for the phone. If one's on a contract and the other's payg then there would be a difference, but if they're both on the same tariff then the cost would be the same.

    You can get £1 a day from Orange and T-Mobile and £5/month from "3", same sim card in both solutions would cost the same.

    I see the point your making. You could take your SIM card out of the modem and put it into your phone and vice versa and it costs you the same.

    However, these internet moby deals are different because they are offering you a different tariff. Such as £15 pm 3GB usage, which your mobile phone SIM card does not offer you? Or does it?

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    highguyuk;1634484

    I see the point your making. You could take your SIM card out of the … I see the point your making. You could take your SIM card out of the modem and put it into your phone and vice versa and it costs you the same.However, these internet moby deals are different because they are offering you a different tariff. Such as £15 pm 3GB usage, which your mobile phone SIM card does not offer you? Or does it?



    £5 a month from "3" or £1 a day from t-mobile or Orange.

    Edit - You could buy the usb modem without a contract anyway so you'd have to put a payg sim in it.

    Where you getting this £5 a month from?

    The answer depends on the tariff. If you are going to use the modem on the same contract as your phone then no the charges are the same.

    But some networks offer different deals when taking out a modem, so you get more free MB per £, but this then does not come with free calls, texts etc.

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    Trauts78;1634955

    The answer depends on the tariff.



    Exactly! He was trying to tell me that because you're using the phone as a 3g modem instead of the usb modem it'd cost much more when using the same sim cards/tariff.

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    highguyuk;1634562

    Where you getting this £5 a month from?



    three.co.uk/per…123

    My mate has this on his payg phone and has had for several months now. He uses it all the time to browse the net with his phone as a modem for his laptop.

    Benjimoron;1635018

    http://www.three.co.uk/personal/price_plans_/add_ons_/detail.omp?cid=1177421725123My mate has this on his payg phone and has had for several months now. He uses it all the time to browse the net with his phone as a modem for his laptop.



    Read the small print.

    quote from the page you just posted

    * Unlimited data usage is subject to a fair use policy of 1GB per month. It does not include using your mobile as a modem. Subscription of £5.00 per billing month.


    This is for browsing on the handset

    But as you say, if you take a data only sim card and put it in a three handset, can you then use it as a modem? Don't know - ask three.....

    EliTom

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    elitom;1635080

    Read the small print.quote from the page you just posted * Unlimited data … Read the small print.quote from the page you just posted * Unlimited data usage is subject to a fair use policy of 1GB per month. It does not include using your mobile as a modem. Subscription of £5.00 per billing month.This is for browsing on the handsetBut as you say, if you take a data only sim card and put it in a three handset, can you then use it as a modem? Don't know - ask three.....EliTom




    Read my post!!!

    Like I said my mate has been using it for months without a problem. Doesn't mean it'll stay that way forever obviously but I was asked to provide a link to the £5 a month offer that "3" do and I did.

    Benjimoron;1635116

    Read my post!!!Like I said my mate has been using it for months without a … Read my post!!!Like I said my mate has been using it for months without a problem. Doesn't mean it'll stay that way forever obviously but I was asked to provide a link to the £5 a month offer that "3" do and I did.



    So to confirm - your mate is getting 1GB of data / month at 3g speeds (i.e. 3.6k) using a normal sim card (mins and texts) for £5 over and above the normal payg rate, and he using this data allowance on a laptop via the handset as a modem.

    If so then this is a good deal!

    What handset is said mate using?

    Still not sure if a normal data only sim will work.

    Someone want to try it?

    EliTom

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    elitom;1635183

    So to confirm - your mate is getting 1GB of data / month at 3g speeds … So to confirm - your mate is getting 1GB of data / month at 3g speeds (i.e. 3.6k) using a normal sim card (mins and texts) for £5 over and above the normal payg rate, and he using this data allowance on a laptop via the handset as a modem.If so then this is a good deal!EliTom



    Yep, he's paying £5 a month (he doesn't use it for calls as I gave him a spare sim from a 12 months free deal) on a standard 3 sim meant to be used for calls etc. He uses it quite a bit on his Nokia E61 but he also uses it on his laptop using the E61 as a 3g modem. I think he's gone over the 1gb but I'm not sure to be honest. He's tried several different networks and has settled on 3 being the best value.

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    I use my phone as a modem connected to my laptop on £7.50 a month web'n'walk. It is supposed to be another fiver to do this. However, the phone (HTC Kaiser) uses "share internet connection". ie it allows the data to flow. Not sure if thats the same as using as a modem or not - but it works and my data traffic is just showing up as "web".

    I'm on the £5 a month deal from 3. Has anyone got their Nokia to work as as modem? I''ve been trying to get my 6120 working. Can get it talking to the computer no probs but can't seem to connect to the network...

    I've tried a few different modem scripts using OSX 10.5 on a Macbook Pro but just cant get it to work.

    Any ideas?

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    paolo;1635763

    I'm on the £5 a month deal from 3. Has anyone got their Nokia to work as … I'm on the £5 a month deal from 3. Has anyone got their Nokia to work as as modem? I''ve been trying to get my 6120 working. Can get it talking to the computer no probs but can't seem to connect to the network...I've tried a few different modem scripts using OSX 10.5 on a Macbook Pro but just cant get it to work.Any ideas?



    Not sure to be honest, I've tried on my xda exec but I think it doesn't work as I have to use bluetooth as the usb connection is broken.

    My mate's E61 worked easily I think, with usb cable.

    I can connect to the laptop using both USB and Bluetooth but just cant connect to the network. Would be great if I could as the 6120 supports HSDPA

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    paolo;1640150

    I can connect to the laptop using both USB and Bluetooth but just cant … I can connect to the laptop using both USB and Bluetooth but just cant connect to the network. Would be great if I could as the 6120 supports HSDPA



    are you using the nokia suite?

    nokia.co.uk/A46…250

    Although I'm on a 1GB limit I'm guessing Three don't let you connect using your phone as a modem without upgrading to their broadband service

    PC suite not available for the Mac - but I have tried it using XP in Parallels. Same again - can connect no problem but there's no data flowing.

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    paolo;1643814

    Although I'm on a 1GB limit I'm guessing Three don't let you connect … Although I'm on a 1GB limit I'm guessing Three don't let you connect using your phone as a modem without upgrading to their broadband servicePC suite not available for the Mac - but I have tried it using XP in Parallels. Same again - can connect no problem but there's no data flowing.



    Not sure then, my mate uses the £5 a month service from "3" and he can connect to it fine through his E61. Maybe it's the 6120 that's the problem? Not sure about mac to be honest but I saw something about a mac alternative for data suite, have you seached google for one?

    I've got XP on my Mac so that's not the issue. I can connect through PC Suite using XP and Network Connections on the Mac.

    In theory all you need is the APN - three.co.uk - and the access number - *99# - no username and no password.

    This does actually work but I just cant get any traffic through the connection

    Would be good to have it but it's really not that important. Just wondering if anyone had it up and running on a 6120.

    Thanks for the comments tho

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    paolo;1645556

    I've got XP on my Mac so that's not the issue. I can connect through PC … I've got XP on my Mac so that's not the issue. I can connect through PC Suite using XP and Network Connections on the Mac.In theory all you need is the APN - three.co.uk - and the access number - *99# - no username and no password.This does actually work but I just cant get any traffic through the connectionWould be good to have it but it's really not that important. Just wondering if anyone had it up and running on a 6120.Thanks for the comments tho



    Are you sure about the username and password?

    According to an ebay seller the £5 a month allows you to:

    · WEB BROWSING OF ENTIRE INTERNET ON YOUR PC/LAPTOP.
    · VIEW EMAIL VIA WEBMAIL ONLY
    3 do not permit use of this service to provide for peer to peer file sharing, internet phone calls, POP3/IMAP or instant messaging. On Web Internet Daily, Web Internet Weekly or Web Internet Monthly. If found doing so your account will be closed.

    Whereas £10 gives you (full mobile broadband):

    SURF THE ENTIRE INTERNET ON YOUR PC/LAPTOP.

    · DOWNLOAD MUSIC, PHOTOS, SOFTWARE, ETC
    · UPLOAD MUSIC, PHOTOS, SOFTWARE, ETC
    · PLAY ONLINE GAMES
    · WATCH TV ONLINE
    · LISTEN TO ONLINE RADIO
    · INSTANT MESSAGING
    · SKYPE CALLS & CHAT
    · INTERNET PHONE CALLS
    · PEER TO PEER FILE SHARING
    · SEND AND RECIVE EMAIL VIA WEBMAIL, POP3, IMAP

    The £5 a month definitely works on a USB broadband mobile modem - I use it!

    It also works on my Samsung u700

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    Benjimoron;1645565

    Are you sure about the username and password?



    three.co.uk/per…omp

    Looks like you're right, lots of info there tho that might help.

    Good info Benjimoron. Looks like you definitely need to sign up to the £10 package to get access -

    http://kite.seriouslyinternet.com/1.jpg
    http://kite.seriouslyinternet.com/2.jpg

    £5 Internet Monthly Add-On works fine for me.

    paolo;1649755

    Good info Benjimoron. Looks like you definitely need to sign up to the … Good info Benjimoron. Looks like you definitely need to sign up to the £10 package to get access -

    Internet Monthly Add-on is just £5 for a month "fair usage" - works for me - payg using hsdpa device connected to a PC.
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