Found 29th Mar 2008
I'm confused whether or not this is genuine or a scammer...

emails sent and received:

Hi fwibble1979,I am the seller of the Microsoft Xbox Console - item # xxx xxx xxx xxx, and I've just been contacted by the eBay staff who informed me that the winner of this item got rejected due to security reasons (either failed to follow through on the purchase commitment or outright refused to do so). Your last auctioned bid of GBP 20.00 prior to being outbided is taken into consideration as eBay policy automatically proclaims you to be the winner by default. Nevertheless,I need your agreement on this so I may contact eBay to confirm your winning position otherwise I'll relist the item. If you're interested please confirm by forwarding this message to e-mail and include your name, address and ebay ID. Thank you...

My reply...

due to security issues please email me through ebay, via contact member button... this email address that this message was sent to isn't the address that is stored on my ebay account, please reply as soon as possible, other wise i will regard this email as spam


next reply from "seller"...

The deal will go strictly according to eBay's rules and policy regarding to this second chance offer- to start the official transaction, I need to know your details:
* your complete name
* your complete shipping address
As soon as I have them I'll start the official procedure, and eBay will notify you about this. You'll also receive important guidelines + instructions from them (please go through them exactly).
Looking forward to hearing from you.

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Banned

wouldnt touch them, how did they get your email address, all second offers go direct to your ebay account

Contact ebay they will let you know if its ok,it looks dodgy,wouldnt chance it

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sassie;1799672

wouldnt touch them, how did they get your email address, all second … wouldnt touch them, how did they get your email address, all second offers go direct to your ebay account



thats why i'm curious i've sent them yet another email basically saying that if roles were reversed that they would want their private details to be secure, and asked them to contact me through ask member link (which i provided in the email)

The seller does NOT need your name and address UNTILL you have paid, not before, and certainly doesn't need them to start a procedure.
Also a buyer not paying is nothing to do with security. Ebay would not make you the winning bidder by default, all they would do is refund any fees if the seller raised a dispute.
If any of this was true you would have received a second chance offer from the seller (through ebay).

This is bllsh**t. Report the scum to ebay.

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ettam123;1799674

Contact ebay they will let you know if its ok,it looks dodgy,wouldnt … Contact ebay they will let you know if its ok,it looks dodgy,wouldnt chance it



how do i contact them... I don't have the "sellers" id... this person may be posing as the seller, the other odd thing is my highest bid was £20, the item went for £51 and there were a few other bidders above me.

might actually try contact the seller of the item. see if things weigh up a little more

If they offer an official 2nd chance offer, it will be just a normal sale; they don't need info prior to completion much like any other "normal" ebay transaction.
Sounds dodgy, like some shill bidding has been going on.....i'd walk away, report/forward the contact to ebay and move onto the next auction. Certainly wouldn't even reply to anymore contact just to be on the ultra safe side......

I am guessing they make a clone eBay page with your details on that you send them. So it looks identical to eBay's page, even down to displaying what you would think is secure information (but it isn't because they just asked you in an email for it). Basically then it will ask you to log-in, either to eBay or Paypal so they can rip-off your password and steal your account.

You must have the sellers ID from the auction, surely?

barge pole springs to mind

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PhearFactor;1799702

I am guessing they make a clone eBay page with your details on that you … I am guessing they make a clone eBay page with your details on that you send them. So it looks identical to eBay's page, even down to displaying what you would think is secure information (but it isn't because they just asked you in an email for it). Basically then it will ask you to log-in, either to eBay or Paypal so they can rip-off your password and steal your account.



I've seen many an ebay scam before, where everything looks very ebay like... but this is just an email with no links, asking for my info, I'm not going to give them any unless they go through the correct channels.

I can't see them doing that, but now that I've been advised not to reply to emails, I think i will adhere to that. ruddy scammers!

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surfer90;1799711

barge pole springs to mind



Peter Kay

Who has a Barge Pole ay?

ebay offer you a second chance but it has to be instigated by the seller so check your account to see if you get offered a second chance.
if this is an email, check your account first...

the thing to remeber is if Ebay need to contact you, they do it through 'myebay' unless they feel your account has been violated.

Basically they have seen your ID bidding on that item. Google searched "fwibble1979" which brings up a list of everything, or mostly everything on the web relating to you/that name. One of those pages may contain the email address they are sending emails to. How else do you think they got your email?

I suggest you make your myspace account and any other accounts you have relating to fwibble1979 or fwibble private as soon as possible.

Hello, Am advising you not to contact them any more, they are really stammers. Good luck
:thumbsup:

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PhearFactor;1799745

Basically they have seen your ID bidding on that item. Google searched … Basically they have seen your ID bidding on that item. Google searched "fwibble1979" which brings up a list of everything, or mostly everything on the web relating to you/that name. One of those pages may contain the email address they are sending emails to. How else do you think they got your email? I suggest you make your myspace account and any other accounts you have relating to fwibble1979 or fwibble private as soon as possible.



been trying to delete my myspace account, forgot my password though... asked for a reminder which was never sent to me... but thanks for the advice

as you don't need to give your info unless you paid for, even though, seller will get your inf through your payment inf.

Peter Kay:Who has a Barge Pole ay?



who's got a 10 foot barge pole?!

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surfer90;1799776

who's got a 10 foot barge pole?!



aye that'll be the one lol

left rep to those who offered advice :thumbsup:

Because you’ve responded to their enquiry, you’ve confirmed to them your email address is a working one. You can expect to get other suspect emails over the coming months.

If it isn’t too much trouble for you, I would consider getting a new email address.

hmm if hes asking for your address and what not, if you paid he'd get it via paypal anyway so why would he even ask? avoid!

this is a scam.
check your ebay account for any genuine second chance offers.
it should have an expiry.

Although you cannot get rid of your myspace account you could just change your ebay id to something that doesn't relate in any way to your forum/myspace/etc accounts. Although ebay does track the history of your ID's it creates more work for the scammers, so they might not bother.

This commonly occurs when someone uses helloworld as their ebay username but also has [email protected]/yahoo.com and so on. They will just spam out emails to that username hoping one hits home. Try to keep every ID you use on every website different so you cannot be tracked so easily. Or use one ID for forums and another for places like eBay, and another for myspace/facebook.

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ssabres;1799805

Because you’ve responded to their enquiry, you’ve confirmed to them your e … Because you’ve responded to their enquiry, you’ve confirmed to them your email address is a working one. You can expect to get other suspect emails over the coming months.If it isn’t too much trouble for you, I would consider getting a new email address.



the email address they have sent to isn't one i use much anyway, and i've clicked the scammers address as spam

fwibble;1799824

the email address they have sent to isn't one i use much anyway, and i've … the email address they have sent to isn't one i use much anyway, and i've clicked the scammers address as spam



They wil contact you via multiple email addresses. Just keep an eye out for unsolicited emails.

Hi
I am a police officer and can confirm for you that this is definitely a scam. please inform ebay, you may also be able to report them it as a phishing scam

For information, the place to report phishing/email scams to ebay is:
pages.ebay.co.uk/hel…tml

alternatively it can be found in the 'safety centre' link in the left column of 'my ebay' under 'related links'
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