Driving lessons any advice?

Hi everyone, i am hoping for some great advice from you guys (i have had in the past, my pirate party was a great success!)
I have had 18 or so hours of lessons from a local lady instructor, doing pretty well, just slow, however she seems to be working les & less, and we are struggling to find agreeable times, i have explained to her i may need to find another instuctor, as she does not work sundays, and with 3 kids this would be the best day for me, she was fine about this. Now my problem is who to go with next?, her lessons are £19 per hour, do i go with another small business, or someone like the AA? what have others found, i dont know if some instructors kind of string it out? and a big company wouldnt?, does it make much difference a lady or male instructor?, not sure what to do, i have 3 boys under 5, 2 will be at school on 10th sept, which will mean 6 x 20 mins walking per day for me & bubba, and our car is sat on our drive (hubby decided to use his bike to get fit & save petrol) arghhh! any advice?, Thank you, Karen

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18 lessons seems alot, had she giving u any indication on how far off the test u are.

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Go with someone who is reputable and who you are comfortable with.

AA or BSM etc

go for a man

I passed in 18. but my instructor said the average is your age and then half again! i was 18 at the time so from his theory i should have had 27

i am now going to start driving, is AA the best

most folk i know booked there test after 10 lessons and then had about a 6 week waiting time to sit it

OnTheBallCity;2437259

i am now going to start driving, is AA the best



we cant really judge it cos all driving instructors are different

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leeroy;2437251

I passed in 18. but my instructor said the average is your age and then … I passed in 18. but my instructor said the average is your age and then half again! i was 18 at the time so from his theory i should have had 27



i find it hard to believe you passe d in 18 lessons.. however you get fast learners and slow learners i guess

Jerry786;2437278

i find it hard to believe you passe d in 18 lessons.. however you get … i find it hard to believe you passe d in 18 lessons.. however you get fast learners and slow learners i guess



you could pass in 18 easy, if you go out driving with parent/friend you can get allot of practise that way

Jerry786;2437278

i find it hard to believe you passe d in 18 lessons.. however you get … i find it hard to believe you passe d in 18 lessons.. however you get fast learners and slow learners i guess



This was before all the theory tests etc etc. talking 1997 when i passed, Saying that i havent drove for a few yrs now so i guess i would fail now :-D

as above the say one for each year of your age the younger you are the more you are likely to pick up instruction, although it does depend on the person. I found independent instructors were the best as my sisters both went with bsm and were treated a bit like a conveyer belt there words not mine lol. within the next year the least you can take in lessons could be 75, thats what there trying to push through all the major companies.

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bigbob909;2437305

you could pass in 18 easy, if you go out driving with parent/friend you … you could pass in 18 easy, if you go out driving with parent/friend you can get allot of practise that way



yeah, but not everyone have the resources to do so

my wife went with the aa, she passed her test in no time, imo the local independant driving schools seem to drag things out for the money, it might be a bit cheeper with a local firm but you pay more in the long run. also enquire about pass rates :thumbsup:

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leeroy;2437307

This was before all the theory tests etc etc. talking 1997 when i passed, … This was before all the theory tests etc etc. talking 1997 when i passed, Saying that i havent drove for a few yrs now so i guess i would fail now :-D



ahhh :thumbsup: lucky you.

My Lessons were 12 pound in 1997. Not sure how much they cost now, also there is tghe cost of Theory tests

OP. i would go with an Independant instructor,

If you do decide to go with someone like BSM don't let them talk you into any of the extra junk they sell. The 'simulator' was a joke (terrible arcade type game) and the software disc was useless. Buy the disc you can get for a tenner from WH-Smiths that has the theory questions and hazard tests if you need it.

The instructor was great but had issues with BSM's practices, I ended up moving to a new company with him to keep my lessons consistent. So BSM are good for lessons but try to get you to buy a lot of extra usless ****.

Where are you based?

i had a driving course in work, 3 students 3 weeks, bish bash bosh passed my test saved me a fortune

I would go independent but then my ex is an independent driving instructor! One thing i have learnt is to make sure that whoever you go with is an ADI meaning that have passed all their exams, they have a green badge displayed in the car. If they are a PDI with a pink badge they still have thier final exam to take.
When you have found one you are interested in phone the DSA and ask them the driving instructor's pass rate and also thier grade. All instructors are assessed regularly (like a mini test where they are observed giving a lesson) and they are graded on thier instruction, can't remember how the grades work but the DSA will be able to tell you. Remember that pass rates aren't always a good indication cos you have to take into account nervous learners etc., but the grading is a good indication of how the instructor is in lessons.
Hope this helps.

rachs160971;2437492

I would go independent but then my ex is an independent driving … I would go independent but then my ex is an independent driving instructor! One thing i have learnt is to make sure that whoever you go with is an ADI meaning that have passed all their exams, they have a green badge displayed in the car. If they are a PDI with a pink badge they still have thier final exam to take.When you have found one you are interested in phone the DSA and ask them the driving instructor's pass rate and also thier grade. All instructors are assessed regularly (like a mini test where they are observed giving a lesson) and they are graded on thier instruction, can't remember how the grades work but the DSA will be able to tell you. Remember that pass rates aren't always a good indication cos you have to take into account nervous learners etc., but the grading is a good indication of how the instructor is in lessons.Hope this helps.

surley the pass rate is a good indicator as it tells the % of people that have passed from his/her tuition as for grading anyone can do things by the book if they know they are being watched

For all learners out there, there are new safety questions as part of the practical test from 1 July 2008, some details here:

dsa.gov.uk/For…621

The Driving Instructors Association website is also quite good for info and you can search for a local instructor:

driving.org/sea…tml

Good Luck - such a stressful (& expensive) business, learning to drive!

rachs160971;2437492

I would go independent but then my ex is an independent driving … I would go independent but then my ex is an independent driving instructor! One thing i have learnt is to make sure that whoever you go with is an ADI meaning that have passed all their exams, they have a green badge displayed in the car. If they are a PDI with a pink badge they still have thier final exam to take.When you have found one you are interested in phone the DSA and ask them the driving instructor's pass rate and also thier grade. All instructors are assessed regularly (like a mini test where they are observed giving a lesson) and they are graded on thier instruction, can't remember how the grades work but the DSA will be able to tell you. Remember that pass rates aren't always a good indication cos you have to take into account nervous learners etc., but the grading is a good indication of how the instructor is in lessons.Hope this helps.



Problem with independants is you can never be sure of the level of service as most people don't know that you can phone the DSA. My cousin tried a local independant and on his first lesson he found himself cluelessly driving around local roads (badly) as the instructor chatted away on a mobile. :roll:

I've just started driving lessons with an independant. she's very good and highly recommended although this may not be the case for every independant or large company for that matter. ask around a few people and see who they used and ask for their experiences.

I'd go for a local independant, who needs to continue to work hard and attract customers based on good reputation. Do your research, which by the sounds of it you didnt do full last time or else you would have chosen someone who could work Sundays!

where abouts are you situated?

dandoc2;2438048

where abouts are you situated?



That's what I wanted to know, my dad is a driving instructor in Bedford and he got me through mine in 13 lessons. He has a full time job and only teaches as a hobby so he doesn't need or want to drag it out.

I know I sound bias but he really is a good instructor.

natversion1;2438062

That's what I wanted to know, my dad is a driving instructor in Bedford … That's what I wanted to know, my dad is a driving instructor in Bedford and he got me through mine in 13 lessons. He has a full time job and only teaches as a hobby so he doesn't need or want to drag it out.I know I sound bias but he really is a good instructor.



I had 20 lessons in a manual with an instructor that sucked and i quit as tbh i couldnt work the clutch
anyways that was 2007 may
restarted my driving lessons (in an auto mind you) in april this year and well ive got ym test next week and only had 20 lessons but the company im with is called mini evolution really good

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wolftan;2437205

18 lessons seems alot, had she giving u any indication on how far off the … 18 lessons seems alot, had she giving u any indication on how far off the test u are.

Not really, but i dont feel like im anywhere near...

leeroy;2437251

I passed in 18. but my instructor said the average is your age and then … I passed in 18. but my instructor said the average is your age and then half again! i was 18 at the time so from his theory i should have had 27


I am 30 on sunday, 45 lessons?, arghhhh! may quit now!
natversion1;2437435

Where are you based?


Billingham:-D

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highguyuk;2437985

I'd go for a local independant, who needs to continue to work hard and … I'd go for a local independant, who needs to continue to work hard and attract customers based on good reputation. Do your research, which by the sounds of it you didnt do full last time or else you would have chosen someone who could work Sundays!



I choose her because i had seen her at the school and she looked really nice & friendly:oops:

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natversion1;2438062

That's what I wanted to know, my dad is a driving instructor in Bedford … That's what I wanted to know, my dad is a driving instructor in Bedford and he got me through mine in 13 lessons. He has a full time job and only teaches as a hobby so he doesn't need or want to drag it out.I know I sound bias but he really is a good instructor.



Billingham is near Middlesbrough, nevermind, 13 lessons, WOW!:roll:

ding;2437548

surley the pass rate is a good indicator as it tells the % of people that … surley the pass rate is a good indicator as it tells the % of people that have passed from his/her tuition as for grading anyone can do things by the book if they know they are being watched



Yes but the students can choose to book a test whenever they want, sometimes when they think they are ready despite the instructor telling them otherwise. Also, the instructor can choose to take his badge out of the car if they think that the student may fail so that it won't register against thier records as a fail. In my opinion the pass rate can be easily manipulated if someone wanted to do so.

dandoc2;2438080

I had 20 lessons in a manual with an instructor that sucked and i quit as … I had 20 lessons in a manual with an instructor that sucked and i quit as tbh i couldnt work the clutch anyways that was 2007 may restarted my driving lessons (in an auto mind you) in april this year and well ive got ym test next week and only had 20 lessons but the company im with is called mini evolution really good



I thought about an Auto but you can't drive a manual with that so went for the manual. A good instructor is all anyone really needs :thumbsup:

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Has anyone else had an instructor that relies a lot on reference points?, mine seems to bombard me with them, there were about 6 for parallel parking, I realise they are important, but i think that when i am in different cars they will change anyway? I think i will phone the DSA about her pass levels, maybe she can not fit me in because she has soooo many unpassed learners? great advice coming at me!

karen3boysxxx;2438560

Has anyone else had an instructor that relies a lot on reference points?, … Has anyone else had an instructor that relies a lot on reference points?, mine seems to bombard me with them, there were about 6 for parallel parking, I realise they are important, but i think that when i am in different cars they will change anyway? I think i will phone the DSA about her pass levels, maybe she can not fit me in because she has soooo many unpassed learners? great advice coming at me!



My instructor used to stick blu tac at points on the window to give me a point of reference when doing three point turns and such (where a kerb should be ect). After I had gotten used to the cars placement he removed them so I could work from memory. I switched from a Ford to a Merc A class part way through my lessons and found it easy to adapt.

after trying to learn to drive when i was 18 i gave up i had 3 different instructors all useless then just b4 xmas last year i booked up a bulk load of lesson with another instructor who told me to book my test the same day and passed the 28th jan 2008

as with everything in life there is good and bad if your feel theres something not right then its time to find a new one, imho big companies are rubbish but thats my own opinion private ones are the best good luck

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Ungreat;2444730

My instructor used to stick blu tac at points on the window to give me a … My instructor used to stick blu tac at points on the window to give me a point of reference when doing three point turns and such (where a kerb should be ect). After I had gotten used to the cars placement he removed them so I could work from memory. I switched from an Ford to a Merc A class part way through my lessons and found it easy to adapt.



I think i'll suggest that to her, i still will see her everyday at the school! maybe the blu tak would have made it easier! memory is hard to use at first when you have sooo much else you are just getting the hang of.

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Thank you TWINKS for the above forum, i will be a regular now, looks great, Thanks,
Thank you to everyone for your help, i hope i have repped all....................xkaren
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